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Title: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: studiojimi on January 15, 2008, 11:02:55 pm
http://gawker.com/5002269/the-cruise-indoctrination-video-sc ientology-tried-to-suppress
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: Barry Hufker on January 16, 2008, 12:12:15 am
Wow... talk about intense.  Talk about faith.  Talk about redundant.

That's a fascinating video.  And in some ways (although in many better ways) I think that's how St. Paul was.  I picture him as an all or nothing guy like Cruise.  The difference tho' is St. Paul had the Gospel and Tom Cruise has a cult.  But that intensity and drive is what it takes to really want to spread your belief.

And Tom has a scary laugh.  I worry about what he thinks is funny -- and why.
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: J.J. Blair on January 16, 2008, 12:22:02 am
The best quote in the comments:

"In all this crazy Tom Cruise hating business of the last couple of years, I have prevented myself from thinking he's totally batshit. This video. He's fucking batshit. But I bet some Opus Dei video by Clarence Thomas would be just as frightening."
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: rollmottle on January 16, 2008, 12:51:48 am
Started a thread on this lunacy earlier...

http://recforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/t/21244/9433/

Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: studiojimi on January 16, 2008, 12:56:20 am
and i thought we were boring in the huckster thread

cruise....goes around in circles and has such confidence that were are listening to him for reasons we are not
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: mgod on January 16, 2008, 10:30:29 am
Barry Hufker wrote on Tue, 15 January 2008 21:12

 The difference tho' is St. Paul had the Gospel and Tom Cruise has a cult.

That cult is probably bigger than Paul's when he started it, and during his lifetime.

Laugh now but L.Ron and Xemu may get you yet.

DS
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: Barry Hufker on January 16, 2008, 11:13:47 am
I'm not laughing because the late L.Ron Hubbard had one of the finest microphone collections on the planet.  Now that he's gone and it is part of the Church of Scientology, none of it will ever be mine.... poop.

Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: PRobb on January 16, 2008, 11:23:36 am
Barry Hufker wrote on Wed, 16 January 2008 00:12

The difference tho' is St. Paul had the Gospel and Tom Cruise has a cult.  

The difference is not that clear to me.
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: Rod Affleck on January 16, 2008, 11:34:54 am
At first I thought maybe he has Narcissistic Personality Disorder, but there's enough empathy in there to make me think that perhaps he's just incredibly deluded. And deeply indoctrinated.
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: studiojimi on January 16, 2008, 12:46:46 pm
evil robot wrote on Wed, 16 January 2008 08:34

At first I thought maybe he has Narcissistic Personality Disorder, but there's enough empathy in there to make me think that perhaps he's just incredibly deluded. And deeply indoctrinated.



obviousy

the cat ain't shit without a script!index.php/fa/7224/0/
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: mgod on January 16, 2008, 01:13:54 pm
Barry Hufker wrote on Wed, 16 January 2008 08:13

I'm not laughing because the late L.Ron Hubbard had one of the finest microphone collections on the planet.  Now that he's gone and it is part of the Church of Scientology, none of it will ever be mine.... poop.

Also a very big client of John Stephens. They know their sonic shit.

DS
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: ssltech on January 16, 2008, 01:31:16 pm
mgod wrote on Wed, 16 January 2008 10:30

Laugh now but L.Ron and Xemu may get you yet.

I think you may be a tiny bit confused, perhaps...

It's actually the rhythm that's gonna get you.

Keef
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: mgod on January 16, 2008, 01:49:20 pm
I still think litigating against critics is kid's play next to the Church's history. I live in the middle of Scientology Central and have known a few, and no one has ever said to me "Convert or Die." AND - no one has even tried to proselytize to me, which can't be said for at least half-a-dozen stripes of so-called "christianity". All of whom say they have the only answer, btw, and all of whom disagree with each other. Sometimes violently.

Laugh at Cruise all you want. The Pope and Pat Robertson are just as fervent and just as crazy. Huckabee too.

DS
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: aip on January 16, 2008, 02:39:45 pm
Here in Paris we have billboards with Nicole Kidman claiming to have rejuvenated her brain to the age of 24 years.
Let's let them both, and their cronies, keep rejuvenating until they forget how to speak about their crap religion started by the mediocre science fiction writer that probably only disappeared for tax reasons.
aip
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: J.J. Blair on January 16, 2008, 03:49:13 pm
mgod wrote on Wed, 16 January 2008 10:49

I still think litigating against critics is kid's play next to the Church's history. I live in the middle of Scientology Central and have known a few, and no one has ever said to me "Convert or Die." AND - no one has even tried to proselytize to me, which can't be said for at least half-a-dozen stripes of so-called "christianity". All of whom say they have the only answer, btw, and all of whom disagree with each other. Sometimes violently.

Laugh at Cruise all you want. The Pope and Pat Robertson are just as fervent and just as crazy. Huckabee too.


If nobody has proselytized to you, then you just haven't hung out with enough Sci-Tis.  The best is the Beverly Hills Play House, though.  That place has become such a Sci-Ti recruiting center (as well as the director's center for recruiting young actresses to his bed room) that Jeff Tambor left both the BHPH and the church.  When my wife was studying there, she had people try to physically drag her to Sci-Ti shit.
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: mgod on January 16, 2008, 04:25:49 pm
J.J. Blair wrote on Wed, 16 January 2008 12:49

 When my wife was studying there, she had people try to physically drag her to Sci-Ti shit.

Well, I don't have tits (yet...). Its Hollywood Jake.
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: Fibes on January 16, 2008, 05:25:06 pm
Is that his audition for Zoolander or the inspiration?
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: Harland on January 16, 2008, 06:16:46 pm
Barry Hufker wrote on Wed, 16 January 2008 11:13

I'm not laughing because the late L.Ron Hubbard had one of the finest microphone collections on the planet.  Now that he's gone and it is part of the Church of Scientology, none of it will ever be mine.... poop.





Yeah, and I think he had one of the early Fairlight keyboard sampler thingys too.
I used to correspond with him before he died. Even sent him some of my tunes.
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: Barry Hufker on January 17, 2008, 12:00:32 am
PRobb wrote on Wed, 16 January 2008 10:23

Barry Hufker wrote on Wed, 16 January 2008 00:12

The difference tho' is St. Paul had the Gospel and Tom Cruise has a cult.  

The difference is not that clear to me.



I'll make sure you get educated some time!  Razz
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: phantom309 on January 17, 2008, 12:09:09 am
Harland wrote on Wed, 16 January 2008 16:16

Barry Hufker wrote on Wed, 16 January 2008 11:13

I'm not laughing because the late L.Ron Hubbard had one of the finest microphone collections on the planet.  Now that he's gone and it is part of the Church of Scientology, none of it will ever be mine.... poop.





Yeah, and I think he had one of the early Fairlight keyboard sampler thingys too.
I used to correspond with him before he died. Even sent him some of my tunes.


All of the above mentioned goodies are the TIP OF THE ICEBERG. They have a perfect ( and I MEAN perfect) Mellotron Mk II in the UK St. Hill org. They have more gorgeous audio gear in La Quinta than you could imagine.

Then there's the whole "let's record all of L.R.H.'s writings to vinyl disk and bury them in a time capsule" project that some of you LA guys may know of.
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: Barry Hufker on January 17, 2008, 12:17:01 am
OK, here's the plan.  I have blueprints of the building.  We'll divide into three teams -- analog, digital and microphones.  When we're in the clear, we'll divvy up the goods.

So, meet me tomorrow night at midnight!
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: PRobb on January 17, 2008, 01:02:08 am
Here is a site about the studio. They say they have a handmade George Massenburg console. Anybody know anything about that? The mic collection does look spectacular.

However

Quote:

A large part of what brings that purity and faithfulness of sound is Ron’s discovery -- and he was the first and only to discern the fact -- that sound does not have wavelengths; it simply has vibrations. In consequence, much advanced acoustic design suffers from a generally misunderstood concept of precisely how sound behaves. In contrast, the L. Ron Hubbard studio offers an audio environment that is literally perfect. The studio further offers a “building within a building” design, with each room set on its own “floating” concrete slab, (replete with separate walls and ceiling) to ensure no sound transmission during recording.


I'll bet he was the first to discern that. Also the last. Rolling Eyes
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: J.J. Blair on January 17, 2008, 01:12:11 am
Not a bad little collection!
http://www.ronthemusicmaker.org/music/p73_1.jpg

And check out the whacky monitor set up:
http://www.ronthemusicmaker.org/music/p68_1.jpg
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: Tomas Danko on January 17, 2008, 06:46:57 am
There's been previous discussions regarding Hubbard's studio gear list, here on PSW. The Massenburg consoles were mentioned, together with a guy who actually was asked to start working there as an audio engineer. He got the tour, and his story is tremendously bizarre. (He decided it wasn't a very good place to work)
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: mgod on January 17, 2008, 10:29:43 am
phantom309 wrote on Wed, 16 January 2008 21:09


Then there's the whole "let's record all of L.R.H.'s writings to vinyl disk and bury them in a time capsule" project that some of you LA guys may know of.

Allegedly they have their own room at RTI, and bury the discs with turntables and picto-graphic representations of how to use them - this in order for the coming post-nuclear cockroach civilzation to be enlightened. Vinyl rules!

DS
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: Jay Kadis on January 17, 2008, 10:30:27 am
"Stradivarious"?  Never heard of him.  
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: MagnetoSound on January 17, 2008, 10:55:31 am
J.J. Blair wrote on Thu, 17 January 2008 06:12

And check out the whacky monitor set up:
http://www.ronthemusicmaker.org/music/p68_1.jpg


Yeah, it looks like Magic Alex may have been recruited!

Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: PRobb on January 17, 2008, 10:59:27 am
MagnetoSound wrote on Thu, 17 January 2008 10:55



Yeah, it looks like Magic Alex may have been recruited!



Except his stuff didn't work. I bet the Massenburg console is a monster! The website says there are three in world. Anybody ever seen one? Where are the other two?
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: mgod on January 17, 2008, 11:59:17 am
Those "wacky monitors" are Infinity IRS series speakers. Probably IRS V. One of the most amazing speaker set-ups I've ever experienced, and experienced is the word, its more than hearing. Those woofer towers will smack you in the chest at eight feet.

The question is what do they do with all this?

Damn! I gotta start me a religion - its good bidness!

DS
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: Barry Hufker on January 17, 2008, 12:07:36 pm
One is laying with L.Ron.  The other is in Tom Cruise's bedroom.

Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: Barry Hufker on January 17, 2008, 12:10:15 pm
There was a guy here in STL who bought a church with a great chamber music concert hall.  But as the property was zoned "church" he couldn't buy it unless it was operated that way.  So he started his own religion and named himself a bishop.  He bought the concert hall and started holding concerts -- blues, jazz, folk, etc.  The only tenet his religion held is that "music is a good thing".  The IRS soon shut him down.
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: PRobb on January 17, 2008, 12:30:23 pm
Barry Hufker wrote on Thu, 17 January 2008 12:10

  The only tenet his religion held is that "music is a good thing".  


I think I just got religion. Sign me up! Can I get a funky AMEN somebody....key of A major! Laughing
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: Jay Kadis on January 17, 2008, 01:05:08 pm
http://www.themonastery.org/

I'm a minister.  How about you?
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: mgod on January 17, 2008, 01:30:40 pm
Jay Kadis wrote on Thu, 17 January 2008 10:05

http://www.themonastery.org/

I'm a minister.  How about you?

OK - that's it. I'm signing up.

DS
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: Jay Kadis on January 17, 2008, 01:38:13 pm
I've been a Universal Life Church minister since my college days.  Kirby Hensley came to the university and ordained a couple of hundred people.  Some folks used their ministries to attempt to avoid income taxes, dodge the draft and skirt local ordinances but the courts soon put a stop to that.
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: JGreenslade on January 17, 2008, 02:24:14 pm
IIRC, The Massenburg console has been discussed at one of GM's previous 'web groups. It uses 5534 ICs, as well as some GM discrete stages, but - from what I remember - GM himself wasn't too glowing about it.


Justin
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: Larrchild on January 17, 2008, 04:06:38 pm
"Get thee behind me, Thetan"
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: PRobb on January 17, 2008, 04:33:52 pm
Larrchild wrote on Thu, 17 January 2008 16:06

"Get thee behind me, Thetan"

The pun is truly the lowest form of humor.



Laughing  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: Andy Peters on January 17, 2008, 07:35:24 pm
mgod wrote on Thu, 17 January 2008 09:59

Damn! I gotta start me a religion - its good bidness!


So says ol' L-Ron himself.

-a
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: compasspnt on January 18, 2008, 12:08:29 am
Ha.

I can now write your song, produce and engineer your album, and marry you, all at once.

Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: phantom309 on January 18, 2008, 12:43:30 am
J.J. Blair wrote on Wed, 16 January 2008 23:12

Not a bad little collection!
http://www.ronthemusicmaker.org/music/p73_1.jpg

And check out the whacky monitor set up:
http://www.ronthemusicmaker.org/music/p68_1.jpg


THAT is a Stephens suggestion.

John was ALL over those arrays and gave Dave Amels and I about 45 minutes of reasons why it works so well.


Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: Jay Kadis on January 18, 2008, 10:27:31 am
phantom309 wrote on Thu, 17 January 2008 21:43


John was ALL over those arrays and gave Dave Amels and I about 45 minutes of reasons why it works so well.

Those arrays look a lot like the arrays used in wavefield synthesis installations.
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: mgod on January 18, 2008, 11:17:01 am
phantom309 wrote on Thu, 17 January 2008 21:43


THAT is a Stephens suggestion.

John was ALL over those arrays and gave Dave Amels and I about 45 minutes of reasons why it works so well.

What's a Stephens suggestion? The speakers? Arnie Nudell gets no credit for being their designer?

DS
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: phantom309 on January 18, 2008, 04:57:54 pm
mgod wrote on Fri, 18 January 2008 09:17

phantom309 wrote on Thu, 17 January 2008 21:43


THAT is a Stephens suggestion.

John was ALL over those arrays and gave Dave Amels and I about 45 minutes of reasons why it works so well.

What's a Stephens suggestion? The speakers? Arnie Nudell gets no credit for being their designer?

DS



It was John's SUGGESTION that they use them. John did a lot of experimenting with this type of technology.

The church has a Stephens 2in. 16 that they still use....it's clear, OT VII, a Class XII auditor and sounds great.   Very Happy
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: bblackwood on January 18, 2008, 08:29:13 pm
The don't record L. Ron's stuff to vinyl, they have a couple of the few remaining metal lathes ever built...
Title: Re: YOU can depend on TOM CRUISE
Post by: Andy Peters on January 18, 2008, 08:32:03 pm
phantom309 wrote on Thu, 17 January 2008 22:43

J.J. Blair wrote on Wed, 16 January 2008 23:12

And check out the whacky monitor set up:
http://www.ronthemusicmaker.org/music/p68_1.jpg


THAT is a Stephens suggestion.

John was ALL over those arrays and gave Dave Amels and I about 45 minutes of reasons why it works so well.


It's a mini line array. How well it works depends on the driver spacing. If done right, it could be real good.

If done wrong, it's a Shure Vocal Master.

-a
Title: How about Appliantology?
Post by: Bill_Urick on January 20, 2008, 06:34:32 pm
Frank Zappa - A Token Of My Extreme Lyrics

Act II

SCENE NINE
A TOKEN OF MY EXTREME

Arriving at L. Ron Hoover's modernistic office / cathedral / ware-house /
condominium complex, Joe is greeted by a pre-recorded message and
a dramatically illuminated image on a wall-sized TV screen...

L. RON HOOVER:
Welcome to the First Church of Appliantology!
The WHITE ZONE is for loading and unloading only!

Don't you be
Tarot-fied
It's just a token of my extreme
Don't you be
Tarot-fied
It's just a token of my extreme
Don't you never try to look behind my eyes
You don t wanna know what they have seen
Don't you never try to look behind my eyes
You don't wanna know what they have seen

JOE: (thinking to himself)
Some people think
That if they go too far
They'll never get hack
To where the rest of them are
I might be crazy
But there's one thing I know
You might be surprised
At what you find when ya go!

And thus, having rationalized his expedition to L. Ron's modernistic office /
cathedral / warehouse / condominium complex, JOE seeks The Answer to
his problem...

JOE:
Oh oh oh
Mystical Advisor
What is my problem, tell me
Can you see?

L. RON HOOVER:
Well, you have nothing to fear, my son!
You are a Latent Appliance Fetishist, It appears to me!

JOE:
That all seems very, very strange
I never craved a toaster
Or a color T. V.

L. RON HOOVER:
A Latent Appliance Fetishist
Is a person who refuses to admit to his or herself
That sexual gratification can only be achieved
Through the use of MACHINES... Get the picture?

JOE:
Are you telling me
I should come out of the closet now Mr. Ron?

L. RON HOOVER:
No, my son!
You must go into THE CLOSET
And you will have
A lot of fun!
That's where they all live
So if you want an
Appliance to love you
You'll have to go in there
N' get you one

JOE:
Well...that seems simple enough...

L. RON HOOVER:
Yes, but if you want a really GOOD one,
You'll have to learn a foreign language...

JOE:
German, for instance?

L. RON HOOVER:
That's right...
A lot of really cute ones come from over there!
(Fifty bucks, please)

And a cheerful group of Appliantologists dance into the room wearing
aluminum foil lab smocks, lock arms in a circle around JOE, making
sure he pays in full, all the while singing with L. RON as he delivers
nis final instructions...

L. RON HOOVER:
If you been
Mod-O-fied,
It's an illusion,
an yer in between
Don't you be
Tarot-fied,
It's just a lot of nothin,'
So what can it mean?
If you been
Mod-O-fied,
It's an illusion,
an yer in between
Don't you be
Tarot-fied,
It's just a lot of nothin,
So what can it mean?
(etc., etc., etc.)

JOE leaves the First Church of Appliantology and sets out to try L. RON s expensive advice

CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER:
This is the CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER... Joe has just learned to speak
German Now, get this, heres why he did it! He's gonna go to this club on
the other side of town, it's called THE CLOSET...
And they got these Appliances in there that really go for a guy dressed up
like a housewife who can speak German (you know what I mean)... so
Joe's learned how to speak German, he goes in this place and he sees
these little Kitchen Machineries dancing around with each other, and he
sees this one...that looks like it's a cross between an industrial vacuum
cleaner and a chrome piggy bank with marital aids stuck all over its body...
it's really exciting...and when he sees it, he BURSTS INTO SONG...

Title: Re: How about Appliantology?
Post by: J.J. Blair on January 21, 2008, 12:59:48 am
My favorite part is when he plooks him to death and they ask him to compensate them, and he says, "But I can't pay.  I gave all my money to some groovy religious guy two songs ago."
Title: Re: How about Appliantology?
Post by: mgod on January 21, 2008, 12:05:48 pm
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4PDv0fMyzYA