Brent wrote on Mon, 08 November 2004 14:38 |
It blows me away that the same people that claim to be enlightened have not bothered to read the first and only text book used in the very first schools here in the US.
I am a republican, I did vote for Bush, but only because of the stance on abortion. Kerry talks out of his crack. He says that he has morals, is a Catholic, believes that birth starts at conception, but murder is ok?
If any of you doubt that abortion is "a mother's choice" and not murder, I will be happy to get you into see one in person the next time that you are out in CA. My brother is a doctor. We treat animals with better care. Also, ask yourself why that stupid bastard in CA is being charged for dumping his wife and unborn child into the lake? Is it only a child and murder if someone else does it?
I am not a freako republican that is afraid of things. That statement was most uneducated. That talk is what makes the democrats look like morons, which they all are not. I am for all of the government that was originally intended...protection from foriegn aggression, promotion of longevity/well being.
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I've read that book, and I disagree with your interpretation.
As far as murder ... Bush killed over 150 death row inmates in Texas, the most by a Governor ever in American history i believe.
And the War in Iraq is killing Innocent people all the time.
So how do you justify that to yourself?
I'll help you out ... ALL of Gods creation is a miracle, the birds, the bees, the Terrorists, the dead murderers and the babies: sexually abused as kids, emotionally abused by drunk fathers, Munchhausen by Proxy mothers and starving kids in Africa and in Ohio.
All of Gods creation is a miracle and YET there is death. There are all kinds of deaths that God brings on his own creation. Hurricanes, Tornadoes, starvation, traffic accidents. Any death man chooses is also Gods choice as he created everything and he forsaw the possibilities. Divination is all knowing and ALL ACCEPTING.
Then there are the deaths of the trees to make money for Republicans. The deforestation of 1/4 of the forests. And the death of the flowers defined by MAN as weeds in Suburban gardens, and the death of Cows for a steak dinner and the death of lettuce and corn for my table.
So it seems that not only does God allow death, he insists on it. And as we are created in Gods image we are put in the challenging position of having to choose as God chooses with each tornado ... which prisoners of horrible crimes die, and which ones live at our tax expense ... while we also choose which children live and which ones die.
So what does this mean? That man is evil because he chooses death in some instances?
My interpretation of the Bible says that man is challenged by God to be moral, he is not asked to be a dogmatic zombie.
So when I kill to eat I say thanks.
And when a Government kills a prisoner it does so at great lengths and it never laughs at the levity of it.
And when I accompany a woman to an abortion clinic, knowing she will have a lifetime of hardship if she goes, or keeps the baby, or gives it away ... I know that this is one of the decisions that is MOST like Gods decision to bring the tornado, or the famine, or the flood. Suffering brings us closer to God, and big moral decisions do too. This is Gods will, that we shold learn through challenges and suffering.
Making a decision about life and death is as close to God as we humans get, and as we are made in his image, it's certainly our place to do so. Although you're right, it would be easier to not have to think about it and just choose easy things like black or grey socks, public or private school for junior.
Catholics and many Christians do not have the character to make this decision, or the understanding of God to see it as properly theirs to make and learn from. At least Bush can make it in Texas with one human after another on death row, but he won't let women make it with their own eggs and fertilized eggs. Hypocrisy.
God wants us to take on the big things, and to respect life at ALL levels. You want to de-prioritize much of the life and elevate the sperm and egg beyond the rest of Nature.
This is human arrogance and moral cowardice ... not moral superiority.
Only if the decision for death is not respected and taken with the greatest care by the individual responsible is there an immoral act in play in the eyes of God.One might argue that the choice to invade secular Iraq and remove it's dictator and invoke 10s of thousands of innocent deaths was not necessary in the war against Islamofascists.
Gov. Bush laughing at the plea for her life from that psycho woman in Texas is one of those immoral moments for SURE.