hargerst wrote on Mon, 31 May 2004 14:35 |
Some of the problem is due to less than stellar equipment (but some of it is stellar), but most of the problem is probably due to too high expectations and not enough time spent on mic placements and eq. A lot of the mics you list would not be my first choices (or even my fifth choices). |
GY wrote on Mon, 31 May 2004 15:57 |
For me... you left out the most important piece. What monitors are you using? Describe your monitoring setup. |
ivan40 wrote on Tue, 01 June 2004 00:37 |
Hey,For the record: I'm not in any way questioning your skill or your ability to make a record.I'm saying that if you expect to get results that match a Trident??? a Studer ,1176's LA-2A's a set of rooms made for recording,great monitors,great mic's and what generally comes with an old school purpose built Studio, It is very very hard to get done.When it comes to the mixing stage alone, the monitors and room could kill it for the best of the best engineers. It's not all about equipment but, there is, as you know a universe of difference between high end stuff and mid end stuff. I know how this feels because I'm in the same boat except,in some ways, your rig is nicer than mine. I'm someone who thinks that a whole lot of things about making records has gotten worse ,not better. Your rig and my rig are fine and we can get good results and make people happy about our music but we can't sound like an old school studio. To much stuff adds up to degrade the audio just enough to make a difference. I'm glad I get to have a studio and I will continue to work my ass off to make it sound great but there is only so much I can do about the signal chain.$$$$$ Peace...... |
bloodstone wrote on Tue, 01 June 2004 03:32 |
Well, ultimately we do have to take responsibility/"ownership" (to use a corporate term I despise) for the quality of the work that we do. I don't expect to match a Trident/Studer combo, but I'd just like to get it closer, push myself & gear further (plus there are great recordings done on less equipment than I have). No offense taken, but I'm sure it's partly a lack of skill on my part. I'm definitely still learning. Since I last wrote I've been experimenting with more drastic EQ (steeper cuts and more aggressive boost in appropriate ranges) and it seems to help a lot. I've determined the fidelity of my DAT is inferior to that of the CD-R. Thanks for your comments. |
hargerst wrote on Tue, 01 June 2004 14:34 | ||
How hot are you recording to your DAT? I've found that some of them sound really harsh when you go for that last bit of dynamic range. Try keeping your peak levels down to -5 or -6dB, no higher than that, and see if that improves the sound. On the DA-30, I found the A/D converters so harsh, I now use a Lucid A/D in front, just to bypass the Tascam converters. |
Ethan Winer wrote on Wed, 02 June 2004 17:30 |
Blood, > What would you suggest could be the most significant upgrade I could make to take it up a notch? [long list of gear] < If your monitoring is inadequate you can't hear what you're doing, so creating a great mix will remain elusive. I see a bunch of gear, but what sort of room treatment do you have? Personally, I'd rather have only semi-pro gear in a room that's properly treated, than $1,000,000 worth of primo gear in an untreated room. --Ethan |
Ethan Winer wrote on Wed, 02 June 2004 12:30 |
Blood, > Personally, I'd rather have only semi-pro gear in a room that's properly treated, than $1,000,000 worth of primo gear in an untreated room. |
Tim Gilles wrote on Fri, 04 June 2004 11:37 |
Nodes - Schmodes. [Daffy Duck Voice]. Is that all you got? That graph? LMFBO. Whatever. My opinion stands. Adapt and overcome. It's "pick yer poison". You take the room. Gimmie the gear. Rumblefish. |
Buzz wrote on Fri, 04 June 2004 22:38 |
Blood from what I've read in this post your biggest improvement would be your MONITORS , I used to use the Alesis M1's then upgraded to Tannoy system 800a's and the difference is HUGE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! , I havent worked on my room as Ethan suggests but he is right about getting the best sounding room possible ( why would most studio's spend $$$$$$$$ on room's for the past 30 years if it didnt work ??? ) Anyhow Harvey is a great source for mic info I've learned ton;s from him Later Buzz |
Tim Gilles wrote on Fri, 04 June 2004 19:37 |
Nodes - Schmodes. [Daffy Duck Voice]. You take the room. Gimmie the gear. Rumblefish. |