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Title: ALTA MODA (yes, it is audio....)
Post by: Alécio Costa - Brazil on June 20, 2008, 07:02:13 PM
Has anyone hadthe opportunity to use one of this?
http://www.altamodaaudio.com/unicomp.html
Title: Re: ALTA MODA (yes, it is audio....)
Post by: TotalSonic on June 20, 2008, 07:05:57 PM
I believe Chad Clark who uses one at Silver Sonya - http://www.silversonya.com - was highly complimentary of it - maybe you could email him for his thoughts on it.  The NYC dealer for them is Joel at Ecstatic Electric - if you get in touch with him perhaps he can arrange for info or if come to the States even a demo - http://www.ecstaticelectric.com

Other than that I've never heard the unit.

Best regards,
Steve Berson
Title: Re: ALTA MODA (yes, it is audio....)
Post by: Matt_G on June 20, 2008, 07:59:17 PM
Yep I've got one sitting in the studio on demo right now. I'll paste the review I did for the distributor.

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Firstly it’s very well made, the look & feel of the unit is first class & gives you a sense of confidence in it’s build quality. It is a nice sounding unit & offers a wide range of options making it very versatile (like the swiss army knife of compression options!). I like the blend function (parallel compression) this to me was the most transparent way to use this unit for mastering. I also liked all the S.C. filter options & the soft/hard knee switch was very useful as was the f.fwd & f.back modes. Ok so there was a lot to like about this unit now onto the things I disliked...

For mastering I found the compression quite obvious even with light gain reduction. Without the blend function I wouldn't find the Unicomp suitable for mastering. The drive function which adds 2nd order harmonics to the signal I could see as being a useful function for tracking or mixing if you wanted to dirty up the signal or add some distortion to drums etc. for mastering it wasn’t subtle enough to be useful, even only adding a little was obvious & the character of the distortion isn't a pleasant affect so this limits it's usefulness.

The other issue I had was the amount of infinitely variable pots, which wouldn’t make it practical for recall in a mastering environment. Even if all the pots had fine resolution steps or switches it would be very time consuming to document all the various settings & options that are on this unit. As for the sound I found it a little time consuming to dial in & the results were satisfactory but mostly a bit too obvious for mastering use.

In conclusion I feel that this would make an excellent tracking & mixing compressor. Having the dual mono controls allows you to have 2 totally independent compressors for tracking or mix down. The options would all be very useful & would make it a very versatile choice if it was to be your only compressor. The blend & drive functions would make for a killer drum bus compressor & a nice bus compressor to mix into. For mastering I think there's better options.


Title: Re: ALTA MODA (yes, it is audio....)
Post by: masterhse on December 08, 2008, 06:44:49 AM
I have one in the studio now for evaluation. Will post my observations/opinions if anyone is interested ...
Title: Re: ALTA MODA (yes, it is audio....)
Post by: Alécio Costa - Brazil on December 10, 2008, 07:47:09 PM
Cool.
Using Alta Moda, (In portuguese means High Fashion) you may become a model.
Surprised
Title: Re: ALTA MODA (yes, it is audio....)
Post by: djwaudio on December 10, 2008, 07:54:59 PM
masterhse wrote on Mon, 08 December 2008 03:44

I have one in the studio now for evaluation. Will post my observations/opinions if anyone is interested ...


How are you liking it Tom?
Title: Re: ALTA MODA (yes, it is audio....)
Post by: masterhse on December 13, 2008, 09:10:52 AM
djwaudio wrote on Wed, 10 December 2008 19:54

masterhse wrote on Mon, 08 December 2008 03:44

I have one in the studio now for evaluation. Will post my observations/opinions if anyone is interested ...


How are you liking it Tom?


There are some very cool features with this comp.

I was initially thinking that it might replace my STC-8 mainly due to the versatility of the unit over what the STC-8 is capable of and that they are both basically transparent types of compressors, so why have two of the same? Instead I've found this comp to be very useful being used in tandem with another comp. For example using the blend feature and turning the Alta Moda into a parallel compressor (small ratio maybe 2:1 and attack/release to taste) subtly bringing up the lower level of the music while letting another comp take care of the upper transient portion.

Some other very nice features are switchable RMS/Peak modes, threshold knee control, feedforward/feedback, several built-in filters for sidechain control, and a drive feature (2nd harmonic distortion) similar to the color control of a Crane Song Ibis in purpose, though it sounds very different.

Initially I wasn't planning on using this unit for a real session because it was only on trial, but the results that I was getting made me reconsider as I'm convinced that I will be adding this unit to my collection.

The only bad thing that I can say about it so far is that the only knob which has detents is the output. I had my dealer speak to the designer about this but he is reluctant to adding them. I feel that the knobs are very wide however (unlike the variable threshold control of the STC-8 which I can't move past 1) and do not feel that it's a major issue given the benefits of the unit. Some may find the unit a bit more "tweaky" than others because it is so feature rich, but once you get used to how each function sounds it's what makes it so versatile and powerful.

I recommend that anyone looking for a new comp check it out:
http://www.altamodaaudio.com/unicomp.html
Title: Re: ALTA MODA (yes, it is audio....)
Post by: masterhse on December 13, 2008, 09:17:09 AM
Al
Title: Re: ALTA MODA (yes, it is audio....)
Post by: Alécio Costa - Brazil on December 13, 2008, 12:10:10 PM
I don't remember about this Chevy Situation. Rolling Eyes
Title: Re: ALTA MODA (yes, it is audio....)
Post by: djwaudio on December 13, 2008, 02:28:06 PM
Hey Tom,
Care to post a sound sample comparing some of your other compressors and the Alta? Wink
I've always used opto & VCA  compressors for mastering, but have wanted to try a FET. Thanks for the review.
Title: Re: ALTA MODA (yes, it is audio....)
Post by: masterhse on December 14, 2008, 09:13:42 AM
Al
Title: Re: ALTA MODA (yes, it is audio....)
Post by: masterhse on December 14, 2008, 09:24:18 AM
djwaudio wrote on Sat, 13 December 2008 14:28

Hey Tom,
Care to post a sound sample comparing some of your other compressors and the Alta? Wink
I've always used opto & VCA  compressors for mastering, but have wanted to try a FET. Thanks for the review.


Dana-

I would be happy to but I'm not sure how to conduct a demo like this. There are soo many variables it's difficult to create A/B comparisons with a comp like one may do with a microphone. For example how do you setup an STC-8 and LTD-2 to have the same ratio? If you have any ideas on how a comparison can be done let me know.

If interested, PM me and I can hook you up with my dealer so that he can send one out to you for trial.

Best,
Tom
Title: Re: ALTA MODA (yes, it is audio....)
Post by: tom eaton on December 14, 2008, 02:05:16 PM
Off topic, but there used to be yearly "Nova Awards" for products with the worst names when translated.  My favorite, back in the day when Pepsi was "the choice of a new generation," was a particular translation (Japanese, I believe): "Pepsi brings your ancestors back from the grave."

Back to your regularly scheduled compression.

t

Title: Re: ALTA MODA (yes, it is audio....)
Post by: djwaudio on December 14, 2008, 03:03:02 PM
Hey Tom,
There's no way that I know of to isolate all of the variables when comparing devices, including the not so trivial issues of how gear interfaces in a chain. As you suggest, getting a demo is the way to go. I'm not ready to start bringing gear in at this point, since I spent the kings ransom on Prism converters last week. Wink Thanks anyway.

For a little compressor wine tasting, however, it needn't be totally scientific. Dial up a little tasty compression on a track that you think sounds good, with each box, level match as close as you can by ear, then print. The goal being getting the gist of the box's characteristic sound.

I would think a key in the sample making would be using only one box in line at a time to get a sense of the sonic footprint of the path.
Title: Re: ALTA MODA (yes, it is audio....)
Post by: Alécio Costa - Brazil on December 14, 2008, 10:40:29 PM

off-topic:
Tom, probably this Chevy issue was more related to spanish spoken countries. But we have a soda called Pitchulinha, which would never be released in chile, where it means "little dick". Smile


Adam indicated this model:
One more for the road!
http://www.vertigosound.com/
Title: Re: ALTA MODA (yes, it is audio....)
Post by: TotalSonic on December 14, 2008, 11:22:45 PM
Al
Title: Re: ALTA MODA (yes, it is audio....)
Post by: masterhse on December 15, 2008, 07:24:27 AM
Al
Title: Re: ALTA MODA (yes, it is audio....)
Post by: masterhse on December 15, 2008, 07:32:37 AM
djwaudio wrote on Sun, 14 December 2008 15:03

For a little compressor wine tasting, however, it needn't be totally scientific. Dial up a little tasty compression on a track that you think sounds good, with each box, level match as close as you can by ear, then print. The goal being getting the gist of the box's characteristic sound.

I would think a key in the sample making would be using only one box in line at a time to get a sense of the sonic footprint of the path.


Dana -

Maybe the best way to demonstrate would be to have a version of the original file and some of the different settings on the unicomp rather than compare to another comp?
Title: Re: ALTA MODA (yes, it is audio....)
Post by: djwaudio on December 15, 2008, 01:21:03 PM
That could be interesting. Have the reference track available as your control, running through the converter loop without the compressor? Say one compressed normally and another with the blend control, another with the side-chain filter engaged, etc.?

That's how we did our compressor shootout way back when. It was pretty consistent with how I experienced the various units in production.

Of coarse this sounds like a bunch of work...
Title: Re: ALTA MODA (yes, it is audio....)
Post by: masterhse on December 16, 2008, 05:44:28 AM
djwaudio wrote on Mon, 15 December 2008 13:21

That could be interesting. Have the reference track available as your control, running through the converter loop without the compressor? Say one compressed normally and another with the blend control, another with the side-chain filter engaged, etc.?

That's how we did our compressor shootout way back when. It was pretty consistent with how I experienced the various units in production.

Of coarse this sounds like a bunch of work...


Hey Dana,

I'll try to do rhis within the next week, I'm a bit slammed ar the moment. Do you have a track that you want to donate?
Title: Re: ALTA MODA (yes, it is audio....)
Post by: djwaudio on December 17, 2008, 02:30:12 PM
I just finished working on a record with some really great guys. I'll see if they'll give permission to use the track for compressor wine-tasting purposes.
Title: Re: ALTA MODA (yes, it is audio....)
Post by: YZ on December 20, 2008, 03:36:59 AM
masterhse wrote on Sun, 14 December 2008 12:13

Al
Title: Re: ALTA MODA (yes, it is audio....)
Post by: compasspnt on December 20, 2008, 08:53:29 AM
Those Snopes people ruin everything, don't they?

Title: Re: ALTA MODA (yes, it is audio....)
Post by: Alécio Costa - Brazil on December 20, 2008, 09:04:07 AM
Pinto also means little chicken or old slang for little dick.