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R/E/P => Recording - Engineering & Production => Topic started by: jranger on June 29, 2011, 05:33:37 PM
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Just as the subject says, which ones are you using... I'm curious because I would like to change headphones and there is no real standard for spl or response curves being offered by manufactureres that is one standard, i.e. sensitivity 91db m/w ... 102db aes max spl... I plan on using one for tracking and one for mixing, can't treat room so using monitors is not practical in achieving a proper picture of what is going on in the mix.. project studio, so nothing major.. ok. i'm starting to bable so long and short
guitars mainly, some bass, most everything else is samples.. need a mixing set and a tracking set(gets loud, need it loud)
currently using akg 240 mk2's and I keep blowing the capsule and I am guessing at this point, that I must have damaged the web or suspention in some way cuz compared to a pair of hd280's they have no bass, rolloff is about 60Hz bout 24db/oct...
Any input about phones that have worked for people in project studio's would be a great help.
Thanks
Jack
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If you have to mix on headphones, I can't think of anything better than the AKG240's. They don't have overhyped bass like so many headphones.
For tracking I use AKG 270's (or is it 271) for being in the engineering ballpark and for vocals. I also use Fostex T50 and T30 for everyone else. The AKG 240's have too much bleed from outside and are not loud enough for most things. Use them for some quieter overdubs.
Can't stand headphones like the Sony 7506's which have totally unrealistic overhyped bass. Other people love them.
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Sony V6.
I just bought some more from Fry's. I've used them since the mid 1980's. Only $79.
To know them is to know them.
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I use the AKG 240's myself. Recently I purchased the new Shure SHR 840's. They are a little mid forward and of course with close back they can be helpful in a noisy enviroment or just to focus on the music better without distractions. I like them better than the Audio Technica headphones. If I am listening on headphones for a while since the AKG or open backed, you feel a little more atuned to your outside enviorment.
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I'm using Beyerdynamic DT770 for vocal tracking and AKG 270S for most other tracking. For mixing I move between AKG702, and Beyerdynamic DT880. Recently I've also been doing some work with a pair of HD800 headphones, which (if you don't blanch at the price) are superb for reference checks while mixing.
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I use Sony MDR-V6 and/or 7506 for tracking as they hype the extremes and you can hear problems clearly. For mixing, when I absolutely have to use headphones, I use the Audio Technica ATH-M50 as they are more neutral and sound more like speakers than most headphones.
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Thank you for taking the time, it is appreciated.
Has anyone tried Grado? somewhere in Prestige SRxxx series, I was looking at the 2xx version of that line and they seem to be well regarded, though I am going to be going to listen to them... I would like to input if anyone has.. I know they are open back and considered a semipro item, and I would be concerned about the cables and general flimsy looking(ness) of them.... I know their line goes into the 2K$ range, but that doesn't always mean any of their product would be useful for recording purposes....
Any insight would be appreciated.... I know a few brands have been offered up... so far the sennheiser hd240 have proven to be a big dissapointment.. missing strings in a mix that are brought out by other phones, same with guitars, just not the same width of source, i.e. almost mono'd out chorus on guitars and snare that sounds like its inside
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I have a very good friend who checks the mix on his Grado headphones [I don't know the model number] before he'll commit to calling the product "done"... frankly that's never worked for me, but it works for him which is really all that is important.
Over the years I've found that the musicians in the tracking room experience less fatigue with AKG K-141 headphones than any other. The 240's, 270's, and every Sony set I've ever worked with seem to be much brighter than the K-141's and lead to "musician burnout" quite a bit quicker than when I have them in K-141's.
I hope this is of some assistance.
Peace
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Ok.. maybe a foolish question, because it would be like comparing shelf type speakers to dead hang speakers.... ok. maybe not such a good comparision, but..... essentially, I would like to get a pair of dynaudio bm12's (the sound, flatnest, impact.. etc... ) on my head! not for real, in virtuality, they would be phones... usually what you use for a control room is what you should approximate in headgear. imo... so... in a round about way.. I am asking if there is anything out there that will compare to proper console top monitors.
Figure I just set myself up ..... but... we shall see..
Again, thanks for all input in advance.
Note: I will compile a list and try and get out to listen to these if they are in the Toronto area.
Thanks again.
Jack
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I mix a heap of stuff on Grados these days. Model SR60i - about the bottom of the line, but comparable to the AKG240 in that they aren't hyped and have a good balanced range. I used 240s a few years back and liked them but I couldn't get mixes as close to being "speaker ready" as I do with the Grados now. If my current pair ever blow I'll just buy another, at that price I can't imagine anything better.
They are open-back models so that makes them next-to-useless in most tracking situations, but for mixing - great!
Dylan