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R/E/P => Mastering Dynamics => Topic started by: bblackwood on September 03, 2011, 05:49:38 PM

Title: The McGurk Effect - Is Seeing Believing?
Post by: bblackwood on September 03, 2011, 05:49:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-lN8vWm3m0

Title: Re: The McGurk Effect - Is Seeing Believing?
Post by: Allen Corneau on September 03, 2011, 06:29:53 PM
Interesting.

I kind of wish CD's had a visual component to them, that way I could understand what they're singing.

As a kid (and for years after) I thought the Queen song was, "Another one rides the bus".  :-\
Title: Re: The McGurk Effect - Is Seeing Believing?
Post by: Steffen on September 03, 2011, 06:45:37 PM
I was aware that visuals influence your hearing but thats a crazy effect :)


Don`t watch the meters!   ;D
Title: Re: The McGurk Effect - Is Seeing Believing?
Post by: bblackwood on September 03, 2011, 08:18:40 PM
Quote from: Steffen on September 03, 2011, 06:45:37 PM
Don`t watch the meters!   ;
And RTAs.

Title: Re: The McGurk Effect - Is Seeing Believing?
Post by: Sean McDonald on September 04, 2011, 12:26:37 AM
Quote from: bblackwood on September 03, 2011, 05:49:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-lN8vWm3m0

very cool stuff..
Title: Re: The McGurk Effect - Is Seeing Believing?
Post by: JCMastering on September 04, 2011, 10:24:08 AM
Makes me wonder about all those mastering studios that put large video monitors and fill the screen with an array of meters for the clients.
Title: Re: The McGurk Effect - Is Seeing Believing?
Post by: Jerry Tubb on September 04, 2011, 11:40:08 AM
A very enlightening video.

We already know that ~critical listening~ is King.

Music and audio... it's an ear thing.

Occasionally referring to a meter or analyzer... when needed.

Although we've been over this topic many times on the forums,

it's always a good reminder.

JT
Title: Re: The McGurk Effect - Is Seeing Believing?
Post by: jdg on September 04, 2011, 12:48:35 PM
one of my fav things ever....

humans are great platform for hacking
Title: Re: The McGurk Effect - Is Seeing Believing?
Post by: Cass Anawaty on September 04, 2011, 03:23:03 PM
That's pretty weird.  More disturbing to me is that I've probably been singing the wrong lyrics....how embarrassing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSwJ2rjUSdc
Title: Re: The McGurk Effect - Is Seeing Believing?
Post by: Greg Reierson on September 04, 2011, 09:09:25 PM
If you ever get the chance, go hear Jim Johnston speak about audio perception. The ear is very easy to fool.

GR
Title: Re: The McGurk Effect - Is Seeing Believing?
Post by: Ben F on September 05, 2011, 01:17:14 AM
Sounds awesome! Oh it was bypassed all along.

Title: Re: The McGurk Effect - Is Seeing Believing?
Post by: Twerk on September 05, 2011, 01:35:45 PM
Truly fascinating! Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: The McGurk Effect - Is Seeing Believing?
Post by: ggidluck on September 08, 2011, 12:13:05 PM
That's very eye-opening and thought provoking. Thanks for posting it as well.
Title: Re: The McGurk Effect - Is Seeing Believing?
Post by: bkuijt on September 08, 2011, 06:18:47 PM
Thanks for the education!
Just made a surround mix of a solo chello SACD production. When I balanced the center channel with my eyes closed I would put it much louder then when I was looking at the center speaker. 
With eyes open it just folds into the speaker sooner... maybe because the brain knows that black thing is the source?

btw, I'm waiting for the first mockup video on youtube actually making Queen sing "another one fights the fuzz" :-))

Cheers, Bastiaan
Title: Re: The McGurk Effect - Is Seeing Believing?
Post by: SafeandSoundMastering on September 09, 2011, 04:30:45 AM
I saw this uite some time ago, I wondered if this relates more to speech and language/ visual communication cues processing than music.
Title: Re: The McGurk Effect - Is Seeing Believing?
Post by: Greg Reierson on September 09, 2011, 01:14:48 PM
It basically says you can trick your brain into believing anything.


GR
Title: Re: The McGurk Effect - Is Seeing Believing?
Post by: jdg on September 09, 2011, 02:07:45 PM
knock knock neo
Title: Re: The McGurk Effect - Is Seeing Believing?
Post by: Patrik_T on September 09, 2011, 02:50:06 PM
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Title: Re: The McGurk Effect - Is Seeing Believing?
Post by: MatteskyK on September 10, 2011, 01:15:01 AM
Quote from: Patrik_T on September 09, 2011, 02:50:06 PM
The only thing usable in mastering is the MacGyver effect.

Is that when you master a record with an EQ made of Duct tape and paper clips, or when you cut tape with your trusty swiss army knife? 
Title: Re: The McGurk Effect - Is Seeing Believing?
Post by: MatteskyK on September 10, 2011, 01:23:36 AM
Great post by the way Brad.  Keeps in mind to keep one's eyes away from their screen.