myNameIsGeorge wrote on Thu, 07 February 2008 16:45 |
guys, I will be shot for this (or JJ takes a plane with his submixing-desk shotgun and have a short visit at my house) but your whole system has some problems.. it doesn't matter who will become the next president... remember the dead-presidents, that wanted to change something. JJ.. it's not hillary. the problem is way deeper.. but you don't see the big picture because you are living in the US. this is not my problem, but I'm glad I'm out of this shit. it looks more like carneval or a bad hollywood-movie rather than a serious election. cheers some additionals: did you ever thought about who is borrowing the US money for their depth? did you ever thought about who earns the interest of this money? |
John Ivan wrote on Thu, 07 February 2008 16:21 |
However,, you are starting to sound like GWB to me.. ONLY YOU can see the truth.. |
John Ivan wrote on Thu, 07 February 2008 19:21 |
cheers I'll ad that anyone who claims that 'it doesn't matter who the next president is', is either not paying attention, OR, isn't smart enough. Period.. I'm sick of it. So, I'll say it.. What you typed above is plain old fucking stupid.. It's really pretty amazing.. Ivan................... |
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We're not just electing a president, we're choosing a whole administration, and parties do matter. A Democratic president means a Democratic Attorney General, a Democratic EPA, a Democratic Dep't of Education and on down the line. And, most important, it will affect the composition of the SUpreme Court. And George- If you think it doesn't matter to you, you're kidding yourself. |
myNameIsGeorge wrote on Fri, 08 February 2008 02:14 |
want to act like an idol, bringing peace and freedom to other countrys. |
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It makes me angry, that the US has one of the most fukked up economical, medical, politicalsystems... |
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JP Morgan is not lending us money. They act as one of the brokers for the 57% of the debt that is owned publicly. It just so happens that the majority of that debt is being sold to Arab nations, and China. The other 43% is held in bonds |
MDM, wrote on Fri, 08 February 2008 11:56 |
http://www.save-a-patriot.org/files/view/whofed.html this is an interesting read |
Jon Hodgson wrote on Fri, 08 February 2008 06:14 | ||
Interesting.. but basically bollocks http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/3616/flaherty5.h tml |
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Rothschild Banks of London and Berlin Lazard Brothers Banks of Paris Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy Warburg Bank of Hamburg and Amsterdam Lehman Brothers of New York Kuhn, Loeb Bank of New York Chase Manhatten Bank Goldman, Sachs of New York. |
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There really are people here who want the best for their fellow Americans AND the rest of the world.. There are people running for President who understand that a National health care system, for instance, would be GOOD for our Country. They don't care that certain special interest corporations don't like it.What concerns them is the welfare of the people.. They understand that by making as many lives as possible better they make their lives better.. |
MDM, wrote on Fri, 08 February 2008 12:51 | ||||||
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MDM, wrote on Fri, 08 February 2008 12:51 |
Jon, as usual you use logic but logic only works 100% when you have ALL the data.. |
MDM, wrote on Fri, 08 February 2008 12:51 |
neither you or I have all the info.. perhaps SOME people who are working closely with the major shareholders (from YOUR link) have a BETTER idea of how decisions are ACTUALLY taken in regards to the generation of money and debt... |
MDM, wrote on Fri, 08 February 2008 12:51 |
but you and I cannot use logic, we can only interpret because we do not know what's going on.. |
MDM, wrote on Fri, 08 February 2008 12:51 |
BUT we DO know that the prime players in the FED reserve game are old-world bankers |
MDM, wrote on Fri, 08 February 2008 12:51 |
we DO know that the majority of the major wars including WWII were MADE POSSIBLE by the people in the above organizations and the like.. |
MDM, wrote on Fri, 08 February 2008 12:51 |
we DO know that the constitution strictly forbids Reserve Banking because it's OBVIOUS implications in regards to inflation. |
MDM, wrote on Fri, 08 February 2008 12:51 |
we DO know that ever since america got off the gold standard there has been rising inflation with NO actual REGULATION OF THE VALUE OF MONEY. |
MDM, wrote on Fri, 08 February 2008 15:42 |
Jon, in the corporate and banking world an agreement does not have to be written down for everyone to see. |
MDM, wrote on Fri, 08 February 2008 15:42 |
the whole concept of reserve banking was pushed by and invented by people who earn money from getting governments to spend.. |
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I hope we learned our lesson over the last 8 years because one more set of dumb asses like these ass clowns in the executive branch, could ruin us for good..Yes, it's that serious. But getting the average American to understand this is NOT easy.. |
rnicklaus wrote on Fri, 08 February 2008 21:27 |
3 words - Biraq Hussein Osama |
myNameIsGeorge wrote on Fri, 08 February 2008 12:23 |
who is studjiojimmy? |
studiojimi wrote on Fri, 08 February 2008 17:34 | ||
George Necrophiliacs new worst mispelled nightmare |
MDM, wrote on Fri, 08 February 2008 08:01 | ||
John, if money weren't involved I would agree with you. unfortunately it is, and there will be a lot of very HAPPY corporations involved in any government-controlled health-care system.. the government will take more money from the citizens to pay for the healthcare, it will take a part of that money to pay the people who organize the heath-care system, another part will be given to corporations which will manufacture the goods once they get contracts from the governments, another part will go into phantom offices which are put there to earn a bit off money etc. etc.. if you look at the MAJOR supporters of politicians in terms of cash, you will see much corporate influence.. there is nothing more that the corporate crowd would love to see than a government which ASSURES them work-contracts with 'flexible' terms.. in a free market society the only way to regulate prices and quality successfully is through OPEN COMPETITION . if people weren't so poor they could take care of themselves. a socialist government in america would only put the corporations at the helm of the government.. their only desire is to provide permanent services to be paid for with the IMMENSE and UNLIMITED pool of money which comes from taxation. |
John Ivan wrote on Fri, 08 February 2008 19:40 | ||||
Ohh,, my.. Ouch |
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There should be no problem with a couple Guys/Gals starting a business that bids and gets Government contracts.. |
MDM, wrote on Sat, 09 February 2008 14:37 |
you don't seem to understand that big business only exists to make money, and as corporations they are legally bound to do anything within their power to increase earnings.. |
MDM, wrote on Sat, 09 February 2008 16:31 |
tax cuts, public relations .. that's why corps. give away money. |
MDM, wrote on Sat, 09 February 2008 16:31 |
COKE earns billions. |
MDM, wrote on Sat, 09 February 2008 16:31 |
as far as the 19th century, the reason for the change was the industrial revolution, which initially impoverished but after a transition period created wealth. |
myNameIsGeorge wrote on Fri, 08 February 2008 23:43 |
he loves me. btw, why are you still paying income tax? you don't have a law for it.. |
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and JJ, the US had more money from Hitler than the swiss ever had in the 2nd WW. they were financing his rise and fall.. we are talking about bankiers right now, not the governement. union banking corp.. the US oilindustrie gave hitler an additive (oil liquid) for his airplanes to fly. |
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we might have bunker a lot of gold, so we were not beeing kept from the NAZIs, but you were fighting and supporting him at the same time. what is more stupid? (or may I ask: what is more rentable). the grandfather of George W. Bush was the CEO and shareholder of this bank. now you will say: "Uh George, you have surfed the internet too much".. no, JJ. there was an investigation during the 2.WW and the union banking corp had to freeze this money for a certain time. now you have a new order: vesting order 248 |
MDM, wrote on Sat, 09 February 2008 20:10 |
there are no morals in banking.. |
J.J. Blair wrote on Sat, 09 February 2008 20:51 |
Hmmm. "There's no morals in banking." I thought it was, "There's no crying in baseball." OK, how about this: The love of money is the root of all evil. Has a nice ring to it, no? |
J.J. Blair wrote on Sat, 09 February 2008 21:14 |
You're right. It's not true. There IS crying in baseball. |
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In fact, the importance of invading Serbia and the Caucasus was to take the oil fields, and US Banks were not allowed to do business with German companies. Stop reading those comic books, George. |
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You pay taxes there in ways you are not aware of. |
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When you say "you," if you mean the US, then you are wrong. Individuals with Nazi sympathies did, and they paid the price for it. It's called "trading wit the enemy" and it was illegal. And Prescot Bush was a bank board member, not a CEO. I take it that you don't know how a bank board works. I'm not defending Bush, but the board has nothing to do with the operations of the bank. Please get your facts straight, when trying to vilify this country. Regardless, as I said, the Swiss laundered the gold that was taken out of the teeth of concentration camp victims, as well as the money taken from their bank accounts. And then, your banks refused to give the money back to the survivors. End of story. |
myNameIsGeorge wrote on Sat, 09 February 2008 22:41 |
oh..the threadtopic was about hillary.. hm.. what happend to her universal healthcare plan? people should remember better what she was standing for in the past and what she is doing now.. it's terrible.. |
myNameIsGeorge wrote on Sat, 09 February 2008 14:37 | ||
that is simply not true.. |
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I know how a bank work. you dont get how your system work as it seems to me. Bush had very big influence in this decision. get YOUR book right. As for my part, I am an Auslander. I think my knowledge of US-history is quite ok. please try to remember your past JJ |
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in my next life, I will be lawyer too.. and then learn how a bank work.. and then become a family member of the Rothschild-clan... I hope they like longhaired heavy-metal guys ruling the world. my first move: rock n roll for everyone.. and some historybooks for JJ oh, and I will get more english-lessons as soon as I rule the world. |
Jon Hodgson wrote on Sat, 09 February 2008 16:16 | ||
shit! really? Now there goes another one of my happy delusions |
Barry Hufker wrote on Sat, 09 February 2008 21:12 |
I'm sorry, there IS crying in baseball. This is true: at different times in my father's life, my life and my son's, we have all been seriously smacked in the nose by a baseball. All three of these incidents required serious medical attention. Trust me, I cried. It hurt like a sonuvabitch. My son cried too -- first game of T-ball he played. Dad, I don't know -- he was in the Navy playing catcher without a mask. He went to catch the ball but his face caught the bat instead. |
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You know, when I point out where you are wrong in audio, I'm not being mean. But today, I'm going to tell you that you are an idiot. And it's the worst kind of idiot, because you think you know more than you actually do. And what makes you look even more idiotic is the certainty with which you proclaim your misinformation. |
Jon Hodgson wrote on Sun, 10 February 2008 00:03 | ||
I don't know what it looked like before, but was it anything like this one ? http://www.hillaryclinton.com/feature/healthcareplan/ |
myNameIsGeorge wrote on Sun, 10 February 2008 10:19 | ||||
she wanted to have universal healthcare, when mr. Clinton was president. she is paid now by the Kaiser guys and just passed this great idea. congrat. |
danickstr wrote on Sun, 10 February 2008 07:07 |
It never reflects well on a person to lose their temper. At least not in print on an archivable server. |
MDM, wrote on Sun, 10 February 2008 13:16 |
interesting. so who financed the rise to power of Hitler? were they involved during that time-period? BTW is it true that the Germans were forced into the war because other countries were boycotting german goods? |
John Ivan wrote on Sun, 10 February 2008 19:24 | ||
George, I'm thinkin' you better get used to the idea that we Americans are a bunch of evil bastards and we are coming to get you!!! We are a Horrible people with bad intentions.. We as Americans spend all our time trying to figure out how to make your life a living hell.. there is not one normal person among us.. Hillary Clinton is holding talks with GWB an Obama as we speak in an effort to find you and have you jailed.. Then, as you know, we are going to Cook and Eat you.. Just like we do everyone else.. You knew all this already though, apparently Ivan................... |
J.J. Blair wrote on Sun, 10 February 2008 17:28 |
George, you never answered the question which I asked twice: Have you ever been to the US? |
MDM, wrote on Sun, 10 February 2008 10:16 |
interesting. so who financed the rise to power of Hitler? were they involved during that time-period? |
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BTW is it true that the Germans were forced into the war because other countries were boycotting german goods? |
J.J. Blair wrote on Sun, 10 February 2008 20:29 |
I'm embarrassed by my president. I'm embarrassed by many of the ignorant people that live here. But I'm proud of my country and the principles for which we are intended to stand. |
myNameIsGeorge wrote on Mon, 11 February 2008 04:42 |
Australia had a law, that no blackman is allowed to live there or move in. that was in 1971 when they dismissed that law, if I am right (have to read it again). |
myNameIsGeorge wrote on Sun, 10 February 2008 14:42 |
I would be proud of any country that has a good balance of controlling people, giving people freedom/good social-security and confidence, governement is more or less transparent and make sense. we are all humans, not inhabitants of diffrent countries. cheers |
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Until recent years, racist policies and practices were also embedded within Australian laws and institutions. The most telling examples of these were the removal of Aboriginal children from their families and the denial of full citizenship rights to Aboriginal people and Torres Strait Islander people. Similarly, the White Australia policy aimed to restrict immigration by people from non-European backgrounds. Historically, rises in unemployment have often led to calls for immigration restrictions and in some cases led to the scapegoating of people who were seen to be different to members of the dominant culture. While legislation now exists to protect the rights of all citizens, there is a continuing legacy today from the effects of these racist practices. |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Australia_policy |
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The inauguration of White Australia as government policy is generally taken to be the passage of the Immigration Restriction Act in 1901, very soon after Australian federation. The policy was dismantled in stages by successive governments after the conclusion of World War II, with the encouragement of first non-British and later non-white immigration. From 1973 on, the White Australia policy was for all practical purposes defunct, and in 1975 the Australian government passed the Racial Discrimination Act, which made racially-based selection criteria illegal. |
myNameIsGeorge wrote on Sun, 10 February 2008 11:42 | ||
I have no problem that you are proud, I think patrotism and idiotism are a thin line. |
J.J. Blair wrote on Mon, 11 February 2008 10:38 | ||||
Now you are putting words in my mouth; I don't equate national pride with patriotism. And there are many types of patriotism. I consider some of the people who have challenged the authority of our government to be some of our greatest patriots. Or as I said in a sign that I had in front of my house during the lead up to the invasion of Iraq: "Blind faith in bad leadership is not patriotic." |
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I've spent a few days listening to AM talk radio recently, and I can't tell you how horrified I am about the COMPLETE obfuscation of any distinction or delineation between the two notions that the ass-clowns on there are peddling. |
ssltech wrote on Mon, 11 February 2008 10:35 |
the COMPLETE obfuscation of any distinction or delineation between the two notions that the ass-clowns on there are peddling. Keith |
studiojimi wrote on Mon, 11 February 2008 14:51 |
and should we just throw out "one nation under God"??? |
rnicklaus wrote on Mon, 11 February 2008 17:30 | ||
You do know this was added in the '50's under Eisenhower, correct? <<Eisenhower was instrumental in the addition of the words "under God" to the Pledge of Allegiance in 1954, and the 1956 adoption of "In God We Trust" as the motto of the US, and its 1957 introduction on paper currency.>> |
Barry Hufker wrote on Mon, 11 February 2008 15:36 | ||||
And your point would be... |
rnicklaus wrote on Mon, 11 February 2008 15:39 | ||||||
Just making sure that when someone refers to one nation under God, that everyone knows where it came from. Simple as that. |
PRobb wrote on Tue, 12 February 2008 14:02 |
Christian in the same sense that Iran is Muslim? Absolutely not. But that's what Huckabee and the religious right is talking about. |
fiasco wrote on Tue, 12 February 2008 23:32 | ||
This is an honest question, can one be anything but a Muslim in Iran? |
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... but it's not quite as bad as some people would have you believe... |
Kris wrote on Wed, 13 February 2008 08:22 |
This is the best political thread I've ever stumbled into... I think I learned something from you arrogant bastards |
studiojimi wrote on Thu, 14 February 2008 12:16 |
CAPTION THIS PICTURE ANYONE? |
danickstr wrote on Thu, 14 February 2008 17:38 |
What asshole photoshopped a cigarette in the mouth of the presidential nominee that is twice as intelligent as our current p[resident? Howz that for a caption? |
studiojimi wrote on Fri, 15 February 2008 07:07 | ||
i don't have photoshop |
Tomas Danko wrote on Fri, 15 February 2008 01:30 | ||||
Are you implying that you are an asshole? Hey, just because you don't have Photoshop it doesn't have to mean you didn't do it using some other piece of software! |
studiojimi wrote on Fri, 15 February 2008 18:19 | ||||||
only an asshole would imply that i'm implying that i'm an asshole. |