Post by: TotalSonic on January 29, 2007, 07:24:30 PM
I'll start -
Finally got around to starting to take some snapshots of my room towards getting a very very overdue updating of my website taken care of soon - and figured I'd share some of the first here -
it's humbler than mosts here - but the fact that I'm not in debt and am my own boss kind of makes up for that!
The painting of the guitar (including real strings and frets tacked onto the canvas) was by my grandfather, Maurice Berson.
Best regards,
Steve Berson
Post by: Jerry Tubb on January 29, 2007, 07:54:08 PM
Cheers - JT
Post by: TotalSonic on January 29, 2007, 08:08:18 PM
| Jerry Tubb wrote on Tue, 30 January 2007 00:54 |
Nice setup Steve, |
Thanks Jerry!
| Quote: |
I see you're still using that Lucid DA too. Cheers - JT |
Yeah, one of the two matching Lavry Blues on top feeds the Coleman's inputs as direct from source, and the second feeds the process chain - so I have the Lucid as a live feed back from the DAW (including whatever digital processing I have on - or at a switch to spdif from AES of what is just after the input of the ADC directly so I can hear things with just the analog processing only).
I needed a DAC with an onboard easily settable attenuator so I could do level matches between source and processed files quickly - I've definitely been thinking of replacing it with either a Mytek Stereo96DAC or a Lavry DA-10 but other gear purchases have taken a priority to date.
Anyway - the Lucid, while being a tiny bit smeared on the faster transients than other current options, is actually holding up well pretty well to my ear otherwise despite its age (the design was made in 1999 iirc).
Best regards,
Steve Berson
Post by: mbruce333 on January 29, 2007, 08:27:47 PM
The room is the "bonus room" in a rental town house, with future plans to expand into a bigger room. The current room is on the small side, 12X15X8, but for my first set-up, I'm in Heaven!
Pretty much all the gear was new to me, purchased the same time my wife and moved into this place, so it's been a bit of a learning curve for my ears...lots of new things to get used to.
The desk was made by a friend of mine at Cascade Productions here is WA. All the acoustic treatment was made by me and has been evolving as my ears get used to this room and the new gear. With all the bass traps and absorbers, it's a little on the dry side, but the trade off in a low end response that is pretty smooth is worth it!
Let me know what you guys think!
Mike Bruce
Auricle Audio Mastering
Post by: mbruce333 on January 29, 2007, 08:29:09 PM
Post by: mbruce333 on January 29, 2007, 08:30:31 PM
Post by: Bob Boyd on January 29, 2007, 10:11:06 PM
Post by: MASSIVE Mastering on January 30, 2007, 01:50:59 AM
But this is pretty close - The day I moved into the new room (May 1st?).
I can tell because I changed out the power conditioner the next morning.
A few somewhat more current shots on the PHOTO PAGE.
Post by: mastermind on January 30, 2007, 04:02:38 AM
Werking:
and...
The analog kids:
t
Post by: Swane on January 30, 2007, 07:02:46 AM
Post by: Matt_G on January 30, 2007, 09:02:52 AM
Matt
Post by: Matt_G on January 30, 2007, 09:05:25 AM
Post by: present on January 30, 2007, 09:09:05 AM
Nice room, Matt. You're left handed? (going by the Sontec)
regards
Rogier
Post by: Matt_G on January 30, 2007, 10:00:44 AM
| present wrote on Wed, 31 January 2007 00:09 |
Talk about transparency in mastering! Nice room, Matt. You're left handed? (going by the Sontec) regards Rogier |
Thanks Rogier, actually I'm right handed but being a drummer I like to mix it up. I also use both feet at the same time to change patches with the Z-Sys & load CD's into the drives
Matt
Post by: compasspnt on January 30, 2007, 10:25:51 AM
But I know some places just don't take "good pictures." There is no way I could possible take a decent photo of my room, because there is nothing in between the speakers and the engineer chair except air...nothing to "shoot."
Post by: bblackwood on January 30, 2007, 10:35:15 AM
| compasspnt wrote on Tue, 30 January 2007 09:25 |
Hey Brad, any photos of your place? I didn't see any on your website. |
Not really - I never finished the final trim work on the room so it's a touch rough around the edges. And now we're building a new room, so I'm going to document the build from start to finish - you'll have plenty of pics soon!
Post by: Viitalahde on January 30, 2007, 11:51:30 AM
Post by: jdg on January 30, 2007, 03:53:16 PM
Funny thing since this used to the garage.. u can see the tilt of the floor in the picture.
just dont set a pencil down on the desk....
Post by: TotalSonic on January 30, 2007, 04:27:53 PM
| jdg wrote on Tue, 30 January 2007 20:53 |
i have learn more about taking fotos.. obviously way too much back light in this one. |
Looks nice John - I love the natural light you have in the room while it still looks like you have the first reflections dealt with.
But definitely photography isn't my forte either - I think I need to get a pro photographer in to do some shots as soon as there's the extra cash for one.
| Quote: |
u can see the tilt of the floor in the picture. just dont set a pencil down on the desk.... |
Yeah - same problem here - I'm in a building built circa 1900 that's floor goes all over the place - it took me a long time to get my turntable shimmed so it was flat!!
Best regards,
Steve Berson
Post by: TotalSonic on January 30, 2007, 04:56:35 PM
| compasspnt wrote on Tue, 30 January 2007 15:25 |
There is no way I could possible take a decent photo of my room, because there is nothing in between the speakers and the engineer chair except air...nothing to "shoot." |
Actually that might make for a cool pic anyway - just seeing nice monitors and wall treatments can be very cool - no need to have processors or a desk to be the focus.
Anyway - curious as to how you set processing changes then in a "pure listening" style room such as this. With remotes or smaller racks at your feet ala BK? With an assistant behind you ala Bob O. at Georgetown?
Best regards,
Steve Berson
Post by: compasspnt on January 30, 2007, 08:50:52 PM
| TotalSonic wrote on Tue, 30 January 2007 16:56 | ||
...curious as to how you set processing changes then in a "pure listening" style room such as this. With remotes or smaller racks at your feet ala BK? With an assistant behind you ala Bob O. at Georgetown? |
Hey Steve,
The rack is not that far away really, but it is out of the "magic spot." Inconveniently, I just move over and make changes. (The rack equipment is from about 3-5 feet off the ground level.) I am aware that is not ideal, but I made that choice to have the "pure listening" situation over the ability to hear changes instantaneously. The computers' controls are within reach of my right hand whilst seated.
But the real reason it works is that no one ever comes in when I am working, except for me, of course. I operate everything alone. This is not a client attended facility...everything is either my own mixing, or sent in from outside. So I have tailored the room for only me. No good looks or nice plants or lovely lighting like many others.
Just the equipment for the sound I need to achieve.
Post by: Adam Dempsey on January 30, 2007, 11:55:01 PM
Our latest pics are on our website and a few extras on MySpace. We'll be updating however, when reconfiguring the rack with the Sontec. The Lavry Blue DACs (currently at rear of the rack to make space for the Gold ADC) and other stuff will go in the side rack.
I'm loving these Duntechs and Legend subs. The big comfy couch sits on a slightly raised floor area at the rear wall, so ear level there is still with tweeters. Nicely thought out - great work by Tony here & George A. Looking forward to Room 2 (also Augspurger-designed) in the not too distant future too - it's all there, just needing finishings!
Post by: Ed Littman on January 31, 2007, 01:15:13 AM
Steve...nice sexy rack, & i dig your grandfathers art...
I hope the tracks that we did are holding up
.This weekend I'm re doing photos of my room.
Ed
Post by: dcollins on January 31, 2007, 02:43:51 AM
| compasspnt wrote on Tue, 30 January 2007 17:50 |
No good looks or nice plants or lovely lighting like many others. Just the equipment for the sound I need to achieve. |
I'll show you mine if you'll show me yours.
DC
Post by: compasspnt on February 01, 2007, 07:44:14 PM
| dcollins wrote on Wed, 31 January 2007 02:43 | ||
I'll show you mine if you'll show me yours. DC |
Well here's a small piece of mine...
Post by: J.J. Blair on February 01, 2007, 08:40:04 PM
Uncle Milty only pulled out enough to win the bet
Post by: Tomas Danko on February 02, 2007, 05:28:03 AM
Now we can scrutinize the settings and release a "Terry Manning Mastering"-preset.
Post by: Peter Beckmann on February 02, 2007, 06:06:40 AM
Ray Staff used to have those [along with one of Tims compressors] years back when he used to work at the Exchange in London.
Should we now refer to you as Terry Manley Manning?
PB
Post by: compasspnt on February 02, 2007, 10:01:10 AM
Yes indeed, Tim's stuff is spectacular. I too have one of his compressors, and I would certainly be using it in Mastering if either of two criteria were able to be met:
1) I would get a call for mono mastering
2) I would get a second 670 to match.
As for the Manley, it does a good job, but I will replace, or more likely, augment the MP with a new Lucas Mastering Series Programme Equaliser that we're working on.
In a perfect world, then I would add Tim's 825 Stereo Mastering Equaliser.
Still searching for the "perfect" analogue valve Mastering compressor, and hoping we don't have to build that as well.
Post by: Peter Beckmann on February 02, 2007, 10:47:11 AM
| compasspnt wrote on Fri, 02 February 2007 15:01 |
I would certainly be using it in Masterig if either of two criteria were able to be met: 1) I would get a call for mono mastering 2) I would get a second 670 to match. |
I LOVE that idea, the specialist MONO mastering engineer
...or use the one you have for some cool M/S compression tricks!!
PB
Post by: minister on February 02, 2007, 03:12:41 PM
| compasspnt wrote on Thu, 01 February 2007 18:44 |
that IS a tight room!
Post by: Garrett H on February 02, 2007, 06:28:58 PM
| J.J. Blair wrote on Thu, 01 February 2007 20:40 |
Terry, it reminds me of the story where somebody challenged Milton Berle to a "who's bigger" contest. Uncle Milty only pulled out enough to win the bet |
Didn't Uncle M reply to the challenger, "You go first son, then I'll pull out just enough to beat you."
I wasn't there.
Post by: Ivo on February 04, 2007, 04:40:46 PM
Main studio room:
The entrance room:
Post by: bleen on February 04, 2007, 05:45:57 PM
| compasspnt wrote on Thu, 01 February 2007 16:44 | ||
Well here's a small piece of mine... |
Gauntlet=thrown. DC's turn for the pics.
In other words:
Post by: TotalSonic on February 04, 2007, 07:09:09 PM
| bleen wrote on Sun, 04 February 2007 22:45 | ||||
Gauntlet=thrown. DC's turn for the pics. |
Nah - that's just a piece of a rack. Filled with very very nice goodies I might add but the thread title says "room" - not "rack."
DC already has a couple cryptic shots of his console (probably slightly out of date) up on his website. Think I can see an L2, a Weiss, the ol' Davelizer eq, Prism MEA2, and something that suspiciously looks like some kind of TC Finalizer.
Rumor has it that DC currently also uses the Pendulum OCL-2 on Brad's recommendation, and a TFPro P9 to Brad's disgust.
Best regards,
Steve Berson
Post by: Ben F on February 04, 2007, 08:51:32 PM
Post by: dcollins on February 04, 2007, 09:19:05 PM
| bleen wrote on Sun, 04 February 2007 14:45 |
In other words: |
Thank you Don.
http://www.collinsaudio.com/U1.jpg
http://www.collinsaudio.com/U5.jpg
DC
Post by: Phil Demetro on February 04, 2007, 10:04:07 PM
| Ivo wrote on Sun, 04 February 2007 16:40 |
My small music temple |
Such nice pictures...Even without the captions I can tell which rooms/photos are from Europe.
The cameras must run at 220V or something...?
Post by: Phil Demetro on February 04, 2007, 10:22:05 PM
messiest award for sure...
Post by: Phil Demetro on February 04, 2007, 10:23:57 PM
Post by: Phil Demetro on February 04, 2007, 10:25:48 PM
Post by: bleen on February 05, 2007, 11:24:35 AM
| dcollins wrote on Sun, 04 February 2007 18:19 | ||
Thank you Don. http://www.collinsaudio.com/U1.jpg http://www.collinsaudio.com/U5.jpg DC |
All in good fun - thanks for the pics, Dave!
Post by: Oldfart on February 05, 2007, 11:37:37 AM
| Phil Demetro wrote on Sun, 04 February 2007 22:23 |
The VMS-70 |
Phil? Those speakers are built and designed in T.O. I believe? I've been trying to get some info on them, but to no avail. Do you have a link?
If you were to list their pros and cons , what would they be?
Thank you in adavance for your reply,
Oldfart
Post by: Phil Demetro on February 05, 2007, 07:37:57 PM
| Oldfart wrote on Mon, 05 February 2007 11:37 | ||
If you were to list their pros and cons , what would they be? |
Hey Denis,
I'm proud to say Canadians make some great speakers/amps.
The ones we use here are from Steve Kranis at Audio Hardware in Toronto. He custom built the box, crossover, and the bass drivers. We selected the drivers based on our listening tests/tastes. We love 'em. Before I heard these I was looking at (dreaming of..) The big PMC's, B&W 801's and Dynaudio C4.
Maybe one day... but I'm more than good with the Kranis now.
Just like other speakers the amp is a big part. I use Bryston 4bSST's on mine and the other room uses JBL/Urei's. You could swear that you were listening to different speakers.
We selected a driver combo that gave us a good overall balance of punch, clarity, open top and not too bitey of a midrange.
I'd probably get the same ones tomorrow. I would be curious to hear how they would sound with a Classe or Chord amp.
Our is soffit-mount stule but he makes floorstanders, too.
Steve is 20 minutes away and drops in regularly to ask/give feedback.
I'm sure he has a website? His phone number is 416-288-1458.
Steve also love cars. I saw one custom pair he made with a very bright racing yellow paint. I don't know how it affected the sound but it looked good.
Post by: dave-G on February 06, 2007, 06:51:05 AM
| dcollins wrote on Sun, 04 February 2007 21:19 |
Thank you Don. http://www.collinsaudio.com/U1.jpg DC |
I see behind the couch there that you've stolen the curtain from BK's place. When were you in Florida? Should have visited -- I know some good restaurants!
-dave
Post by: bblackwood on February 06, 2007, 02:20:13 PM
| compasspnt wrote on Thu, 01 February 2007 18:44 |
Hrmm, I gotta admit, I kinda like the look of your STC-8 there...
Post by: Greg Reierson on February 06, 2007, 03:03:25 PM
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Post by: Bob Boyd on February 06, 2007, 03:30:12 PM
Post by: dcollins on February 06, 2007, 08:36:34 PM
| dave-G wrote on Tue, 06 February 2007 03:51 |
I see behind the couch there that you've stolen the curtain from BK's place. |
Dave. I thought better of you. I keep my shower curtains in the bath, where they belong. Here's a picture of my new favorite band "The Red Button" with the curtain behind just to give you a little perspective. 7.1 Megapixels, only................
http://www.notlame.com/redbuttonbio.htm
DC
Post by: compasspnt on February 06, 2007, 09:14:27 PM
| bblackwood wrote on Tue, 06 February 2007 14:20 | ||
Hrmm, I gotta admit, I kinda like the look of your STC-8 there... |
Thanks Brad.
It's got a custom mod.
Post by: Kingfisher on February 07, 2007, 04:11:25 AM
| Ivo wrote on Sun, 04 February 2007 15:40 |
My small music temple |
Hi Ivo,
Damn, those Gyrafs in your rack are looking really bold and sexy!
Post by: hnewman on February 07, 2007, 10:46:15 AM
Post by: dave-G on February 07, 2007, 11:35:49 AM
| dcollins wrote on Tue, 06 February 2007 20:36 | ||
Dave. I thought better of you. I keep my shower curtains in the bath, where they belong. Here's a picture of my new favorite band "The Red Button" with the curtain behind just to give you a little perspective. 7.1 Megapixels, only................ http://www.notlame.com/redbuttonbio.htm DC |
My apologies. Clearly, your camera's deficiency led me to a wrong conclusion. That is a fine looking curtain indeed. As you are well aware, I own a camera with 100,000 more pixels which I'd be happy to loan, in hopes of preventing any others from coming up with the same specious accusations of theft.
-dave
Post by: minister on February 07, 2007, 12:34:42 PM
| dcollins wrote on Tue, 06 February 2007 19:36 | ||
Dave. I thought better of you. I keep my shower curtains in the bath, where they belong. Here's a picture of my new favorite band "The Red Button" with the curtain behind just to give you a little perspective. 7.1 Megapixels, only................ http://www.notlame.com/redbuttonbio.htm DC |
Hey Dave,
nice theater curtain.
i KNOW Mike Ruekberg...from starting when the band i played in shared space with Rex Daisy and we did occasional gigs together...had friends in common...i knew his on again off again girlfriend...and he recommended me for a job upon his move to LA. which i turned down.
nice to see he is gittin' some good masterin' !
Post by: Andy Krehm on February 07, 2007, 02:02:43 PM
| hnewman wrote on Wed, 07 February 2007 10:46 |
New room, the other studios are still under construction, excuse the dust... |
Looking good. Nice desk, too
Post by: Ivo on February 07, 2007, 04:43:01 PM
| Kingfisher wrote on Wed, 07 February 2007 10:11 |
Hi Ivo, Damn, those Gyrafs in your rack are looking really bold and sexy! |
Not only looking, but also sounding !
Post by: dcollins on February 07, 2007, 08:48:48 PM
| minister wrote on Wed, 07 February 2007 09:34 |
Hey Dave, nice theater curtain. |
Finally, someone with taste!
| Quote: |
i KNOW Mike Ruekberg...from starting when the band i played in shared space with Rex Daisy and we did occasional gigs together...had friends in common...i knew his on again off again girlfriend...and he recommended me for a job upon his move to LA. which i turned down. nice to see he is gittin' some good masterin' ! |
The names are reversed in the photo, it's Mike on the left. But you knew that.
Fans of pop music should buy that Red Button record.
DC
Post by: Kingfisher on February 07, 2007, 11:17:36 PM
| Ivo wrote on Wed, 07 February 2007 15:43 | ||
Not only looking, but also sounding ! |
Man, look at those beasts! You're making me drool here!
By the way, I love their little hand-drawn logo and the recall sheets!
Post by: Ivo on February 08, 2007, 02:47:19 PM
| Kingfisher wrote on Thu, 08 February 2007 05:17 |
I love their little hand-drawn logo and the recall sheets! |
Actually - where did you see the recall sheets ?? It would be great to have them.
Post by: TotalSonic on February 08, 2007, 03:10:58 PM
| Ivo wrote on Thu, 08 February 2007 19:47 | ||
Actually - where did you see the recall sheets ?? It would be great to have them. |
They're here:
http://www.gyraf.dk/G10_RecallSheet.pdf
http://www.gyraf.dk/G14_RecallSheet.pdf
Was just checking out their website - the Varimu looks really nice - except no dual mono kind of makes it a lot less versatile to me.
Best regards,
Steve Berson
Post by: craig boychuk on February 08, 2007, 03:53:27 PM
What DAW(s) are you using, out of curiosity? Are those monitors for two separate workstations?
-craig
Post by: Ivo on February 08, 2007, 05:20:17 PM
| TotalSonic wrote on Thu, 08 February 2007 21:10 |
They're here: http://www.gyraf.dk/G10_RecallSheet.pdf http://www.gyraf.dk/G14_RecallSheet.pdf Was just checking out their website - the Varimu looks really nice - except no dual mono kind of makes it a lot less versatile to me. |
Thanks ! Shame I never scrolled the product page to the bottom. They are cute - like "made in a kindergarten"
No dual mono ?? This is one of the things I love the most on it. Pure stereo - not doing everything twice - like on IBIS . And there is no problem to use it on mono source ...
A true stereo EQ and compressor is a real joy
Post by: TotalSonic on February 08, 2007, 05:29:56 PM
| Ivo wrote on Thu, 08 February 2007 22:20 |
No dual mono ?? This is one of the things I love the most on it. Pure stereo - not doing everything twice - like on IBIS . And there is no problem to use it on mono source ... A true stereo EQ and compressor is a real joy |
respectfully, because I'm pretty positive based on user's reactions that the Gyraf Varimu is indeed a great sounding comp ....I disagree with the above. Having a compressor be able to optionally trigger off the L & R (or M/S) channels as seperate signals instead of always having them linked is a really nice option to have to increase the versatility of the unit as often material will sound better processed as dual mono instead of linked stereo. The API 2500 is also a comp with a single set of controls for both sides - but at least it can have the channels optionally unlinked.
Best regards,
Steve Berson
Post by: Kingfisher on February 09, 2007, 05:39:27 AM
| Ivo wrote on Thu, 08 February 2007 13:47 | ||
Actually - where did you see the recall sheets ?? It would be great to have them. |
Go to the products page on their website and scroll down
http://www.gyraf.dk/
Post by: MoreSpaceEcho on February 09, 2007, 06:16:13 PM
Post by: Jerry Tubb on February 09, 2007, 07:40:12 PM
| MoreSpaceEcho wrote on Fri, 09 February 2007 17:16 |
representing the farm team...here's a pic of my bedroom. |
Nice!
I see you subscribe to the BK/DC school of Red Curtains : - )
JT
Post by: bblackwood on February 09, 2007, 07:56:09 PM
| Jerry Tubb wrote on Fri, 09 February 2007 18:40 |
I see you subscribe to the BK/DC school of Red Curtains : - ) |
Hey man, this is NOT red. This is pink. And shiny.
And I think my back would ache after about 10 minutes fiddling with the processors...
Post by: TotalSonic on February 09, 2007, 08:32:51 PM
| bblackwood wrote on Sat, 10 February 2007 00:56 |
And I think my back would ache after about 10 minutes fiddling with the processors... |
Yeah - personally I really can't imagine be comfortable dealing with that setup for 2 hours let alone a 10 hour session - but guess it works great for BK.
I always do find that it's interesting that the guy who wrote the most read book on mastering has a number of things in his setup & methods (i.e. crossover of monitors to subs at a relatively high freq, couch instead of a chair and console, 18' length for his room, a relatively larger amount of the processing in the digital realm, and of course the K-system) that's different from about 95% of the other mastering engineers out there. But obviously he's staying busy and making his clients happy - so whatever works is great! - I just wouldn't want to have those things in my own setup.
Best regards,
Steve Berson
Post by: carlsaff on February 09, 2007, 08:32:59 PM
Soon to be even more outdated. The Dynaudio 1.3SEs will be replaced next week by a pair of cherry PMC IB1s... my Massive Passive wasn't in the desk when this was taken... the NSEQ-F will be here next week... and a Requisite L2M Mk. III and API 2500 will be in the desk by spring... so I'll be posting new pictures soon!
Post by: TotalSonic on February 09, 2007, 08:40:56 PM
| carlsaff wrote on Sat, 10 February 2007 01:32 |
The Dynaudio 1.3SEs will be replaced next week by a pair of cherry PMC IB1s... my Massive Passive wasn't in the desk when this was taken... the NSEQ-F will be here next week... and a Requisite L2M Mk. III and API 2500 will be in the desk by spring... so I'll be posting new pictures soon! |
Congratulations on the recent aquisitions Carl! Now - you gotta raise your rates before you start making all of us look bad...
Best regards,
Steve Berson
Post by: Tomas Danko on February 09, 2007, 08:57:09 PM
Post by: TotalSonic on February 09, 2007, 09:14:21 PM
| Tomas Danko wrote on Sat, 10 February 2007 01:57 |
I've figured out my tracks won't translate as good as masters without the Herman Miller Aeron chair in whatever mastering studio I go to have my work finalized. |
hee hee - good point - and I'm ashamed to admit don't have a Herman Miller here either - although definitely my next upgrade is going to be a fancy schmancy chair.
Anyway - I certainly don't make as good of processing decisions if my back is aching though!
Best regards,
Steve Berson
Post by: Bob Boyd on February 09, 2007, 10:00:12 PM
Post by: jdg on February 09, 2007, 11:23:58 PM
| Quote: |
Hey man, this is NOT red. This is pink. And shiny. |
no no pink is great.
that is salmon! (and shiny)
Post by: MoreSpaceEcho on February 10, 2007, 12:08:21 AM
| bblackwood wrote on Sat, 10 February 2007 00:56 |
And I think my back would ache after about 10 minutes fiddling with the processors... |
maybe BK uses his toes.
Post by: brett on February 10, 2007, 03:51:28 AM
| jdg wrote on Sat, 10 February 2007 04:23 | ||
no no pink is great. that is salmon! (and shiny) |
that's not salmon!!!! It's Mauve
Post by: Matt_G on February 10, 2007, 06:41:01 AM
| Tomas Danko wrote on Sat, 10 February 2007 11:57 |
I've figured out my tracks won't translate as good as masters without the Herman Miller Aeron chair in whatever mastering studio I go to have my work finalized. |
Haha yes it is more sonically transparent with all that mesh
It's also great to fart through as you don't have to lift your butt cheeks up
Post by: present on February 10, 2007, 06:47:48 AM
| brett wrote on Sat, 10 February 2007 09:51 | ||||
that's not salmon!!!! It's Mauve |
Right, let's settle this once and for all
http://www.graphviz.org/doc/info/colors.html
(I think it's maroon)
rogier
Post by: Gravity 8058 on February 10, 2007, 10:27:52 AM
| TotalSonic wrote on Fri, 09 February 2007 19:32 | ||
Yeah - personally I really can't imagine be comfortable dealing with that setup for 2 hours let alone a 10 hour session - but guess it works great for BK. I always do find that it's interesting that the guy who wrote the most read book on mastering has a number of things in his setup & methods (i.e. crossover of monitors to subs at a relatively high freq, couch instead of a chair and console, 18' length for his room, a relatively larger amount of the processing in the digital realm, and of course the K-system) that's different from about 95% of the other mastering engineers out there. But obviously he's staying busy and making his clients happy - so whatever works is great! - I just wouldn't want to have those things in my own setup. Best regards, Steve Berson |
Yeah, that occured to me as well, but Bob is a guru and very important to the audio community. I sorta imagine (I could be way off) Bob as the Berkinstock - wearing - college - professor -type.
Post by: Samc on February 10, 2007, 01:47:23 PM
| Gravity 8058 wrote on Sat, 10 February 2007 15:27 |
Bob is a guru and very important to the audio community. |
The internet seems to be overflowing with these...........................gurus
Post by: Gravity 8058 on February 10, 2007, 08:19:02 PM
| Samc wrote on Sat, 10 February 2007 12:47 | ||
The internet seems to be overflowing with these...........................gurus |
Perhaps, but it's not full of ME's that author comprehensive books on their profession.
Post by: dcollins on February 10, 2007, 09:28:54 PM
Post by: jfrigo on February 11, 2007, 03:25:24 AM
| dcollins wrote on Sat, 10 February 2007 21:28 |
Another business plan that I hadn't thought of...... |
Terribly convenient! While attending your court-ordered 12-step program, you can get married, and get it recorded, mastered, and have dubs made cheap.
Post by: DBarbarulo on February 11, 2007, 02:44:09 PM
DB
Post by: Garrett H on February 12, 2007, 11:57:08 PM
I heard all you need is a limter or a court order to be a guru.
Post by: Samc on February 13, 2007, 05:40:48 PM
| Garrett H wrote on Tue, 13 February 2007 04:57 |
I want to be a guru. |
Write a book.
Post by: dcollins on February 13, 2007, 11:53:19 PM
| Samc wrote on Tue, 13 February 2007 14:40 | ||
Write a book. |
Dang it! Now I'll never be a Guru.
DC
Post by: Matt_G on February 14, 2007, 12:12:42 AM
| DBarbarulo wrote on Mon, 12 February 2007 05:44 |
may the school of Red Curtains be extended to the bass-traps too? DB |
Great looking room there! Just one question what is that long pole thing that's protruding from the ceiling? I'm curious
Matt
Post by: DBarbarulo on February 14, 2007, 03:29:23 AM
DB
Post by: Samc on February 14, 2007, 07:09:15 AM
| dcollins wrote on Wed, 14 February 2007 04:53 | ||||
Dang it! Now I'll never be a Guru. DC |
I didn't say the book had to be well written.......or even that the information contained on its pages had to be accurate. You do howdever need to make it seem so, (accurate that is). It is also rather important that you appear to be the final authority on the subject matter to the readers.
Now go forth and convert yourself into a Guru...Grasshopper.
Hint: charts, graphs, lists and "big" words always help.......no, they're a must.
Post by: Andrew Hamilton on February 14, 2007, 12:44:05 PM
The faders have a microswitch at -infinity called "overpress for cue." This should allow me to feed the chain without the trimmers, wherever convenient/advantageous. I used a mirror to find the second reflection points and removed the underlying peg board (behind the shag carpeting on the walls) at those spots. The hypotenuse traps over the front wall corners are custom-made frames, filled with Roxul. I also removed one of the studio glass panes, which is right behind my head and filled the cavity with Roxul and covered it with burlap and also a thick, dark blue felt. My speakers are far field Duns, so I listen at 12'. This is my low end bump zone, where 808's sound full and treble on store-bought CDs finally makes sense. I had tried listening closer up, but I felt I was missing the lowest octave.
Andrew
Post by: dcollins on February 15, 2007, 01:21:44 AM
| Samc wrote on Wed, 14 February 2007 04:09 |
I didn't say the book had to be well written.......or even that the information contained on its pages had to be accurate. You do however need to make it seem so, (accurate that is). It is also rather important that you appear to be the final authority on the subject matter to the readers. Now go forth and convert yourself into a Guru...Grasshopper. |
Sam, you make it seem so easy!
I will be O Sensei in no time!
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Hint: charts, graphs, lists and "big" words always help.......no, they're a must. |
Is there any better way to describe sound than a chart?
DC
Post by: Garrett H on February 15, 2007, 02:31:53 AM
I have 5 crayons and a thesaurus. Want to do a joint venture? If so, are you doing the charts (with crayons) or am I?
Garrett
Post by: Adam Dempsey on February 15, 2007, 02:48:36 AM
sorry...
Post by: dcollins on February 15, 2007, 03:48:13 AM
| Garrett H wrote on Wed, 14 February 2007 23:31 |
DC, I have 5 crayons and a thesaurus. Want to do a joint venture? If so, are you doing the charts (with crayons) or am I? Garrett |
Unless you have suddenly become Edward Tufte, I'm thinking something else. Can you send me your crayons?
DC
Post by: Samc on February 15, 2007, 06:41:34 AM
| Garrett H wrote on Thu, 15 February 2007 07:31 |
are you doing the charts (with crayons) or am I? Garrett |
Come on guys, the charts should at least look official....use a pen.....and a ruler!
Post by: livingstone on March 05, 2007, 01:43:03 PM
just before the accoustic works starts in a few week
Post by: Andrew Hamilton on March 06, 2007, 11:35:00 AM
| Andrew Hamilton wrote on Wed, 14 February 2007 12:44 |
...I have since replaced the amp with an X-350... |
Here that is...
Less gain and more power than previous amp (X-150)
Sounds noticeably better. Pass Labs refurb., just as before.
Have also used mirrors to "site" 1st reflection/ricochet on side walls and removed the peg board and Owens Corning under the carpeting, there, and replaced with only several 2" acoustic fire bats (Roxul
Post by: tom eaton on March 07, 2007, 12:14:03 AM
Oh...sorry. Had to say something negative to make myself feel better. Still waiting for a big enough room to get my own Dunlavys.
How far back into the room is your listening position... and how much distance between you and the back wall?
-tom
Post by: Tomás Mulcahy on March 07, 2007, 06:01:20 AM
Post by: compasspnt on March 07, 2007, 10:09:42 AM
Post by: MoreSpaceEcho on March 07, 2007, 10:27:37 AM
but that could be just the thing, i dunno.
Post by: dave-G on March 07, 2007, 02:18:20 PM
... That 'day' may have been Thursday, but I digress. .
So ... How often do you have to mow it?
-dave
Post by: punisher on March 07, 2007, 07:30:22 PM
Post by: Andrew Hamilton on March 08, 2007, 03:27:28 AM
| tom eaton wrote on Wed, 07 March 2007 00:14 |
Dude, eyeryone knows the thick cables go from the amp to the speakers and the thin ones go from your gear to the amp. Your setup must sound terrible. No hospital grade outlet for your amp, either. Lame. Oh...sorry. Had to say something negative to make myself feel better. Still waiting for a big enough room to get my own Dunlavys. How far back into the room is your listening position... and how much distance between you and the back wall? -tom |
Hi Tom,
The speaker cables are from Home Depot. They are stranded 6 gauge and the mic cable interconnects are bundled in a black plastic hose. So the speaker cables _are_ thicker than the gear cables! The amp has large military-style capacitors and is balanced throughout. Yes, the SC-Vs are far field monitors. I sit about 12 feet from the tweeters. My head is a few feet from the back wall, which has a huge bass trap behind me, containing about 5 feet of Roxul
Post by: Andrew Hamilton on March 08, 2007, 03:38:16 AM
| punisher wrote on Wed, 07 March 2007 19:30 |
What I'd like to know is how much are selling that $hit per lb? |
ha. Would that I could harvest the walls.
As for the controversial carpet choice, the room is only rented, so I'm not going to change the aesthetics dramatically. Also, I'd like to keep it vintage for historical reasons. The room was built by Queen City Album (Cincinnati) for tracking in 1977. That carpet is 30 years old! I was 10! When and if I vacate, I will restore its functionality as a (vintage) tracking room. My few acoustical modifications would be beneficial for that and are invisible.
Interestingly, no one has asked about the little video camera mounted on top of the left speaker. That's an in-house surveillance camera feeding the control room (behind me). If I want to track a drum set and not have it in the iso room (also fitted with a cam), I can set it up in the mastering room. Before I built the bass trap behind the listening position, it was a large studio glass between the tracking and control rooms. That control room is still used for mixing-hat days and makes a handy machine room for the computers on mastering-hat days. The computer and digi cables go through the patch panel on the back wall of the mastering room into the control room.
Andrew
Post by: bblackwood on March 08, 2007, 07:33:00 AM
| Andrew Hamilton wrote on Thu, 08 March 2007 02:27 |
The amp has large military-style capacitors and is balanced throughout. |
You sure about that? I'm pretty sure none of Nelson's design are fully-differential...
Post by: compasspnt on March 08, 2007, 09:39:57 AM
But shouldn't you also place a tiny camera on the right monitor, to "keep them in balance?"
Post by: Jerry Tubb on March 10, 2007, 01:18:30 AM
It looks & sounds much different now : - )
JT
Post by: Matt_G on March 10, 2007, 05:40:11 AM
Post by: Gold on March 10, 2007, 07:23:57 AM
Post by: compasspnt on March 10, 2007, 01:16:42 PM
Post by: Jerry Tubb on March 10, 2007, 03:57:56 PM
A cherry Mac 275, original tubes iirc.
We were using the rig to shoot tones & noise in the room, listening for modes.
and of course some enjoyable nostalgic listening.
Thought of upgrading the drivers and rebuilding the crossovers...
The room was a great reverb chamber at the time.
JT
Post by: Andrew Hamilton on March 13, 2007, 11:38:44 PM
| bblackwood wrote on Thu, 08 March 2007 07:33 | ||
You sure about that? I'm pretty sure none of Nelson's design are fully-differential... |
Hi Brad,
This is one of his SuperSymmetry amps.
From the manual:
"The supersymmetric amplifier is a special subset of balanced amplifiers... Supersymmetry is an approach that truly takes advantage of balanced operation like no other and requires a balanced input to retain the precisely matched behavior. Supersymmetry is ideally used to obtain high quality performance from very simple circuit topologies... The supersymmetry topology does not use operational amplifiers as building blocks, nor can it be represented with operational amplifiers. It has two negative inputs and two positive outputs and consists of two matched gain blocks coupled at one central point where the voltage is ideally zero. The topology is unique in that at this point, the distortion contributed by each half appears out of phase with the signal, and we use this to reinforce the desired signal and cancel noise and distortion. This occurs mutually between the two halves of the circuit, and the result is signal symmetry with respect to both the voltage and current axis, and antisymmetry for distortion and noise. This means that the distortion and noise of each half appears identically and cancels."
_andrew
Post by: Andrew Hamilton on March 13, 2007, 11:43:11 PM
| compasspnt wrote on Thu, 08 March 2007 09:39 |
shouldn't you also place a tiny camera on the right monitor, to "keep them in balance?" |
Actually, the right speaker stays level with the left, even though there's no camera on top of the right speaker. (); Fortunately it's so small as to be acoustically transparent - even more so than the Dunlavy grill cloth, which I leave off, for visual impact. (:
_andrew