What I predicted continues to be true in these current assessments, that some people will prefer one over the other, which is fine. But what strikes me as even more interesting is that certain people are preferring either X over Y or Y over X for absolutely opposite reasons. Study the posts here (after you vote, please) and you'll find that one person is saying that a certain letter is "brighter" than a certain other while others are saying EXACTLY the opposite! Now what does that mean?
a) try to make your tests blind. Prove that you're consistent!
b) your speaker system is exagerrating some frequency range or other which one letter limiter is doing better or worse at than another. Very interesting, eh?
If a is false (non-blind), how accurate will our subjective findings be? Supposedly a bunch of good, experienced mastering engineers will tend to prefer much the same thing. That's what I heard somewhere.
If b is true (that people's reactions to which limiter they prefer are very speaker/room and reproduction-dependent: then that means the results are going to be random, perhaps, and NEITHER limiter wins.
So, it is quite strange how you can be so sure of your results as well as so sure of the magnitude of the differences.
My assistant likens the differences as being, say, about one order of magnitude greater than the "dither wars". It's not quite that subtle, but that's what it is over here, and my reproduction system and room is extremely refined. You can hear extremely fine differences in here. I just think that some people tend to exagerrate the importance of extremely fine differences. I can see DC shrieking "pot calling kettle black"... right about now.
Anyway, hey, people---start voting! The more votes, the more "democratic" the results
. Vote for either "the lesser of two evils" or "the better sounding of the two". Either way is fine.
I think that Henrik was accusing me of liking compression, I couldn't quite get his English, excuse me.... "If only you knew me". If I could reduce this CD to 1990 levels I'd be more than happy to do so. Henrik, you're preaching to the choir.
The object of this demonstration is to find out which limiter damages the material the least. I think you'll find 9 out of 10 mastering engineers will agree that most times the limiter, the way that we tend to push it lately, clearly damages the material.
At the "only" 2-3 dB of limiting in use in this particular demo, what I notice first is a degradation of the stereo image, the "they are here" picture. But "big, gigantic difference", no way.
Hey, no one's said anything about the musical and other technical aspects of this sample... I'm quite shocked. Everyone here's so technical that you haven't noticed that this music presents some absolutely first-rate players in the Latin Music field? I'd also believe that the production, arrangements, recording and mixing are first rate, and modesty prevents me from saying more
BK
