Post by: vernier on March 13, 2006, 11:15:02 PM
And anyone know what gear was in the mobile truck?
Post by: James Perrett on March 14, 2006, 08:49:29 AM
Cheers
James.
Post by: Matt Allen on March 19, 2006, 01:46:02 AM
Also lots of stories about amps in fireplaces and outside recordings.
Matt
Post by: yammer on April 19, 2006, 04:22:50 AM
I wish I knew more about his setup. If anyone knows about Ronnie Lane's rig, please let us know!Also, if anyone cares to use my rig and record Led Zeppelin style at your favorite mansion: www.eartotheground.com
Here's a shot of Ronnie Lane's rig, on one of his album covers:
Post by: Brian Kehew on April 19, 2006, 05:40:48 AM
Post by: yammer on April 19, 2006, 11:28:11 AM
Post by: max cooper on April 20, 2006, 02:30:55 PM
Ashes to ashes, and all that.
Post by: drumsound on April 21, 2006, 05:04:20 PM
Post by: phantom309 on April 29, 2006, 01:09:24 AM
The truck is still in Calgary, I drove it up here from New Jersey and the Console is still installed in the truck and funcitoning just fine! Sounds great but the old DAF motor is getting tired and will have to be replaced someday.
Post by: yammer on May 04, 2006, 08:52:16 AM
Post by: dB Sound Design on June 08, 2006, 06:09:23 AM
Jeff DelBello
dB Sound Design
Post by: kjcoral on July 28, 2006, 05:28:47 PM
| dB Sound Design wrote on Thu, 08 June 2006 06:09 |
The Rolling Stones Mobile was purchased @ auction n England and brought back to the states for restoration about 8-10years ago. I was the tech that spec'd the truck in England and did some repairs and a few gigs w/ it in the NYC area before it was sold off to someone in Canada. The Helios in the truck ran off 48V rails. It had an ingenious switchover unit that would allow it to run off the (2) truck batteries for about 5-6 hrs during power failure. There were (2) M79s which were restored by a tech in Ga. i think. There where also (2) 24trk dolby units normalled to the machines, one of which was missing the control card. Too bad, I found an extra control card in a lot I bought here in NYC. There was also A couple of bel flangers LA-2As DBX 160 VUs and such in it. Who knows what changes had been made over time. The Helios was restored mainly by Ken McKim, currently of Allaire studios, up in Phoenicia NY. I assisted w/ some of the work. technically the truck was a bit of a nightmare by the late 90s. We did a show @ the Tibetan fest @ RFK stadium in DC. the truck had to be towed there as the engine, as previously described, was on its way out. the master feed did sound pretty amazing, however, the output of the trucks AV feed were set to British broadcast level +10 or something. It was blowing out the broadcast trucks inputs whooooooops. there where many good stories over the years regarding the mobile. We added a few new ones before and after it reached US soil. Jeff DelBello dB Sound Design |
hey jeff, did the helios still have the ADR F700 limiters in it?
Post by: phantom309 on August 01, 2006, 02:28:46 PM
There were 3 in total, the 3rd is in another rack...and they do have a different sound than our F760's. The Bel flanger that was used on Kashmir is still in the Mobile.
David Kean
Post by: Matt Allen on August 02, 2006, 10:25:13 PM
http://www.arcavitsystems.com/mobile/the_van_p.asp
Also I was setting up an Otari 100A for some Waylon Jennings Transfers and some of the concerts had been recorded by the Stones Truck. The crazy thing was the Tape baking was BLUE!! Like M79 blue. Any idea what the story is on that?
Matt Allen
Post by: RMoore on August 06, 2006, 02:34:33 AM
| mattallen wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 04:25 |
Here's a cool link on the Rolling Stones Remote Truck! http://www.arcavitsystems.com/mobile/the_van_p.asp |
Awesome!
Thnx for that link,
RM
Post by: James Perrett on August 07, 2006, 09:15:48 AM
| mattallen wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 03:25 |
The crazy thing was the Tape baking was BLUE!! Like M79 blue. Any idea what the story is on that? |
I've got a few reels with blue backing - I think they came on EMI spools but they could possibly be Zonal.
Scotch 263, which was used by the BBC for a while, had a light green back coating.
Cheers
James.
Post by: Arny on March 16, 2008, 09:09:24 AM
| James Perrett wrote on Mon, 07 August 2006 08:15 | ||
I've got a few reels with blue backing - I think they came on EMI spools but they could possibly be Zonal. Scotch 263, which was used by the BBC for a while, had a light green back coating. Cheers James. |
Dear James,
You are right the green 263 made by 3M’s, was used by the BBC, purposely to archive recordings made for BBC3’s Classical Music Programs due to its low print through spec.
EMI brought out a brown tape if I remember correctly it was called 816
Agfa brought out a Low Print through Pink Tape = PE something.
I do have a complete article from Racal expressing how the turn rust into recording tape (If someone requires it)
The blue 888 Tape made by Racal Zonal, this tape was designed to compete against Ampex 456, it claimed to require exactly the same bias set-up etc, making it very simple to use this tape at half the price without having to re-calibrate your tape machine.
I was using a lot of 456 at the time mainly for the Pro-Artists who could afford it, but it would be nice to have a tape costing half the price for the local bands doing demos.
The Racal sales guy dropped off two reels for me to try.
I checked it out and sure enough the set-up was identical, the only thing I could find wrong, was the hiss levels were higher.
On further checks I realised that it was the blue backing running against the fixed posts on the Ampex MM1200, making this hissy mechanical noise, and having the tape machine in the centre of my monitors it was unacceptable.
A couple of weeks past and Racal called to ask me my thoughts, I replied that I was pleased with the tape, they then asked
"We have not received an order from you yet"
I replied no you wont for a while let me explain"
As it is also the same price as a small reel of leader tape, and yet 3 times longer I have decided to continue to use it as
"Blue Leader Tape".
Best Regards
Tony
www.arnys-shack.com
Post by: Arny on March 16, 2008, 09:16:33 AM
I often wonder what the Russians thought of Mick specifying USA Tape.
Best Regards
Tony
Tony Arnold (Director)
www.helios-electronics.com
Post by: zmix on March 17, 2008, 12:19:30 AM
| phantom309 wrote on Tue, 01 August 2006 14:28 |
The Bel flanger that was used on Kashmir is still in the Mobile. David Kean |
But, the song Kashmir used an Eventide "Instant Phaser" on the drums, not a flanger.