Post by: bblackwood on October 05, 2007, 09:15:43 AM
I flew in yesterday (Thursday) and walked around a bit - it's been two years since I visited NYC, and while I've been here close to a dozen times now, I'm always amazed at the energy this city has. Anyway, I hooked up with mcsnare and checked out Scott Hull's new mastering room - it's nicely finished, cozy but not small and it sounds good - the best I've heard Duntechs. Jan Folkson and Joe Yannecce also work in the same space, so it has a nice communal vibe.
The exhibition floor opens in about three hours. I'll wait for dave-g to land and get settled before I start walking about the floor, so that, combined with my hotel having internet problems (I'm currently in a coffee shop using their wifi) means that updates will happen either via my iPhone or as I can grab time in a wifi hotspot (historically there are none at the AES exhibition hall).
Cheers, more later.
Post by: cerberus on October 05, 2007, 05:50:50 PM
rx has become essential to my work as a mastering engineer.
it is very exciting to be able to help birth new technology
which i think should improve the collective sound of
our industry's product on average. i think that even
cedar users may be impressed. rx is very clean.
show attendees may try rx at booth 466.
jeff dinces
Post by: Barry Hufker on October 05, 2007, 06:01:35 PM
Barry
Post by: cerberus on October 05, 2007, 06:34:12 PM
wrong sample rate. i'll report it to izotope. thanks barry!
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| bblackwood wrote on Fri, 05 October 2007 09:15 |
the best I've heard Duntechs. |
dunlavy. just a coincidentally similar name like masselec/massenburg?
please update on elysia. and what is up with burgess from sontec?
imo the world is starving for more truly musical eqs at any price.
jeff dinces
Post by: TotalSonic on October 05, 2007, 10:19:02 PM
I stopped by the API booth to ask regarding possibly modding the input stage of the 5500 from opamp to transformer as I want to see if the upper mids could be made a little smoother via this but the man I need to speak to is Rick, and he wasn't there at the time. Answer should be forthcoming later this weekend though.
Next stopped by Lavry's booth and got the schpiel from Dan on the new AD10. It looks nice, although the ergonomics of everything being controlled by a single toggle switch look a little awkward to me. Then again - with most parameters it would be set it and forget it, and the built in attenuator is a digital controlled analog potentiometer with 1dB steps, which makes it nice for recalls, so this really isn't that big of a downside. While it has word clock in on bnc it doesn't have word clock out so it couldn't be used as a master clock - a definite downside to me. There's two optional digital processing algorithms labelled "transformer" and "tube" you can put in line after the analog input (or both together for "complex") - but Dan, like me, felt the best option is just the straight "clear" conversion which does not color the sound by default. After hashing it out with him seems in my case my needs would be met a lot more just adding a Blue Msync and ADC module to my existing 4496 chassis - so might have this done early next year.
Next spent a bit of time taking a look at the Elysia Alpha. Ergonomics and functions looked very cool: the niveau filter style single eq band to do seamless tilts of a mix to darker or brighter, onboard side chain tuning, built in and easily switchable m/s matrix (along with solos for m/s processed and unprocessed) all were really cool features to me.
From what I could tell from the terrible listening environment that is the AES floor it seemed very effective while clean and solid sounding. The price tag of $10g's doesn't really seem that outrageous once you see what you can actually do with this thing. I'm not sure whether I really would have the budget for this any time soon though - so while I'd love some real demo time with it - right now it looks like it will just have to be a wish list item.
Next I ran into Al Grundy, and talked to him for a bit. Seems he has a few restored Neumann cutting lathe systems for sale. I'm mighty mightily tempted to get back into cutting vinyl based on the price he quoted me for a full guaranteed working system. Please talk some sense into me regarding this if you see me on the floor!
I ran into Ed Littman there as the floor was closing. He told me that Burgess had a small booth with a single chair and a couple eq's and showed me the new Sontec / ITI price list. Can't remember the exact pricing but I believe a new 432 would run around under $9000, and a new 250EX about $2850. He was also offering some mastering eq's that were switchable from Sontec to ITI-style electronics in the one box for around $11000. Looks like Brad sold his used 432 right on time!!
I'm going to make a point of stopping by to introduce myself to Burgess later this weekend - pictures at 11:00.
After the floor closed I had a really nice dinner at a good Italian joint on 40th & 9th Ave. (lots of great places on that block and above for those looking for good eats near the Javitz center) with Ed where we had some good shop talk.
Tomorrow I have an afternoon rehearsal with my string quartet and then am going to see Sharon Jones & The Dap-Kings play at the Apollo Theater - so if I can't get my lazy butt up early enough I might miss the day - but I should be around for most of Sunday and maybe a little bit on Monday so hope to run into some more folks then.
Best regards,
Steve Berson
Post by: Gold on October 06, 2007, 01:28:27 AM
| TotalSonic wrote on Fri, 05 October 2007 22:19 |
Next I ran into Al Grundy, and talked to him for a bit. Seems he has a few restored Neumann cutting lathe systems for sale. I'm mighty mightily tempted to get back into cutting vinyl based on the price he quoted me for a full guaranteed working system. Please talk some sense into me regarding this if you see me on the floor! |
Please buy one. He needs to clean out the shop and I would like my saturdays back eventually.
Post by: Thomas W. Bethel on October 06, 2007, 08:56:03 AM
I wanted to go this year but with my long time assistant leaving and work piling up it was not in the cards.
Maybe I will make it for my 40th year in the AES in 2009.
Thanks again for all the interesting information - it is like having a personal shopper.
Post by: bblackwood on October 06, 2007, 09:03:58 AM
Post by: J.J. Blair on October 06, 2007, 10:32:57 AM
Much more entertaining than hanging out with my friend Fletcher.
Post by: mcsnare on October 06, 2007, 10:41:23 AM
Dave
Post by: compasspnt on October 06, 2007, 01:16:53 PM
I have walked up and down, all around, and haven't seen any of you.
Oh...I'm here in the control room mixing.
Never mind.
Have a good time.
Post by: Roundbadge on October 06, 2007, 05:07:53 PM
anyone there check see whats up?
Post by: mcsnare on October 06, 2007, 10:41:37 PM
Dave
Post by: Ed Littman on October 07, 2007, 01:40:12 AM
| mcsnare wrote on Sat, 06 October 2007 22:41 |
I sat and chatted with Burgess for almost an hour. He seems to have sorted out any past issues and is full speed ahead. He is introducing a new twist on the 430 series that allows them to sound like the 250 series with the flip of a switch. We'll see how long it takes to actually deliver the units. I've been on a waiting list for about 3 months...... Dave |
To me this was the most interesting of the offerings at aes.
Burgess offers many configurations to the eq. The one I would be most interested is the MES-432D9. three parametric bands, two fixed shelves +/- 9db (6 x.05db + 6 x 1db)increments.
price...$8,200
while building the eq you can have the unit prepared for the Duo compatibility(switch btn. sontec or iti) for $250 a channel or $350 after delivery.
The extra eq modules for the sontec or iti are $2800
so for $11500 & probably a long wait you get one box with two eq's in them. Burgess does use new electronics & states he has a supply of new oldstock transistors that retains the classic sontec sound.
sorry I missed ya dave.
Ed
Post by: Matt_G on October 07, 2007, 08:28:23 AM
Matt
Post by: Gold on October 07, 2007, 08:34:11 AM
| Ed Littman wrote on Sun, 07 October 2007 01:40 |
so for $11500 & probably a long wait you get one box with two eq's in them. |
For that dough I'd decide which flavor I liked better and get the six band bohemoth. It's a lot of EQ and can be used at the same time. I'd shoot myself if II had to figure out whether the ITI or the Sontec was perfect for a .5 dB boost at 27K.
Post by: bblackwood on October 07, 2007, 08:57:04 AM
Time will tell if any of these things that look promising flesh out...
Post by: Gold on October 07, 2007, 09:14:44 AM
Post by: mcsnare on October 07, 2007, 10:56:20 AM
After yakking with so many folks, I used up my gear listening time, so I'm gonna have to go back on Monday. A few things I did hear that seemed cool: the Greg G./Dave Amels tape sim box and the Phoenix Audio mini passive eq( I forgot what they call it.) The eq is one rack space, passive filters, and reqires you to mate it with a gain stage/mic pre of your choice. They had it hooked up to the Phoenix tube pre and even on the AES floor I was very impressed. It only goes down to about 800hz, but the mids and top are like buttah.
I talked at length to Greg about the tape simulation box and it seems like they really zeroed in on the minute eq cure/phase shift/dynamic harmonic makeup of various decks and different tape types. I could hear a basic vibe of what the box does and it seemed promising, but I think it's the kind of thing that has to be heard in a more hi-rez environment to hear the subtleties, which is what the box is all about.
It was fun to see Brad taking notes while Brian Lucey instructed him on the fine art of cable matching for best performance.
Dave
Post by: Bob Boyd on October 07, 2007, 10:56:48 AM
| Gold wrote on Sun, 07 October 2007 08:14 |
I was looking forward to seeing the multiband Maselec compressor. I saw Leif but he didn't have one there. Apparently Studio Consultants has one. I wanted to try it at the show because if I get it in my room I'll probably want to keep it. |
I've got the MLA-3 here on demo. Nice box. Being a former MEA2 guy, it was nice to see that you could shut the unit off and it would pass audio. I just like knowing that "bypass" is truly bypassed.
Sonically, it is extremely transparent and would be more than adequate for a touch of band compression here and there. The linking option is very unique. You can, for example, have the low and mid sidechains listen to each other and create a pump in the mids that's triggered from the kick.
I didn't find that it was my thing when trying to DeEss with it.
I don't use multiband compression that much and if I didn't already have the excellent and extremely flexible MD4 in my System 6000, I think it would find a home here.
I'm a fan of Leif's gear and the MLA-3 is worth a listen.
Post by: carlsaff on October 07, 2007, 11:13:08 AM
| Ed Littman wrote on Sun, 07 October 2007 00:40 |
$8,200 |
!
Well, I'm glad I've been saving for a new EQ. I just had no idea this might be the one I was saving for.
Post by: Silvertone on October 07, 2007, 11:18:48 AM
Burgess wanted to spank me for my comments on the web regarding the MES EQ's. We talked for like an hour. I just reminded him I just repeated what George had told me. He an George still have that rivalry going after 30 years! He showed Ed Littman and I pictures of the one and only ITI console ever made, very cool. It's funny as Burgess hasn't changed in 15+ years I've know him. Him coming to AES and his booth was a last minute decision, he said he wanted to show everyone that he wasn't dead yet. Still has a great sense of humor. I will be waiting to see about deliveries myself. Chris (Muth) was going up to see him at the end of the show as he needs a bunch of op-amps from him.
Good to see you and meet you Ed. Paul (Gold) sorry I missed you, we seem to run into each other at every show but not this time.
Ran into lots of old friends and some new ones. Dave Amels (was showing the Anamod but it still isn't shipping till Novemeber). Anthony DeMaria, Joe Demao, Chris Muth, Bob Muller, Joe Monterello, Daniel Weiss, etc...
Finally got to meet Tom Reichebach and David Geren, what nice guys. We talked about his Dad's designs and he told me to hold onto my 10002 and 10013 transformers as they will never able to be produced again. The way in which his Dad built them and wrapped them is a lost art and no one knows how to do it anymore... not even Tom... and forget about the materials they were made of, just not the same.
Had a nice long chat with Dan Lavry, nice guy and impressive mind. Will be arranging a shootout between the Weiss, Lavry (Gold) and Prism converters shortly.
As always these things are more about the people then the gear IMHO and it was great to see old friends and to just go out and do the NYC night life thing. Many of the left coast guys I was looking forward to seeing just didn't make the show, bummer.
Post by: Silvertone on October 07, 2007, 11:23:09 AM
| mcsnare wrote on Sun, 07 October 2007 09:56 |
I've been using Scott Hull's 462 for the last 2 months and it's like cheating. You have all the control of a Weiss or the Algorithmix but with the sound of a Sontec. The new version(482) is going to have lots of fans when Burgess starts delivering. After yakking with so many folks, I used up my gear listening time, so I'm gonna have to go back on Monday. A few things I did hear that seemed cool: the Greg G./Dave Amels tape sim box and the Phoenix Audio mini passive eq( I forgot what they call it.) The eq is one rack space, passive filters, and reqires you to mate it with a gain stage/mic pre of your choice. They had it hooked up to the Phoenix tube pre and even on the AES floor I was very impressed. It only goes down to about 800hz, but the mids and top are like buttah. I talked at length to Greg about the tape simulation box and it seems like they really zeroed in on the minute eq cure/phase shift/dynamic harmonic makeup of various decks and different tape types. I could hear a basic vibe of what the box does and it seemed promising, but I think it's the kind of thing that has to be heard in a more hi-rez environment to hear the subtleties, which is what the box is all about. It was fun to see Brad taking notes while Brian Lucey instructed him on the fine art of cable matching for best performance. Dave |
Sorry I missed you at the show. As for the Anamod, you really have to hear this thing in your room. I was amazed at how it sounded at the Helios listening party (without even trying). I think Greg and Dave are onto something here (or is that hear). Dave will be sending one up just as soon as they can spare one.
Post by: Bob Boyd on October 07, 2007, 11:43:36 AM
| Silvertone wrote on Sun, 07 October 2007 10:18 |
Burgess wanted to spank me... |
What happens in New York, should stay in New York.
Post by: jdg on October 07, 2007, 12:21:27 PM
| carlsaff wrote on Sun, 07 October 2007 08:13 | ||
! Well, I'm glad I've been saving for a new EQ. I just had no idea this might be the one I was saving for. |
sell me your nseq-f!!
Post by: Silvertone on October 07, 2007, 01:39:21 PM
| Matt_G wrote on Sun, 07 October 2007 07:28 |
Does Burgess have a website up yet? Matt |
Hi Matt,
All of Burgess' info says www.iti-audio.com and he said it was up in running, but as far as I can tell it's not. Sooooooooo.... it'll be a watch, wait and see area of interest for me.
Post by: Silvertone on October 07, 2007, 01:40:22 PM
| Bob Boyd wrote on Sun, 07 October 2007 10:43 | ||
What happens in New York, should stay in New York. |
Yes but at Burgess' age it hardly even hurt, I was somewhat disappointed
Post by: Ed Littman on October 07, 2007, 01:45:23 PM
| mcsnare wrote on Sun, 07 October 2007 10:56 |
It was fun to see Brad taking notes while Brian Lucey instructed him on the fine art of cable matching for best performance. Dave |
awh...I missed that
. was there any red on that blue floor?Ed
Post by: gbacklin on October 07, 2007, 01:52:39 PM
| Silvertone wrote on Sun, 07 October 2007 13:39 | ||
Hi Matt, All of Burgess' info says www.iti-audio.com and he said it was up in running, but as far as I can tell it's not. Sooooooooo.... it'll be a watch, wait and see area of interest for me. |
| Quote: |
domain: iti-audio.com created: 02-Oct-2007 |
Looks like he just got it up, so might be a bit before fully operational.
Take Care,
Gene
Post by: Gold on October 07, 2007, 09:17:31 PM
| Bob Boyd wrote on Sun, 07 October 2007 10:56 |
I didn't find that it was my thing when trying to DeEss with it. |
When I spoke to him I said it might be good as a desser. He said it would sort of do it but wouldn't touch the MDS. So I guess he's aware of that.
Post by: TotalSonic on October 07, 2007, 11:55:30 PM
The Burl Audio "B2 Bomber" ADC -
http://www.burlaudio.com/products/b2-bomber.php
This is created by the same guy who was behind most of the design of the UA2192 - had a very good chat with him and really appreciated his take on things and his philosophies. What makes it very unique is there's a pair of custom made transformers in the analog path. Everything else definitely looks to also be of very high quality, with very well thought out features - apparently it's built so that you can clip it's inputs with minimal damage possible. Street price around $3500
Maybe not the only ADC you'd want in the rack but looks worthy of a demo as an alternative for those considering something like the HEDD or the Lavry AD10.
Best regards,
Steve Berson
Post by: bblackwood on October 08, 2007, 07:25:14 AM
I think I'm going to try one of Bruno's Hypex amps. And when Grimm is able to get the DD1 finished, it will def be here on trial. Bruno is a very smart dude...
And Chris Athens should be doing stand-up.
Post by: Noah Mintz on October 08, 2007, 09:41:33 AM
The thing I really like about it is the band splitting (and I hate.... read 'fucking hate' multi band) The implementation of this was just stellar and totally usable.
I could see myself getting one.
From the website:
One of the important features of the MASTERPIECE is the 3 band INPUT FILTER system that is used everywhere except, of course, on the Equalizer sections themselves.
A choice of High Pass, Band Pass and Low pass filters is available for insertion into the path of MASTERPIECE Processing blocks: TAPE TEXTURE, AUX SEND, VARI-PHASE, CLASSIC, and COMPRESSOR.
When all three INPUT FILTER Push-Buttons are pressed, the mixed outputs of the filters are combined and mixed to the signal return path.
The filter slope is 12 dB/Octave and the crossover frequencies are defined at - 3dB.
High Pass and Low Pass Filters produce opposite phase polarities. In order to obtain a flat frequency response over the whole audio band when they are mixed, it is necessary to invert the phase of the mid or Band Pass section. (Similar to the problem in loudspeaker crossover networks). So a Phase Invert Push-Button is provided for the Band Pass filter.
The effect of doing this can be heard on some program material - depends on whether the signal content tends towards a sine wave, as with a soprano voice or whether there is large harmonic content that spreads into adjacent frequently bands.
This phase reversal over a limited range of frequencies can produce some interesting spatial effects particularly when the IMAGING features are used.
A choice of two crossover frequencies is provided. The complementary LP and HP crossover filter frequencies are both shifted to produce an overall flat response regardless of the crossover frequency chosen.
Post by: Phil Demetro on October 08, 2007, 11:46:17 AM
| bblackwood wrote on Mon, 08 October 2007 07:25 |
Chris Athens should be doing stand-up. |
That's nothing compared to how women behave around him.
Really quite shocking....
I could tell you some stories but I'd rather not become part of his standup routine
Post by: Masterer on October 08, 2007, 01:20:35 PM
| Phil Demetro wrote on Mon, 08 October 2007 11:46 |
I could tell you some stories but I'd rather not become part of his standup routine |
Too late Phil.
Post by: turtletone on October 08, 2007, 01:24:42 PM
Post by: bblackwood on October 08, 2007, 03:58:21 PM
| Phil Demetro wrote on Mon, 08 October 2007 10:46 | ||
That's nothing compared to how women behave around him. Really quite shocking.... |
There's a reason Chris likes Hoegaarden...
Post by: bblackwood on October 08, 2007, 04:05:39 PM
Post by: TotalSonic on October 08, 2007, 04:40:42 PM
The Museum of Sound had a booth - they have about 3 warehouses full of gear of historical interest and are trying to get a grant to open a museum of it to the public -
cool Ampex 1-track (reminds me of the Dr. Bronner "All One! All One! - We Must be All One or All None!!"):
& the latest in portable audio - the Nagra! -
Biggest & coolest surprise was seeing Burgess Macneal - one of the inventors of the parameric equalizer - and that he has restarted repairing and making the legendary Sontec & ITI eq's:
First time in the USA was Jocavi from Lisbon, Portugal showing their huge variety of their beautifully made diffusors and absorbers:
I really dug getting to talk to Rich Williams (the designer of the UA2192) and checking out his new ADC, the Burl B2 Bomber - with transformers in the analog path!:
part 2 after this post
Best regards,
Steve Berson
Post by: TotalSonic on October 08, 2007, 04:42:04 PM
In beta right now is the PSP Audioware Xenon brickwall peak limiter - according to Arf Mastering's Alan Silverman who I saw on the floor (and is beta testing it) this is amazingly transparent - in conversation he rated it better for most tracks than the TC MD4, Voxengo Elephant or Sony Limiter. It should be released in a couple of months:
Lavry was showing their new 2 channel ADC - the "Lavry Black" AD10 - to go along with the DA10 -
From what I could hear of it on via headphones the Vintage Design CL1MK2 is a very cool comp/limiter based on the Neve 2254 but with lots of nice control and features (detented everything except for make up gain controls) - might be my next purchase -
The other comp that really has my interest in the DW Fearn VT7 -
Elysia showed their new mix compressor the Mpressor - along with the massively cool Alpha ($10g's but based on the demo seems like it is worth it) -
A much less expensive "Alpha" is Frontier Designs single fader DAW control box - looks like just what I need in a compact footprint -
Shadow Hills had a bunch of their retro look stuff there also - the new Dual Optograph which features a redesigned and enhanced optical section from their mastering compressor seemed especially cool -
Best regards,
Steve Berson
Post by: TotalSonic on October 08, 2007, 04:44:54 PM
| bblackwood wrote on Mon, 08 October 2007 16:05 |
As a quick update, I had the pleasure of sitting on a mastering panel Sunday moderated by Bob Ludwig that included Greg Calbi, Tim Young, Gavin Lurssen and Paul Stubblebine - it was humbling to be among so many accomplished veterans. I enjoyed the experience and got to meet several people afterwards I hadn't previously had the chance to. All in all a very positive experience. Kudos to Bob and the rest of the panel! |
So sorry to have missed it - I had a really late night on Saturday and was having a late brunch instead. Anything of interest said during it or was it a rehash of the usual?
Best regards,
Steve Berson
Post by: Noah Mintz on October 08, 2007, 05:00:59 PM
Meeting Burges was a trip. That dude can talk and had Michael Fossenkemper and I making eye jesters at each other. Great stories. I can't wait to order a set of brand new shiny HS-1000s from him.
On a funny note, Phil George and I walked into an elevator in the hotel and found we were sharing it with the isotope people (ozone) and I called them my enemy and ripped into them about how the software was all wrong and conflicted with my mastering ethics... I'm not sure if they got my Canadian sarcasm and I'm pretty sure I made Phil and George uncomfortable... but I had fun with it. I can't tell you how many times I've heard from clients "Well I really liked what you did but I was wondering if you could get it to sound a little more stereoized like I did at home with this software that has multiband harmonic masturbater exciter..." Anyway, I think I made up for it by telling them that I thought their GUI was kickass.
N
Post by: TotalSonic on October 08, 2007, 05:27:33 PM
| Noah Mintz wrote on Mon, 08 October 2007 17:00 |
I really liked the idea of the the Burl B2 Bomber (2ch AD converter - see above for pictures) There is no other 2 ch AD in that price range (there are cheaper or more expensive). I liked the fact that you can change how it hits the transformers. I can see it being a cool thing to have as an alternate AD. A converter with vibe. Great for mixing engineers too. Really cool and nice guy behind the design of it BTW... he seemed at little lonely in his booth at times though. lol. |
Completely agreed - definitely piqued my interest as possibly an alternative that would work well as an option my Mytek Stereo96 for when some transformer vibe is in preference to a more "transparent" capture. I'm surprised there wasn't more attention being sent his way as Rich seemed extraodinarily knowledgeable and friendly and his product was one of the few things there that seemed actually "new" to me.
| Quote: |
Meeting Burges was a trip. That dude can talk and had Michael Fossenkemper and I making eye jesters at each other. Great stories. |
His description of how George Massenburg was dressed on his wedding day was particularly funny to me. Burgess was extremely gracious to me though and it was indeed an honor to meet him.
Best regards,
Steve Berson
Post by: crna59 on October 08, 2007, 09:34:44 PM
| Noah Mintz wrote on Mon, 08 October 2007 08:41 |
The Legendary Audio Masterpiece blew me away. I know it's been around for a while but I guess this was a new version with a price of about $12-14K. |
Yes, it's as good as the hype.
I just got back into Seattle tonight. I met a few of you for the first time. The Mastering panel was great!
Paul Stubblebine anounced a new project (www.tapeproject.com), that will supply master quality 1/4" half-track tape to any individual that wants to pay for it.
As the V.P of the Pacific Northwest Audio Society, we'll be having a meeting on Thursday evening with one of the partners in the project. Should be interesting.
Great to see NY for the first time..... THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE HOME!!!
Regards,
Bruce
Post by: mcsnare on October 08, 2007, 10:10:15 PM
Also got to run the Chandler Curve Bender and the new Germanium Compressor through it's(their?) paces. That Germanium is a mofo of a comp. Uber cool with lots of tone/comp variations, all of which sounded great. The CB was very impressive as well, but it's a bit harder to tell on the floor about something as subtle as a mastering quality eq..
I finally got to play with the Elysia Alpha comp. Extremely impressive box. It's was clean but not boring.
Lastly J.J. Blair had a super cool custom Pete Townshend model iPhone. Mega bitchin.
Dave
Post by: TotalSonic on October 08, 2007, 10:37:38 PM
| mcsnare wrote on Mon, 08 October 2007 22:10 |
I finally got to play with the Elysia Alpha comp. Extremely impressive box. It's was clean but not boring. |
Agreed. It's hard to make any decent evaluation on the AES floor but the feature set and implementation was really top notch on it - and there was nothing "boring" about it as far I heard. Not really something I can justify as within my budget right now - but definitely it got put on my wish list.
Best regards,
Steve Berson
Post by: TotalSonic on October 08, 2007, 10:45:34 PM
| crna59 wrote on Mon, 08 October 2007 21:34 |
Paul Stubblebine anounced a new project (www.tapeproject), that will supply master quality 1/4" half-track tape to any individual that wants to pay for it. |
http://www.tapeproject.com
Interesting stuff - they're releasing albums on 1/4" 15ips 2-track transferred from 1" 2-track masters.
$329 for a single release that they seem to be asking for (unless you want a $1200 yearly subscription for 10 annual releases - a lot of which didn't really grab my interest) is a bit steep for me - although maybe I could justify it for Sonny Rollins "Saxophone Collosus" or Bill Evans "Waltz for Debby" just to have a reference here.
| Quote: |
Great to see NY for the first time..... THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE HOME!!! |
Agreed! - especially since NYC is my home! I really have enjoyed my trips to the Puget Sound area though - Orcas Island is especially beautiful.
Best regards,
Steve Berson
Post by: Phil Demetro on October 08, 2007, 11:21:01 PM
So much great food, good looking women, and smart-ass mastering engineers.
The mood was great. Had some interesting short and not so short run-ins with these cool people - Joe Palmaccio, David Glasser, Dominic Maita, Ed Littman, Phillip Sztenderowich, Chris Athens, Jay Franco, Ray Janos, Albert Grundy, Howie Weinberg, Chris & Jenn Muth, Tom Coyne, Michael Jackson, Barry Wolifson, Chris Gehringer, Brad Blackwood, Burgess MacNeal, Oliver Neumann, etc....
I was most excited by an upcoming version of Sequoia. Some big and small Griffin Loudspeakers were sounding pretty great in a shitty little room. Tons of good stuff out there (but I can't say I'm too excited about buying much else that I saw). I'm done with buying gear for now.
A great way to start off the trip: a fun visit to my favorite large box store - Sterling Sound. (Chelsea Market didn't suck either)
I only caught one panel - the New Media one hosted by Joe Palmaccio (made a great impression) and Gavin Lurssen, Chris Athens and Andrew Mendelson. After about 10 minutes the new media thing got dumped and the war stories came out. "dearly beloved...."
You had to be there
Post by: Noah Mintz on October 09, 2007, 12:22:29 AM
| Phil Demetro wrote on Mon, 08 October 2007 23:21 |
...Tom Coyne, Michael Jackson, Barry Wolifson... |
Holy shit. You met Barry?
Post by: Jerry Tubb on October 09, 2007, 01:14:46 AM
| bblackwood wrote on Mon, 08 October 2007 15:05 |
As a quick update, I had the pleasure of sitting on a mastering panel Sunday moderated by Bob Ludwig that included Greg Calbi, Tim Young, Gavin Lurssen and Paul Stubblebine - it was humbling to be among so many accomplished veterans. I enjoyed the experience and got to meet several people afterwards I hadn't previously had the chance to. All in all a very positive experience. Kudos to Bob and the rest of the panel! |
Very Cool Brad, and congrats on being included in the "big dogs" of mastering panel.
All my encounters with Bob Ludwig over the last few years have been very positive.
JT
Post by: Gold on October 09, 2007, 08:05:46 AM
| Noah Mintz wrote on Tue, 09 October 2007 00:22 |
Holy shit. You met Barry? |
Have you guys been using the test record or have you stuck with the NAB?
Post by: bblackwood on October 09, 2007, 08:32:35 AM
Post by: D Harris on October 09, 2007, 09:04:05 AM
Post by: TotalSonic on October 09, 2007, 01:03:11 PM
| bblackwood wrote on Tue, 09 October 2007 08:32 |
I don't recall seeing it mentioned, but I just remembered the translation software being offered by SSL - it can translate from/to any DAW (except Radar, for now) and has some great features for getting audio from one platform to another. Didn't see a full demo, but what I saw was very impressive. I think it's going to sell @ $600, so not expensive... |
http://www.solid-state-logic.com/news/Pro_Convert.html
A video is at: http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=5384
This has been around for a good while already as "EDL Convert Pro 4" from the company that SSL bought out - CuiBono Soft - http://www.cuibono-soft.com
What IS new is that they have apparently reverse engineered the ProTools 7.x session file format (it was previously stuck at version 5.x) so that it will become a much more useful tool - plus they're apparently going to have a dedicated team keeping it updated for all the other various DAW formats as well.
I've heard from a pretty reliable source that the price is actually going to be closer to $700.
Anyway - I was thinking of buying an Mbox or such so that I could have PT LE in order to be able to consolidate tracks when receiving PT session files as I have clients who once in a blue moon want me to open them - but this might be an alternative solution that allows even wider compatibility.
Best regards,
Steve Berson
Post by: TotalSonic on October 09, 2007, 01:04:36 PM
| Gold wrote on Tue, 09 October 2007 08:05 | ||
Have you guys been using the test record or have you stuck with the NAB? |
Speaking of which - where can I get a NAB turntable calibration record these days?
Best regards,
Steve Berson
Post by: Phil Demetro on October 09, 2007, 01:15:55 PM
| Gold wrote on Tue, 09 October 2007 08:05 | ||
Have you guys been using the test record or have you stuck with the NAB? |
We're using the new test record but haven't fully gone through the lathe with it yet. Also used it to set up my Mastering lab/Shefield Labs phone pre.
An indispensable purchase so far....
Post by: Gold on October 09, 2007, 04:20:11 PM
| TotalSonic wrote on Tue, 09 October 2007 13:04 |
Speaking of which - where can I get a NAB turntable calibration record these days? |
Unubtanium unless you find a used one. If you need a test record get this one. http://store.acousticsounds.com/browse_detail.cfm?Title_ID=3 5532§ion=
You should have snagged one while you had the chance.
Post by: TotalSonic on October 09, 2007, 04:38:58 PM
| Gold wrote on Tue, 09 October 2007 16:20 | ||
Unubtanium unless you find a used one. If you need a test record get this one. http://store.acousticsounds.com/browse_detail.cfm?Title_ID=3 5532§ion= You should have snagged one while you had the chance. |
It was an oversight - I was being honest and didn't just walk out with anything that wasn't mine after Europadisk closed - and then I thought there was one in the case of odds and ends I won at the auction (that did have things like the MCI 1/2" head stack in it) but there wasn't.
Thanks for the link - $40 isn't that bad of a price and at least it will be scratch/pop free relative to getting something used.
It's back ordered on the site you linked but seems to be in stock here: http://www.elusivedisc.com/prodinfo.asp?number=APLPTEST
Best regards,
Steve Berson
Post by: Mark Wilder on October 10, 2007, 10:23:34 AM
Post by: zmix on October 10, 2007, 10:38:49 AM
| Mark Wilder wrote on Wed, 10 October 2007 10:23 |
It seems that we've all gravitated to the same booths, more or less. The only other device that peaked my interest is the new Antelope Audio Isocrone 10M clock source. I really liked the OCX-V so I can only imagine what this addition will be like. I'm hoping for a demo in a few months. When that happens, I'll let you know. |
Mark,
I listened to the Isocrone 10M yesterday at two different studios. Igor Levin had just flown in to the city Tuesday(from the Ukraine?) and was quite jetlagged.
We listened to a variety of material and I will say that the results were positively detectable and sometimes quite interesting, The 10M seemed to make the most difference on 'cheaper' converters. Ironic, since it costs $6000.
Post by: Masterer on October 10, 2007, 12:20:54 PM
| Mark Wilder wrote on Wed, 10 October 2007 10:23 |
It seems that we've all gravitated to the same booths, more or less. The only other device that peaked my interest is the new Antelope Audio Isocrone 10M clock source. I really liked the OCX-V so I can only imagine what this addition will be like. I'm hoping for a demo in a few months. When that happens, I'll let you know. |
Hey man, I missed you by a few minutes [Burgess told me]. I sat and talked to him 'till he ran outta steam - the old fella was putting in some long days!
I'm checking out the Antelope stuff on Thursday. Maybe you should come over.
Yeesh, pretty soon I'll be buyin' fancy-ass cables.
Post by: dave-G on October 10, 2007, 03:32:27 PM
| Masterer wrote on Wed, 10 October 2007 12:20 |
Yeesh, pretty soon I'll be buyin' fancy-ass cables. |
I thought you said you only went "that way" during fleet week.
NTTAWWT, of course.
-dave
Post by: Mark Wilder on October 10, 2007, 07:13:29 PM
| Masterer wrote on Wed, 10 October 2007 12:20 | ||
Hey man, I missed you by a few minutes [Burgess told me]. I sat and talked to him 'till he ran outta steam - the old fella was putting in some long days! I'm checking out the Antelope stuff on Thursday. Maybe you should come over. Yeesh, pretty soon I'll be buyin' fancy-ass cables. |
Marcel was showing me another box, not the OCX-V, that does split base rates, pull down/up, etc... This baby with the 10M solves so many issues for me, it's incredible. How many times have I gotten a 96K project and have to bring it down to 44.1Kc...One clock source. Oh Yeah.
Post by: Noah Mintz on October 11, 2007, 11:12:16 AM
| Mark Wilder wrote on Wed, 10 October 2007 19:13 |
Marcel was showing me another box, not the OCX-V, that does split base rates, pull down/up, etc... This baby with the 10M solves so many issues for me, it's incredible. How many times have I gotten a 96K project and have to bring it down to 44.1Kc...One clock source. Oh Yeah. |
The dCS clock also does split base rates. It can spit out 4 different rates at a time. Sounds great (from what I can tell but I've never used my converters without the clock) Everything from 192k to DSD. It's about $6K too.
Oh hey, did anyone see the new Weiss firewire AES i/o interface box (not the dsp thing)? Seems like something I could definitely use.
Post by: Fifthcircle on October 11, 2007, 12:30:49 PM
First of all Sequoia 10 has a huge improvement for mastering types. Been asking for it for years and it has finally been implemented- that is a Smart dithering scheme. Basically, no need to worry about double-dithering 16 bit material anymore. Dithing kicks in within about 1000 samples of any bit rate change in a session or sound file (can turn on or off for both entire sessions or destructive editing).
Second- with the talk of clocks, the Brainstorm DCD-8 is a great sounding clock that can send out 2 asynchronous sample rates plus super clock. It can also distribute a clock signal as well as regenerate clock for video, etc... Sort of like their timecode regeneration boxes. Been out for awhile to so there isn't any problem getting them.
--Ben
Post by: Greg Reierson on October 11, 2007, 02:53:49 PM
| Fifthcircle wrote on Thu, 11 October 2007 11:30 |
Couple random thoughts after reading the entire thread... First of all Sequoia 10 has a huge improvement for mastering types. Been asking for it for years and it has finally been implemented- that is a Smart dithering scheme. Basically, no need to worry about double-dithering 16 bit material anymore. Dithing kicks in within about 1000 samples of any bit rate change in a session or sound file (can turn on or off for both entire sessions or destructive editing). |
That's one of the many features I miss about good ol' Classic Sonic Studio. Seems so simple....
Glad to see it in Sequoia.
GR
Post by: Noah Mintz on October 11, 2007, 04:42:37 PM
Post by: bblackwood on October 11, 2007, 05:21:44 PM
| Noah Mintz wrote on Thu, 11 October 2007 15:42 |
Sequoia 10 was def awesome. |
Yah, I was impressed enough I might have to upgrade (still running 7.23 here)...
Post by: Bob Boyd on October 11, 2007, 05:31:25 PM
| bblackwood wrote on Thu, 11 October 2007 16:21 |
Yah, I was impressed enough I might have to upgrade (still running 7.23 here)... |
Old gear sounds warmer.
Post by: Phil Demetro on October 11, 2007, 05:32:59 PM
| bblackwood wrote on Thu, 11 October 2007 17:21 | ||
Yah, I was impressed enough I might have to upgrade (still running 7.23 here)... |
7.23 for me too.... version 8.x kinda scared me.
9 looks great but 10 will be *the* reason to upgrade for me.
Highlight of the AES floor for me
Post by: Phil Demetro on October 11, 2007, 05:36:21 PM
| Noah Mintz wrote on Thu, 11 October 2007 11:12 |
Oh hey, did anyone see the new Weiss firewire AES i/o interface box (not the dsp thing)? Seems like something I could definitely use. |
Do you have link to this?
There was a picture you showed me....?
Post by: Bob Boyd on October 11, 2007, 05:51:58 PM
------
Hi Bob
We have a firewire board which goes into the ADC2 unit. And a further Firewire project is not far away (we have shown a prototype at the AES in NY), the VESTA-24 which is a Firewire interface with 24 channels of I/O, i.e. 8 channels of AES/EBU I/O and 16 channels of ADAT I/O.
Best Regards,
Daniel
------
He mentions in a later email that estimated MSRP for the Vesta-24 is $1000.
It might be a interesting companion to soundBlade for me. I'll be keeping an eye on this one.
Post by: Noah Mintz on October 11, 2007, 06:59:34 PM
| Bob Boyd wrote on Thu, 11 October 2007 17:51 |
After Noah mentioned it, I emailed Daniel. Here's his response: ------ Hi Bob We have a firewire board which goes into the ADC2 unit. And a further Firewire project is not far away (we have shown a prototype at the AES in NY), the VESTA-24 which is a Firewire interface with 24 channels of I/O, i.e. 8 channels of AES/EBU I/O and 16 channels of ADAT I/O. Best Regards, Daniel ------ He mentions in a later email that estimated MSRP for the Vesta-24 is $1000. It might be a interesting companion to soundBlade for me. I'll be keeping an eye on this one. |
Yes, the VESTA. It looks like the hydra. Kind of like the new TC box but cheaper and a Weiss (the king of digital). He said it will be available in a few months but I've heard that before from him. Daniel would not release something until it's 100% ready.
I really like Weiss and I have for a long time. I don't use the EQ anymore but I still use the DS-1 on about 50% off all the jobs I do and when I use it, I can't imagine using anything else.
Noah
Post by: Sonovo on October 12, 2007, 05:04:31 AM
NY was a blast. It's amazing how much new gear has appeared the last few years, much of it aimed at mastering. I wasn't in the market for new gear, but after having Burgess talk my ears off and getting the opportunity to try one out myself at Scott Hulls place (thanks Scott & Dave!), I realize it's time to start saving. Maybe I can sell my Forsell modded NSEQ-2 for the down payment...
The Mastering for new media panel was hilarious! If Chris ever writes a book Mixerman is really going to have some comeptition. I don't know how he can get any work done with his clients rolling around the floor in laughter
. Definately some war stories there.One thing I thought was nice about the Platinum mastering panel was that Bob opened by basically saying it like it is - "I used to try and make great sounding records, but the last few years I'm basically doing what everyone else is, squashing things flat". Nice intro and a lot of good input, but it could have gone more into the problem and how to solve it. Crispin (Crookwood) said it pretty well later on the show floor (as had Tim Young on the panel) in that artist insecurity plays a big part of it. Imagine if fine-artists competed on who had the biggest canvases or brightest colours
. At what point did art become a competitive sport?Getting to meet lots of really talented and great people was the high point for me, although reading through the thread it seems like I only met a fraction of the mastering guys there (and a few gals). I missed Brad getting tips from Brian on cables (ahem), but did have a nice dinner and beers with Brad, Crispin, Dave, Tom and David one night, and with Darcy, Ronold, Paul Wolff and others the other. Daniel Weiss was his usual laid back self, with some new gear that looks promising (Vesta firewire-AES I/O), Crispin has expanded his console offerings, Dave at Cranesong demo'd the Ibis and other gear, Mike was showing off a gorgeous brand spanking new 1/2" ATR-102, and Billy was there with the new and improved (and lower priced) Masterpiece.
I did spend some time at several workshops/turorials, and had a great talk with Keith O. Johnson (Reference recordings), his stuff really opened my ears to what level of quality was possible back in the early 80's, truly amazing recordings. Geoff Emericks Sgt. Pepper remake illuminated some of what we've lost in the record making process the last 40 years, and Michael Brauer explained what's involved in crafting a really great mix.
The Elysis compressor has looks from the future, going against the trend in these retro-times with Chandler, Shadow Hill and others producing stuff in the 50's aesthetic. It wasn't really possible to get to listen with all the noise at the show, but the feature set really seems impressive. The API stuff (2500/5500) looked really nice, and I heard that Paul is working on a new compressor under his new company that will be even better than the 2500. We live in interesting times
.Aside from the people already mentioned, I got to hang out and chat with David Glasser, Andrew Mendelson and his assistent Shelly, Gavin Lurssen, Tim Young, Mandy Parnell, Noah Mintz, Graemme Brown, Jon and Omas at Sonic, and many others. Obviously I need to get out more often
. If I've omitted anyone, it's not by choice.
Is it just me, or did basically every single mastering engineer there have an iPhone?
Cheers,
Thor
--
Sonovo mastering
Stavanger, Norway
www.sonovo.no
Post by: Noah Mintz on October 12, 2007, 09:05:30 AM
| Thor Legvold wrote on Fri, 12 October 2007 05:04 |
Is it just me, or did basically every single mastering engineer there have an iPhone? Cheers, Thor -- Sonovo mastering Stavanger, Norway www.sonovo.no |
We still can't get them in Canada. When they are made available they will probably be about $2-300 more than the US even though our dollar is currently worth about 2% more than the US. Ugh.
Post by: Gold on October 12, 2007, 12:22:36 PM
| Noah Mintz wrote on Fri, 12 October 2007 09:05 |
We still can't get them in Canada. When they are made available they will probably be about $2-300 more than the US even though our dollar is currently worth about 2% more than the US. Ugh. |
You could swim across the Niagra late at night and sign up for service. Then stop at Ming Teh after you land on the home side.
Post by: Sonovo on October 14, 2007, 05:10:33 PM
| Noah Mintz wrote on Fri, 12 October 2007 10:05 | ||
We still can't get them in Canada. When they are made available they will probably be about $2-300 more than the US even though our dollar is currently worth about 2% more than the US. Ugh. |
I picked up mine right after arrival to NY (thank you Apple Store 5th ave!). Opened it up and unlocked it without a hitch. There are quite a few internet guides floating around, Google is your friend...
The only caveat is to make sure you get a week 38 or 39 build, 40 and on have the new firmware (1.1.1) to which there is (so far) no way of unlocking. You find the build code at the beginning of the serial number, after the first 3 number/letter codes (i.e. 7R7385RGHW8 is a week 38 build).
It's not bad, although it is lacking some pretty obvious features. My Treo 650 was on it's last legs anyway, and the iPhone isn't a half bad replacement.
Thor
Post by: Etch-A-Sketch on October 15, 2007, 08:28:55 PM
| Thor Legvold wrote on Fri, 12 October 2007 02:04 |
The Mastering for new media panel was hilarious! If Chris ever writes a book Mixerman is really going to have some comeptition. |
I agree... Chris, any plans for a book of war stories on the horizon?
Post by: Masterer on October 17, 2007, 01:35:32 AM
| Etch-A-Sketch wrote on Mon, 15 October 2007 20:28 | ||
I agree... Chris, any plans for a book of war stories on the horizon? |
Thanks for the kind words guys. Good to know those hand-jobs we gave at the Mastering for new media panel weren't for nothing.
I'm working on my first book right now as a matter of fact. It's gonna blow the lid off the mastering engineer steroid scandal [what. you thought Ludwig got a head like that from drinkin' snapple??]
Post by: stevieeastend on October 17, 2007, 07:44:51 AM
Post by: Glenn Bucci on October 17, 2007, 09:09:52 AM
1. Mercenary Audio is opening a location in Brooklyn NY. Way cool
2. I got there very early and was able to listen to the Pendulum ES-8, and compare it to the Manley MU. Yes I know, it's not a real test since it was not in a studio enviroment, but I was able to hear a clear difference. The Manley adds that magical sheen while the Pend. works the peaks more since it has a faster attack. It also adds some nice color but was not the same as the magical Manley. I really would not say one is better than the other. On some 2 bus mixes you want the sheen and on other mixes more control of the peaks while still having some nice color.
3. Manley Mastering compressor is very sweet. Being able to use the two types of compressors at the same time is soo nice.
4. Got to chat with the guys at Cranesong, Fern, Manley, Great River, and many others. All there gear is the cream of the crop.
5. Glad to see the vocal booth from Real Traps in person. I am getting that for my studio.
6. My brain had an overload on gear many times during the day.
7. Lot of expensive gear ($100K and more) that I enjoyed seeing though it would never be something I could ever use.
8. Saw the Samplitude and Nuendo/Cubase updates. Version 10 of Samplitude is very nice with better automation, better controls for the Mackie Controller, and nicer skins. Oh yeah the new optic mastering compressor, and better pitch control.
9. Focused my time on fewer booths in detail compared to the two pevious times I went to the AES where I saw everything but not as in depth.
10. Wish Great River had an EQ to listen to. API or Abbey Road gear did not have any headphones either.
11. Liked hearing the Portico gear and mixer.
12. Talked to Avalon; glad the 737 compressor reacts faster now that all 737's have the Babyface update. They are working on better customer service and updated web site.
13. Cranesong Ibis, and ES-8 is another blow your mind experience.
14. Still love Massenburg EQ.
15. Universal Audio was not there. Neither was GIK Acoustics..well Glenn was there but not a booth.
16. Yamaha has nice live digital mixers.
17. Tonelux was nice to see and check out.
18. Telefunken has some nice mic's. AK47 has nice character without the top end hype
19. Charter Oak mic's are nice but too silibant on my vocals with setup they had.
20. Digidesign has new CI24 Control Surface to replace to Control 24. Very nice. Very nice indeed.
21. Focusrite has 8 channel ISA box and a 4 liquid channel pre's in one box.
22. The SPL Passeq is another great passive EQ. I really like this unit!
22. Manley Voxbox is coming to my studio soon.
Post by: Bob Boyd on October 17, 2007, 10:26:07 AM
| Masterer wrote on Wed, 17 October 2007 00:35 |
I'm working on my first book right now as a matter of fact. It's gonna blow the lid off the mastering engineer steroid scandal |
Though it might be uncomfortable, you should probably address Ted's tendency to fight his pit bulls Goldie and Mr. Clippers.
Post by: Masterer on October 17, 2007, 12:13:52 PM
That was me.
Post by: Sonovo on October 18, 2007, 07:00:47 AM
What do you feed him?
....poodles?
Cheers,
Thor
| Masterer wrote on Wed, 17 October 2007 13:13 |
Umm, actually... image snipped That was me. |
Post by: Phil Demetro on October 18, 2007, 11:23:22 AM
| Masterer wrote on Wed, 17 October 2007 12:13 |
Umm, actually... That was me. |
Geez, and you give me a hard time for trying to show you some pictures of my kid! Maybe I'll just post 'em here then?
One seriously danergerous - i mean - very cute pitbull, Chris!
Where's the other one?
Post by: Masterer on October 18, 2007, 12:13:17 PM
| Thor Legvold wrote on Thu, 18 October 2007 07:00 |
What a cute little doggie. What do you feed him? ....poodles? Cheers, Thor |
I feed her bigger dogs.... and slow-sh children.
Post by: Masterer on October 18, 2007, 12:15:57 PM
| Phil Demetro wrote on Thu, 18 October 2007 11:23 |
Geez, and you give me a hard time for trying to show you some pictures of my kid! Maybe I'll just post 'em here then? One seriously danergerous - i mean - very cute pitbull, Chris! Where's the other one? |
The other one is upstate protecting Mom, and my studio.
hell of a security team, just ask the Fed Ex guy.
Post by: Sonovo on October 18, 2007, 03:37:20 PM
Pitbull envy
Note to self: don't bring along my 4 year old if I ever visit NYC while Chris is there...
Thor
| Masterer wrote on Thu, 18 October 2007 13:15 | ||
The other one is upstate protecting Mom, and my studio. hell of a security team, just ask the Fed Ex guy. |
Post by: compasspnt on October 20, 2007, 07:36:17 AM
Male or female?
Mine just died after 11.5 years.
Very missed.
Post by: Masterer on October 20, 2007, 11:52:16 AM
| compasspnt wrote on Sat, 20 October 2007 07:36 |
Beautiful terrier. Male or female? Mine just died after 11.5 years. Very missed. |
Yeah, she's a beauty. I have one of her pups too, also a she.
My bitches.
...and I don't need an alarm syster at my studio...actually, I don't even need to lock the door.
Sorry about yours. They definitely become part of the family.
Post by: compasspnt on October 20, 2007, 12:12:32 PM
| Masterer wrote on Sat, 20 October 2007 11:52 |
They definitely become part of the family. |
Yes they do.
And they can also be put to work.
Post by: Gold on October 20, 2007, 09:21:08 PM
Post by: Masterer on October 20, 2007, 10:14:38 PM
| compasspnt wrote on Sat, 20 October 2007 12:12 | ||
Yes they do. And they can also be put to work. |
What a beauty. Nice of her to show Lenny a couple of tricks.
Post by: compasspnt on October 20, 2007, 10:29:56 PM
Christos was Studio Dog for years, greeting, helping, watching.
Heckuva mixer, too.
Would flawlessly execute over twenty commands.
The book-after-next, Stories From Compass Point, will regale the tale of 'Christos and Puffy and The Steak.'
Post by: Masterer on October 20, 2007, 11:12:42 PM
| compasspnt wrote on Sat, 20 October 2007 22:29 |
Him. Christos was Studio Dog for years, greeting, helping, watching. Heckuva mixer, too. Would flawlessly execute over twenty commands. The book-after-next, Stories From Compass Point, will regale the tale of 'Christos and Puffy and The Steak.' |
Looks like he was a good boy. He probably woulda liked my little one.
She's high maintenance though
Post by: Andrew Hamilton on October 21, 2007, 11:09:52 AM
Post by: dcollins on October 22, 2007, 01:30:31 AM
http://collinsaudio.com/lucy.jpg
DC
Post by: Masterer on October 22, 2007, 01:44:19 AM
| dcollins wrote on Mon, 22 October 2007 01:30 |
Here's another contestant. http://collinsaudio.com/lucy.jpg DC |
Cute little critter. There's nothin' like a mutt.
Post by: dcollins on October 22, 2007, 02:15:42 AM
| Masterer wrote on Sun, 21 October 2007 22:44 |
Cute little critter. There's nothin' like a mutt. |
Yep. I can see some Australian shepard both in coat and desire to "herd" innocent hikers, the rest; who knows?
100% fence jumper...
DC
Post by: lowland on October 22, 2007, 04:29:33 AM
Post by: jdg on October 22, 2007, 02:02:59 PM
which booth, and who won best in show?
my mutt:
Post by: dave-G on October 22, 2007, 02:57:37 PM
Not to mention the irony of a dog gallery on the forum of our esteemed moderator (who is a dog loather).
So ... here's my bitch. Since my kids were born, I barely even like her anymore, but she is kinda photogenic. The following is the result of a fake-grab at the ball:
Post by: Adam Dempsey on October 22, 2007, 06:59:18 PM
Post by: TotalSonic on October 22, 2007, 08:03:33 PM
Here's "Buddy" to add to this animal love fest -
Best regards,
Steve Berson
Post by: Greg Youngman on October 22, 2007, 08:22:24 PM
Post by: Andy Krehm on October 22, 2007, 10:12:54 PM
!
Post by: Masterer on October 23, 2007, 01:30:32 AM
| Greg Youngman wrote on Mon, 22 October 2007 20:22 |
Katie the Catahoula Leopard |
What a cool looking dog!
Post by: turtletone on October 23, 2007, 01:58:22 AM
Post by: Ed Littman on October 23, 2007, 09:49:56 AM
no comment
Post by: bblackwood on October 23, 2007, 10:21:43 AM
Post by: Bob Boyd on October 23, 2007, 10:28:26 AM
Post by: Allen Corneau on October 23, 2007, 10:30:10 AM
Here's my Samantha...
Post by: Ed Littman on October 23, 2007, 10:40:12 AM
| Bob Boyd wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 10:28 |
Ed, do his eyes always turn green and blue when he's mad? |
Oh...he's not mad thats the funny part. when he's mad his eys turm Blue & Green (a miles davis joke)
Ed
Post by: Gold on October 23, 2007, 10:54:13 AM
Post by: Gold on October 23, 2007, 10:56:15 AM
Post by: prozak on October 23, 2007, 11:33:32 AM
I do appear to be the odd one out...
Post by: dave-G on October 23, 2007, 11:58:06 AM
| prozak wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 11:33 |
I do appear to be the odd one out... |
I know I may never live this down, but I seem to have a gene that prevents my passing up obvious puns ....
"Hey, nice cock!"
Post by: bblackwood on October 23, 2007, 12:02:41 PM
| dave-G wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 10:58 |
I know I may never live this down, but I seem to have a gene that prevents my passing up obvious puns .... "Hey, nice cock!" |
I do believe I may have just found my new sigfile...
Post by: Gold on October 23, 2007, 12:05:46 PM
| dave-G wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 11:58 |
"Hey, nice cock!" |
This should serve as a wake up call to friends and family.
Post by: dave-G on October 23, 2007, 12:08:42 PM
| bblackwood wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 12:02 |
I do believe I may have just found my new sigfile... |
| Gold wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 12:05 |
This should serve as a wake up call to friends and family. |
Dammit, I knew I should have waited another 10 minutes so that Chris Athens could have posted the same thing.
ah well.
-dave
Post by: bblackwood on October 23, 2007, 12:10:13 PM
| dave-G wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 11:08 | ||||
Dammit, I knew I should have waited another 10 minutes so that Chris Athens could have posted the same thing. ah well. -dave |
He's busy 'working in the garden' - busy night last night...
Post by: Masterer on October 23, 2007, 12:42:18 PM
Nice cock is all on you.
..and it aint even Fleet Week.
Post by: J.J. Blair on October 24, 2007, 10:01:39 PM
Trane was a help in the studio. Really great ears.
Post by: masterhse on April 22, 2008, 11:07:33 PM
His master's voice ...