JGauthier wrote on Wed, 03 September 2008 12:55 |
How much difference was there between the big ben clocking the Yamaha VS without it? And would you say the step up with the Big Ben from the Mackie was equal to the step up from the Yamaha? As in the Apogees effect was equally better on both? Congrats on the upgrade! |
Fifthcircle wrote on Fri, 05 September 2008 18:38 |
Yamaha is not exactly known for their clocks. Clock externally always with Yamaha boards. The difference is not subtle. This applies to their small studio boards as well as their larger sound reinforcement boards. --Ben |
Fifthcircle wrote on Thu, 11 September 2008 01:23 |
I have used Yamaha boards for years- from the early days of O2Rs and O3D consoles to today where I use PM5D, DM2000, O1V96, M7CL, LS9 and others... Every single board has improved massively when clocked with a good clock. I'm currently using a Brainstorm DCD-8 for clocking duties, but I've also used Antelope, Apogee, Lavry (blue converters), Mytek (AD896 converters), and others to clock. The differences are not subtle. From the wider sound stage to the clearer sound of the effects. EQs don't sound so grainy, the tails of the reverbs sound better, etc... All this is because the conversion gets that much better with a quality clock. --Ben |
Jay Kadis wrote on Thu, 11 September 2008 13:50 |
You have to be a bit careful in comparing internally and externally clocked systems. We use a central external clock mainly to keep the entire digital studio (3 DTRS machines, ProTools 192 Digital I/O, DM2000, Eventide Orville) clocked from the same source without daisy-chaining. If you use internal clocking from the mixer, the peripherals cannot help but daisy-chain their clocks. So not only does the quality of the source clock matter but so does the cabling arrangement used to distribute the clock. |
Bill Mueller wrote on Thu, 11 September 2008 11:40 |
Jay, Of course, but your post brings up another question. What exactly is the sonic difference when externally clocking ALL of the audio components in a system, and daisy chaining the internal clock of the mixer through a few digital sources? As an example, if I remember right, the DM2000 has multiple (I don't remember how many) clock outputs, and you might only need a single level of daisy chaining to get to all the machines. The other option is to take the clock from the console to a DA and distribute it directly. In my opinion, if the (internal and potential external) clocks are of a similar quality, distributing the internal clock of the console (advantage to the console's DAC) with a DA might be superior. Best regards, Bill |