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Title: Interesting concept...
Post by: Thomas W. Bethel on March 29, 2009, 07:49:15 am
http://www.soundops.com/multimastering.aspx
Title: Re: Interesting concept...
Post by: Rick O'neil on March 29, 2009, 08:09:06 am
makes perfect sense to me...not
"best out of three  mastering ?"

i have got to have a go at inventing a new  magic process to do something on the internet that nobody thought of first  
it just keeps looking  like free money to me Smile
Title: Re: Interesting concept...
Post by: Tomas Danko on March 29, 2009, 08:09:31 am
I sense a lack of confidence in the ME of choice, if the facility themselves need a "shoot-out".

I'm also wondering about the cohesive focus and quality across an album/project from one ME only as opposed to this model.

Doesn't this also mean that they are cutting their rates down to a third? Smile
Title: Re: Interesting concept...
Post by: bblackwood on March 29, 2009, 08:32:21 am
Tomas Danko wrote on Sun, 29 March 2009 07:09

I'm also wondering about the cohesive focus and quality across an album/project from one ME only as opposed to this model.

This was my first thought. Can't judge the method as I've not heard these results, but I'm fairly skeptical. Seems like more of a marketing ploy than a revolutionary idea.
Title: Re: Interesting concept...
Post by: Tomas Danko on March 29, 2009, 08:37:43 am
bblackwood wrote on Sun, 29 March 2009 13:32

Tomas Danko wrote on Sun, 29 March 2009 07:09

I'm also wondering about the cohesive focus and quality across an album/project from one ME only as opposed to this model.

This was my first thought. Can't judge the method as I've not heard these results, but I'm fairly skeptical. Seems like more of a marketing ploy than a revolutionary idea.


Perhaps they've gotten fed up with customers doing shoot-outs between mastering companies and are hoping to grab their business this way? Smile
Title: Re: Interesting concept...
Post by: compasspnt on March 29, 2009, 11:31:30 am
...the three best editions of your audio are selected for polishing...

I have not been "polishing" my already-mastered material.

Am I missing out on something?

Is there a secret special process that I do not know?

Help me out here...
Title: Re: Interesting concept...
Post by: Greg Reierson on March 29, 2009, 11:35:07 am
So now you get to choose between three guys who charge $15/track? Great!


GR
Title: Re: Interesting concept...
Post by: mcsnare on March 29, 2009, 11:50:48 am
Fascinating. Someone got a professional marketing expert to take a good look at online mastering and come up with something new. I'd guess that the company figures 3 choices would almost always eliminate major revisions, betting that at least one staff M.E. is gonna hit the nail on the head. Or at least confuse the client sufficiently to not ask for a revision! I'll bet that with the company's pay structure, it costs them less and increases their overall productivity to pay 3 M.E.'s to do one pass than the standard 1st pass and then revisions.

Dave
Title: Re: Interesting concept...
Post by: mcsnare on March 29, 2009, 11:53:14 am
Terry, the polishing is when you take a little bit of Rain-X and buff that ref. You don't do that?

Dave
Title: Re: Interesting concept...
Post by: MASSIVE Mastering on March 29, 2009, 12:37:03 pm
I thought it was a myth myself, but I recently used Pledge (Pledge Protection Plus, specifically) on my Harley and subsequently on my car.  

Wow.   Shocked

Better than showroom in around 3 minutes.

This?  I have no idea.
Title: Re: Interesting concept...
Post by: Thomas W. Bethel on March 29, 2009, 12:54:47 pm
Greg Reierson wrote on Sun, 29 March 2009 11:35

So now you get to choose between three guys who charge $15/track? Great!


GR



OR...

One guy with three different presets????
Title: Re: Interesting concept...
Post by: crna59 on March 29, 2009, 03:29:27 pm
MASSIVE Mastering wrote on Sun, 29 March 2009 11:37

This?  I have no idea.


How do you polish a turd????   You freeze it!!



Regards,
Title: Re: Interesting concept...
Post by: cass anawaty on March 29, 2009, 05:02:47 pm
They don't do "Emo"?  They'll never make it......
Title: Re: Interesting concept...
Post by: Andy Krehm on March 29, 2009, 05:05:17 pm
Thomas W. Bethel wrote on Sun, 29 March 2009 07:49

http://www.soundops.com/multimastering.aspx

If anyone bites on this service, especially at $99. per track, they haven't begun to do their due diligence!

No engineer credits, no gear list or studio pics. While these items don't tell the whole story, they will tell you most of it!
Title: Re: Interesting concept...
Post by: dcollins on March 29, 2009, 05:06:57 pm
compasspnt wrote on Sun, 29 March 2009 08:31

...the three best editions of your audio are selected for polishing...

I have not been "polishing" my already-mastered material.

Am I missing out on something?

Is there a secret special process that I do not know?

Help me out here...



"Let our experienced team of engineers help you finish your music,

and find out why, when it comes to audio mastering,

WE HAVE THE SRONGEST GAURANTEE OF ANY STUDIO."
Title: Re: Interesting concept...
Post by: JimK on March 29, 2009, 05:19:22 pm
And the weakest Spell-Checking!!
Title: Re: Interesting concept...
Post by: cass anawaty on March 29, 2009, 07:47:45 pm
dcollins wrote on Sun, 29 March 2009 22:06

compasspnt wrote on Sun, 29 March 2009 08:31

...the three best editions of your audio are selected for polishing...

I have not been "polishing" my already-mastered material.

Am I missing out on something?

Is there a secret special process that I do not know?

Help me out here...


WE HAVE THE SRONGEST GAURANTEE OF ANY STUDIO."


They'll be wearing skirts?
Title: Re: Interesting concept...
Post by: Darius van H on March 30, 2009, 02:38:04 am
Silly.
Title: Re: Interesting concept...
Post by: Andrew Hamilton on March 30, 2009, 06:22:34 am
The fact that they are supplying three versions of each track kind of means that they are not actually making a master of any.  Alas, the term, master, doesn't mean that it is (necessarily) a masterful recording.  But it does mean that "there can be only one."  (;







Andrew

 
Title: Re: Interesting concept...
Post by: joeaudio on March 30, 2009, 12:44:27 pm
I thought it was a myth myself, but I recently used Pledge (Pledge Protection Plus, specifically) on my Harley and subsequently on my car.  

Wow.   Shocked

Better than showroom in around 3 minutes.





Really?

Joe
Title: Re: Interesting concept...
Post by: Steffen on March 30, 2009, 01:09:04 pm
Too many cooks spoil the broth.
Title: Re: Interesting concept...
Post by: Waltz Mastering on March 30, 2009, 02:36:37 pm
My question for Thom:  Where/How do you find these mutated mastering sites?

TW

Title: Re: Interesting concept...
Post by: MASSIVE Mastering on March 30, 2009, 11:49:08 pm
joeaudio wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 11:44

I thought it was a myth myself, but I recently used Pledge (Pledge Protection Plus, specifically) on my Harley and subsequently on my car.  

Wow.   Shocked

Better than showroom in around 3 minutes.


Really?
Joe

Honest.  Amazing.  And the chrome...   Cool

PLEXUS is another one - And getting back to mastering (partially, anyway) if you have a "hazy" disc that you need to copy or extract from, a quick buff with some Plexus has saved my rear more than once.  It's like a miracle spray.  And it makes Plexiglas/acrylic  windshields (and the whole bike for that matter) look like wet glass.  Originally made for aircraft shields and used by the U.S. Military on all acrylic shields (aircraft, helmet, etc.).  
Title: Re: Interesting concept...
Post by: Thomas W. Bethel on March 31, 2009, 06:28:01 am
Waltz Mastering wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 14:36

My question for Thom:  Where/How do you find these mutated mastering sites?

TW





One of my clients showed it to me and asked, of course, if I could give them three different versions of each of their songs. I told then that if it were on the clock I could give them as many versions as they wanted. They decided to go with one version of each. Maybe the next time this client will go with the three for one operation. I just thought it was "interesting"
Title: Re: Interesting concept...
Post by: Kendrix on March 31, 2009, 12:19:48 pm
This brings the practice of delaying sonic decisions to a new level.  I thought mastering was the end of the road.

MultiMasering is to mastering as...
...endless fix it in the mix activities are to track it right and just set the levels.

The term "Masters of Indecision" comes to mind.

Next thing you know someone will offer a service that picks the best of those 3 mastering treatments for clients...  Or that continuously  morphs between them when you are stuck between two.

Why dont we just do a dozen masters and let folks vote on them via the internet?