David Kulka wrote on Sun, 30 January 2005 09:46 |
In the 60's there were basically two ways to get reverb -- echo chambers and EMT plates (which were introduced in '57)... |
dasbin wrote on Wed, 02 February 2005 06:34 |
It's funny, I absolutely detest the reverb sounds on old albums, especially the Beatles. I guess it's a generational thing... I was an 80's child and really got into music in the 90's so I far prefer modern recordings. I try and try but simply cannot "get" the supposed magic of the old recordings. Everything sounds thin and weak to me, like they're on the other end of a tin-and-string-phone. It only sounds good on a top-shelf system, and that's not my style of mixing. The reverbs bug me most of all. It's dark and too big and there's just too much of it! Just an alternate perspective. I know it's blasphemy but I can't help it. |
WhyKooper wrote on Wed, 02 February 2005 01:53 |
I don't know why there's not just a section of music "only" on the dvd as was done on the Yellow Submarine package. |
Bob Olhsson wrote on Sun, 30 January 2005 05:18 |
It was ALL of the above! A GOOD plate often sounded better than a mediocre chamber but we used them in any imaginable combination. |
WhyKooper wrote on Wed, 02 February 2005 01:53 |
I'm still trying to figure out if the guys who remixed this stuff used new reverb or the old AR equipment. I've tried getting more info, but contacting those people at Abbey Road is like trying to walk into Ft Knox. |
pontuso wrote on Wed, 02 February 2005 03:13 |
...Up to Sgt Pepper I only listened to the UK mono albums ,which if I´m correct where the only mix sessions Beatles attended... |
Bob Olhsson wrote on Wed, 02 February 2005 20:28 | ||
Sgt. Peppers was the first Beatles album mixed in stereo but I'm told nobody attended although George Martin signed off on it. The mono is quite a bit better. All "stereo" prior to Sgt Pepper was a kludge Capital made for US release from a copy of the final 4-track work tapes. Because it was produced/intended entirely for mono, it was strange to say the least. Capital added insult to injury by crediting the Capitol A&R guy who supervised this kludge (in addition to taking off all the low-end) as being co-producer with George Martin. |
Antti Uusimaki wrote on Sun, 30 January 2005 11:14 |
Abbey Road still has the echo chamber in studio 2 and 6 EMT plates if I remember right. Terry, you recorded Isaac Hayes's 'Walk On By', right? One of my all time favourites and a reference. What was your approach to that? Mics, mic placement? What was the set up for strings? 12-2-2? Was it cut live or did you overdub some parts? Thanks, Antti |
canada wrote on Sun, 06 February 2005 10:50 |
I'm afraid I would be quite disillusioned if the reverbs I'm hearing on the Beatles Anth DVD aren't the genuine article. Calls for a conclusion, but I can't find the information! Cheers, and thanks for the replies. |
George Massenburg wrote on Sun, 06 February 2005 07:32 |
Hey Terry, I'm a HUGE fan of "Trashy Dog". I would appear that you engineered that as well as played everything that Cropper and Pop Staples didn't. And, in fact, you don't have alot of engineering credits. What did you do back then? George |
David Kulka wrote on Sun, 30 January 2005 07:46 |
As I recall, Chamber 3 at Western (the one connected to Studio 3, where the Beach Boys hits were made) was in the back of the building, |
vernier wrote on Fri, 14 October 2005 14:44 |
You reserve the chamber, then patch in from whatever control room you're in. |
Sarusan wrote on Fri, 14 October 2005 11:22 | ||
Were the chambers hard wired to the studios then? The verb on the Mamas and Papas records, which I'm assuming were mixed in Studio 3, sounds more like chamber 5 which is off the back alley on the second floor. Steven |
Antti Uusimaki wrote on Sun, 30 January 2005 11:14 |
Abbey Road still has the echo chamber in studio 2 and 6 EMT plates if I remember right. Terry, you recorded Isaac Hayes's 'Walk On By', right? One of my all time favourites and a reference. What was your approach to that? Mics, mic placement? What was the set up for strings? 12-2-2? Was it cut live or did you overdub some parts? Thanks, Antti |