| rattleyour wrote on Mon, 12 December 2005 05:01 |
How about something that incorporates Eno's "oblique strategies" approach. I don't actually know that much about the content of the cards aside from what I've read, but it could a cool way to set some parameters. |
| bacon skin wrote on Sun, 11 December 2005 21:11 | ||
I have one of the original first edition sets from the 70's. I'll be glad to be the Keeper of the Oblique Strategies. Here: I'll draw one at random. Hang on. "Abandon normal instruments." |
| j.hall wrote on Mon, 12 December 2005 17:47 |
if we are going to set restrictions on writing like we have in the past i'd say that maybe picking an alternate tuning would be as far as i'd go. |
| bacon skin wrote on Mon, 12 December 2005 10:06 | ||
I use CGDAEG (low to high) exclusively, so I'd welcome that. So, would someone please catch me up? How do these things usually work? I've never done this before. Are we going to collaborate or work separately and compare the results? Pardon my ignorance of tradition. I'm down for whatever, provided interest is sufficient. I'd just like to know how it's done. DF |
| Bivouac wrote on Mon, 12 December 2005 11:16 |
-DADEAD |
| j.hall wrote on Mon, 12 December 2005 13:59 |
argue about the alt tunings all you want. i couldn't care less. i quite enjoy a little kyuss in my diet, so if we tune the 6th string to A that could be really cool. the whole point of these things is to expand your mind, to be forced to work with something you would never gravitate toward on your own. i started these things intentionally to serve two purposes 1. to spark creativity outside of your normal creative work flow. as musicians and engineers/producers we establish working habits that are comfortable to us, and have been successful in the past. being forced to go outside of that comfort zone is scary but often leads to exploring new areas of your own self. this is a good thing, IMO. 2. as producers and AE's we typically confront situations with only a single mindset. we gravitate towards bands we like and that we easily identify with musically and creatively. being forced to move outside of that can teach you that music is music and you can work with anything given the focus and motivation. the restrictions we place on these "events" shouldn't be something you guys are necessarily comfortable with. they should be something that forces you into new places. away from your comfort zone and whatever formulas you have developed over the years. these things all tie in to what i've been trying to do with this forum for a few years now. trying to break down a lot of the walls indie rockers put up. are you a music lover and artist or are you just a guy in a hot topic shirt, white belt, beard, and walmart velcro shoes? get my point? i'll start a new thread for this when i think we have something worthy.....right now we're just brainstorming. let's not get ahead of ourselves. |
| rattleyour wrote on Mon, 12 December 2005 15:16 |
Let's just say alternate tuning TBD and figure out what else we're doing so His Royal Highness the Thread Master will give us a venue. |
| Bivouac wrote on Mon, 12 December 2005 15:45 | ||
Whoa! I certainly didn't mean to come off as controlling. I'm just so excited that I want to get the ball rolling. Believe me, I'd be more than happy to just participate... Did I understand you correctly? Again, I think the alt tuning thing is a great idea because it ties everything together but still allows for so much freedom. I could care less about the tuning too. I'd love to try something new that someone else enjoys--just throwing out some ideas. I think everyone just selecting a tuning they normally don't use is a great idea as well... DADEAD doesn't have anything above standard pitch--it's all down. I've only been able to write one song in it, but it turned out pretty well. Lot's of cool dissonances...Love the observation by the way. I'm calling it the "Dead Dad" tuning from now on... I had an idea of doing, like, a murder mystery game where everyone selects a character in a house. Like I mentioned above, cheesey, but it would be a great exercise in character development within the context of verse. Almost like the Canterbury Tales, but set to music... ...We could then look at some provided evidence and figure out who is guilty. You know: "The indie poseur, at The Bottleneck, with his pretentions..." |