jdg wrote on Tue, 09 December 2008 01:09 |
this sounds really diff then the 2500. its the "old" feedback mode. the bc1 is similar to the "new" mode on the api, and i mean as similar as i am to my half-brother |
TotalSonic wrote on Tue, 09 December 2008 00:33 |
and the "new" mode on the API2500 is the one feature I almost never use! |
jdg wrote on Wed, 10 December 2008 01:23 | ||
ditto! maybe 10 times, ever. thats a big maybe. |
Matt_G wrote on Wed, 10 December 2008 08:41 | ||||
That's interesting I used to use Old mode the most until recently when I discovered that the Old mode adds like a slight smiley face EQ to the sound (beefier low mids & highs with the midrange left pretty much untouched). The New mode tends to leave the lows & highs alone but brings out the midrange a little more. It really depends on the style of music & the mix balance as to which style I use. I'm finding that New mode gets used more often than Old mode lately. Although this could also be due to the fact that when I run through analog tape that it already gives me a bit of a smiley face EQ curve so I prefer to lift the mids instead of doubling up with the Old mode on the API. The Phoenix on the other hand is just very smooth & natural without adding too much tonal shift to the equation yet it balances out the API's aggression in the mids in New mode nicely. Definitely very complimentary to work with New mode (or SSL style comp) feeding into a Vari-Mu. Matt |
jdg wrote on Wed, 10 December 2008 12:01 |
thread hijack: there is a "smiley" tone on the 2500 with the soft/normal/old "medium" is the flattest like steve said. and "loud" the darkest. i like these tonal shifts i can dial in in "old" mode. very useful for me. |
TotalSonic wrote on Tue, 27 April 2010 15:41 |
Another recently introduced relatively low priced stereo compressor that looks like it could still be of interest to ME's is the Foote Control Systems P3S - http://www.mercenary.com/fcs-p3s.html Seems to be based on the Pico compressor boards with a lot of options - including HPF, blend from RMS to Peak detection, switchable from Carnhill transformer or electronically balanced output, optional automatic release control, lots of gentle ratio choices between 1.05:1 to 2:1 (in addition to other options up to 12:1), feedback or feedforward, etc. At $1700 street price seems worthy of at least a look. Best regards, Steve Berson |
Matt_G wrote on Wed, 10 December 2008 13:41 |
That's interesting I used to use Old mode the most until recently when I discovered that the Old mode adds like a slight smiley face EQ to the sound (beefier low mids & highs with the midrange left pretty much untouched). The New mode tends to leave the lows & highs alone but brings out the midrange a little more. It really depends on the style of music & the mix balance as to which style I use. I'm finding that New mode gets used more often than Old mode lately. |
mastertone wrote on Tue, 27 April 2010 20:15 | ||
This compressor needs more attention, absolutely fantastic. Mine (Roger´s prototype)is pretty much stuck in RMS mode. |
Garrett H wrote on Tue, 27 April 2010 11:48 |
If you want an SSL - style compressor the Dramastic Audio Obsidian is the final word (IMO). However, using it for mastering would be very difficult unless you want to modify the ratios, attack, and release times. If you did that, ... look out. GH |
Garrett H wrote on Wed, 19 May 2010 12:42 |
For me, I would want a ratio of 1.1 to 1 or 1.5 to 1. The lowest it goes is 2 to 1. Honestly, I don't often compress that much. |
dcollins wrote on Wed, 19 May 2010 17:54 |
Yeah, at 1.1:1 you'd be better off in "bypass." Is that even audible? DC |
Garrett H wrote on Wed, 19 May 2010 12:42 |
For me, I would want a ratio of 1.1 to 1 or 1.5 to 1. The lowest it goes is 2 to 1. Honestly, I don't often compress that much. Attack - slowest attack is 20 ms. That's crazy too fast for some of the things I do. For example, Masterpiece's slowest fastest attack (after the 'instant' setting) is 30 ms and I'm often way past that. Release - I guess I could live with what's there. I'm always skeptical of "auto" anything, but thats more based on gut feeling rather than specific tests with this unit in a mastering context. I have no idea where it is in your chain, what material you're working on or 99 other factors. Best, GH |
Garrett H wrote on Wed, 19 May 2010 15:51 |
Given the custom Jensen transformers in this specific unit (and that the designer told me that bypass does bypass them) 1.1:1 would let you use the box for the transformers' effect. |
subvertbeats wrote on Wed, 19 May 2010 18:29 |
Looks very interesting, whats the release time range? |
jdg wrote on Thu, 20 May 2010 17:45 |
i have a the first (hopefully of many!) "mastering edition" of the FCS P3S. 20 position elma switches on the thresh, ratio and gain. its really great. really really great. the ratio has 20 steps between 1:1 and 4:1 and the make up gain doesn't go from +/- 20. it just has 0->+20 in 1dB steps. driving the carnhill transformers for effect is really controllable. im pretty stoked on it so far |
djwaudio wrote on Thu, 20 May 2010 14:12 |
... but I think John was keeping really close to the SSL model with this design. |
jdg wrote on Thu, 20 May 2010 23:45 |
i have a the first (hopefully of many!) "mastering edition" of the FCS P3S. 20 position elma switches on the thresh, ratio and gain. its really great. really really great. the ratio has 20 steps between 1:1 and 4:1 and the make up gain doesn't go from +/- 20. it just has 0->+20 in 1dB steps. driving the carnhill transformers for effect is really controllable. im pretty stoked on it so far |