Post by: Justin Fisher on January 06, 2007, 04:13:52 PM
Who is going to spend 12 grand on software?
Waves really needs an a la carte situation, where you aren't paying full price for every single plug. Like a build your own bundle deal or something.
Post by: compasspnt on January 06, 2007, 10:37:01 PM
But the Native version is only $7,500.
Post by: cerberus on January 07, 2007, 01:53:16 AM
mercury breaks down to less than $150. per plug-in for the native versions.
i think it is a fair price.
jeff dinces
Post by: Greg Thompson on January 07, 2007, 01:26:50 PM
| J. Fisher wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 21:13 |
$12,000 for the new Mercury bundle! That's a joke right? Who is going to spend 12 grand on software? Waves really needs an a la carte situation, where you aren't paying full price for every single plug. Like a build your own bundle deal or something. |
I have close to that much invested in all my plug ins.
Waves isn't much for giving out deals, are they?
BTW, if you check with your local dealer, you can get a better price than directly through the Waves web store.
Post by: cerberus on January 07, 2007, 02:06:55 PM
if one is a waves user, they do get offered special deals: usually there is a different one every month. i think this month, it's 20% off gold...
jeff dinces
Post by: zmix on January 09, 2007, 12:34:03 AM
Post by: Revolution on May 05, 2007, 04:07:10 AM
| zmix wrote on Tue, 09 January 2007 16:34 |
They certainly never appreciate in value though, do they? |
What audio gear does?
At least you wont have to take the software off to a tech.
Post by: cerberus on May 07, 2007, 03:43:41 AM
jeff dinces
Post by: zmix on May 08, 2007, 12:21:26 AM
| Revolution wrote on Sat, 05 May 2007 04:07 | ||
At least you wont have to take the software off to a tech. |
Microphones - u 47, u67
Preamps- Neve 1073 etc
Compressors - 1176 etc
Speakers (for example NS-10s go for double what I paid for mine).
Let's not even begin to talk about instruments.
Post by: Cocknose on May 08, 2007, 02:07:52 AM
I have used waves, do not own them.
I admit they seemed to sound much better then a DD plug-in.....
But, are they really worth spending 12k?
or even 6k at 50% off?
Do they really make a 6 grand change to the untrained ear?
Is it not possible to make great sounds without this huge investment?
I for one do not believe that plug-ins make enough of a difference
to spend that ungodly amount of $$$....unless you truly have the money to make it sound that much better
maybe I am wrong though
Post by: Tomas Danko on May 08, 2007, 06:51:17 AM
For a high profile studio things are different, however. Clients come in with all sorts of projects, and will complain if you do not have the same plug ins. This kind of a bundle is probably necessary in this case.
Post by: cerberus on May 12, 2007, 04:52:35 PM
a $6k daw (in addition to the computer)
a $6k equalizer
a $6k microphone
a $6k 2 track tape machine
etc.
exotic hardware tends to require regular maintanance and occasional repairs; a vintage device with blown tubes might be worth thousands, but...
software has different expenses.
jeff dinces
Post by: j.hall on July 03, 2007, 11:32:50 AM
| zmix wrote on Mon, 07 May 2007 23:21 |
Most really professional and proven gear will appreciate in value. |
MOST?????????? sorry, have to disagree there.
my ssl 384, sontec EQ, Focusrite Red3, myteck DAC, and quested monitors have not appreciated.
it's more appropriate to say, "some gear appreciates" and even that might be a stretch.
in reality, it's old gear, that has a high demand and limited supply (due to production being stopped), and even then it's not every thing that meets that statement. my symmetra peak passive limiter has certainly not appreciated.
Post by: Revolution on July 05, 2007, 11:04:06 PM
| zmix wrote on Tue, 08 May 2007 14:21 | ||||
Microphones - u 47, u67 Preamps- Neve 1073 etc Compressors - 1176 etc Speakers (for example NS-10s go for double what I paid for mine). Let's not even begin to talk about instruments. |
AHhhh yes that old chesnut.
OK
Now firstly if you considder the current cost of a vintage 1073 or U47 as "VALUE" then you may have some in who will disagree with you.
But to do some maths via my trusty inflation convertor.
http://minneapolisfed.org/research/data/us/calc/
Neve 1073 module could fetch US$4K now which is the equivilant of US$755 in 1970 when it was released.
Neumann U 47 as a guess may fetch US$10K if it's working which would be equivilant to US$1K in 1950.
1176LN blackface sold for US$2500 on ebay recently, thats US$508 in 1972.
And I wont bother mentioning the NS10s as I know a friend who gave his away.
So im assuming that no servicing was needed in the last 30 - 40 years?
Maybe someone could fill in how much these items cost when released, im guessing for a 30 year investment I would hardly call these a great return.
Now lets hear about you instruments, I think I have an old Marshall that Jimmi Hendrix pissed on at woodstock.
Post by: jetbase on July 09, 2007, 01:13:01 AM
| Revolution wrote on Fri, 06 July 2007 13:04 |
im guessing for a 30 year investment I would hardly call these a great return. |
David, just a quick point. The true return for audio gear is in the money you earn by using it, not appreciation.
Post by: Revolution on July 15, 2007, 07:06:14 AM
| jetbase wrote on Mon, 09 July 2007 15:13 | ||
David, just a quick point. The true return for audio gear is in the money you earn by using it, not appreciation. |
While I'm sure no one would disagree you have taken that quote entirly out of context of my argument which is weather audio gear will really appreciate in value.
Post by: Fox on July 16, 2007, 12:20:22 PM
Post by: PookyNMR on July 21, 2007, 11:19:51 PM
| Fox wrote on Mon, 16 July 2007 10:20 |
Fine, but you can't re-sell software. You're suck with it. |
Actually, you can sell / transfer your software license.