Thomas Brekke wrote on Mon, 13 December 2004 11:58 |
The Neves I've heard have a distinct character to me which just feels right and this is what I'm after. I'm after the SOUND, not the marketing strategy nor the exact historically correct blueprint of a 1073. |
Fletcher wrote on Mon, 13 December 2004 20:31 |
Wow... this is fun to watch... my only question so far is if any of y'all know what a "Neve sound" is? ...or what it is you like about the "Neve sound"... or what about the "Neve sound" intrigues you most? There are several different modules that constitute the "Neve" family, so, are we talking "10 series" are we talking "33" series, "31" series? ...or are we just digging the concept of something sounding "large" being the "Neve" sound... or is it a 'distortion' that we think makes things bigger that we are intrerpreting as the "Neve sound" I don't mean to break balls [OK, I probably do]... and I am really trying to encourage a freedom of expression here, but not a perpetuation of bullshit myth. |
Thomas Brekke wrote on Tue, 14 December 2004 05:30 |
My feeling is that a lot of class A circuits have a lot of punch and a cool, often subtle compression in certain areas of the spectrum. This "compression" or "fatness" is something I associate with the Neves I've heard. |
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Seems like the Vintech 473 could be the one for me. Almost everyone says they're great (except some dealers who don't sell them.......). |
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From what I've read so far it seems like Great Rivers NVs are good, but a bit clean and Phoenix DRS is a bit airy, bright and uncolored. But well, it could be that the difference between these pre's is quite small, but give me a hint if I'm doing something foolish.............. |
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The best price I've been offered on the 473 and power supply, is $2800. Sounds like a pretty good deal to me. Better deal, anyone......? |
Fletcher wrote on Tue, 14 December 2004 03:36 |
Now... with all that said... there are some other things you might owe it to yourself to look into... like the Helios stuff. That is also a different sound than a "Neve" sound, but it's usually no less "fat" [or is it "phat"?] sounding, but again, they're different |
Thomas Brekke wrote on Tue, 14 December 2004 05:30 |
Ok, I would like a 1073 that does drums, vocals and bass really well. I don't want it to airy and hifi and it need to have substance in the lows. The best price I've been offered on the 473 and power supply, is $2800. Sounds like a pretty good deal to me. Better deal, anyone......? |
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Oh shit... (kicks dirt, stares at the ground), like I haven't heard that accusation a bazillion times. Look ace, M-A has had the opportunity to carry Vintech for years, M-A doesn't carry Vintech because of a consious decision that was based on experience... you want to draw a different conclusion, knock yourself out, the fact of the matter is that nobody in our joint was wild about them, so we don't carry them. |
184c wrote on Fri, 17 December 2004 22:57 |
These blind listening test "opportunities" were offered to you on several occasions, only after you consistently bashed the X73 and later admitted that you had never given it a proper evaluation. We in no way meant these public offers for you to pick our X73 and or X73i out of a lineup of vintage 1073's, which you have always found reasons not to attend, as being an offer for you to become a dealer for us. |
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Mackie just sent in their latest and greatest pre-amp for us to mess with |
Kubi wrote on Thu, 23 December 2004 11:56 |
.... stay the fuck out of comparative threads, but leave the rest of us alone... I don't need politicians OR clerics OR audio geeks telling me what is or isn't good for me... So lay off, will ya! |
decibel wrote on Thu, 23 December 2004 17:17 |
Can someone exlain the connection between Aurora Audio and Phoenix Audio. On the Aurora website, it also says Phoenix audio, but they seem to be two different companies. The products look similar and even the logos look similar....what's the deal? thanks, Andy Dodd |
compasspnt wrote on Mon, 27 December 2004 13:41 |
I've seen no mention of the Daking stuff...not that it's necessarily a Neve clone. Does anyone have experience/reports on Daking? I've always wondered about it. |
mr.T wrote on Mon, 13 December 2004 06:58 |
Hi, this is my first post on this forum. I'm working as a producer/musican/songwriter in Norway and am currently shopping for a new two or four channel preamp. I already have a UA6176 which works fine for vocals with my M149, but I'm going to track drums in January and therefore need something special. I have tried to find some answers here on these pages, but find it hard to draw any conclusions based on what I've read. Seems just like Harmony Central where people review things they've allready bought and totally slander it once they're bored with it. I want to buy some Neve-clones and this is the list I've ended up with: Aurora GTQ2 Great River MP2 NV (mercanary ed.) Phoenix Audio DRS2 Vintech 473 ORAM Octasonic (not a Neve-clone, but still......) and possibly the Seventh Circle stuff. Seems like you can't go wrong with the Great River gear (what happened with the MP4 by the way?), but still the Aurora preamp is made of a former Neve-engineer who should know what he's doing (?). I'll have to buy one of these without testing them as this is pretty exotic stuff in my country. Could any of you give a good advice on which to pick based on your experience? As mentioned I'm going to use them for drums, but also other things. The Neves I've heard have a distinct character to me which just feels right and this is what I'm after. I'm after the SOUND, not the marketing strategy nor the exact historically correct blueprint of a 1073. I guess this has been disgussed to death allready, but I would love to hear some realworld experience on this topic. |
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If you need your ego to be complete by posting your audio gear on the Internet, then you�re cracked to start with. Get a fukking life already! |
skygod wrote on Sun, 30 July 2006 12:22 |
... or flooding because you chose by your own free-will to live in a known flood zone in LA and FLA or on the Mississippi, or the annual tornado victims in the Midwest, guess what? You and yours are gonna die someday in a sinking crushing, collapsing suffocating, drowning, horrible death. So enjoy the sunshine, and peyote, and new age crystal chanting-stargazing-douche bagging ... because its all good, you're gonna be permanently gone soon ... |
ronin wrote on Tue, 01 August 2006 15:59 |
Wow, I poke my head in for some neve-a-like talk and I get my (inevitable, it seems) fate laid out before me. "sinking crushing, collapsing suffocating, drowning, horrible death".. bummer. Maybe I should have my olfactory epithelium removed and move to the safety of the Garden State. This thread was a fun read though! |