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R/E/P => Mastering Dynamics => Topic started by: bblackwood on April 05, 2011, 08:58:06 PM

Title: 'Loudness Authority' - thoughts?
Post by: bblackwood on April 05, 2011, 08:58:06 PM

http://www.tcelectronic.com/tcelectronic-rome-event.asp

Yah, ignore the terrible name, what are your thoughts on this concept?

How it works: http://www.atsc.org/cms/standards/a_85-2009.pdf

Title: Re: 'Loudness Authority' - thoughts?
Post by: Greg Reierson on April 05, 2011, 09:33:30 PM

There's a good discussion over on GS right now. Quoting myself: "It does not dictate in any way how you make or listen to music. All it does is give the listener and/or broadcaster a tool to deal with huge volume swings from one source to another without having to resort to processing.

For broadcast it offers a huge sound quality improvement over the current methods of ensuring volume consistency."


GR

Title: Re: 'Loudness Authority' - thoughts?
Post by: bblackwood on April 05, 2011, 09:59:09 PM

I'm wondering how it might work in the context of consumer playback systems...

Title: Re: 'Loudness Authority' - thoughts?
Post by: Greg Reierson on April 05, 2011, 10:22:40 PM

If we're talking about file based media players, it will be similar in concept to Sound Check in iTunes, but with a more sophisticated loudness measurement algorithm. Video and broadcast is more complex (and well above my pay grade) but our little world of music reproduction should be fairly straight forward.

Does anyone know what music streamers like Pandora use?


GR

Title: Re: 'Loudness Authority' - thoughts?
Post by: DOMC on April 05, 2011, 11:25:32 PM

hehehe quoting the poster above
http://mixonline.com/mixline/reierson_loudness_war_0802/

Title: Re: 'Loudness Authority' - thoughts?
Post by: Hermetech Mastering on April 06, 2011, 12:16:46 AM

The conference looks extremely interesting, and I'll be living in Italy by then, so I signed up for it. Maybe see some of you there?

I don't really know what I think about standards for loudness right now, I'll need to research these two new standards fully before I feel qualified to comment, but I do feel that being able to say "Well, that was mastered far too loud because it was WAY over the 'standard'", may give us a powerful tool to help overcome the ridiculous way things are with some music now.

And Greg, that was a great article in Mix!

Title: Re: 'Loudness Authority' - thoughts?
Post by: Larry Elliott on April 06, 2011, 03:17:35 AM

I have been experimenting with the new EBU R128 system with classical music and find it very useful. Using this concept for matching broadcast levels will be a great plus. I am not sure how it will be accepted by the musical community so will await the outcome of this conference with interest.