J.J. Blair wrote on Fri, 08 February 2008 00:26 |
Ever since J Po used them, and then turned Jon Brion on to them, they became the cool thing. |
Brian Kehew wrote on Fri, 08 February 2008 00:41 |
I borrowed one of Jack Puig's once and it made the greatest female vocal I've ever recorded. |
J.J. Blair wrote on Fri, 08 February 2008 09:46 |
No, I'm talking about the one they used on the Grays record. Maybe that one is truly special, because everybody else I know who has used one has not been as excited about them. Yes, I had the Pearlman for a few days, and it just was not my thing. I even posted some sound clips on Klaus' forum, if you want to do a search there. |
Ross Hogarth wrote on Sat, 09 February 2008 01:05 |
I had the pleasure of using Don Gehmans Church mic in the 80's in John Mellencamps Belmont on Johns records and on REM. These 2 Chuech mics were like said, stubby black 47 fet looking mics They were amazing they killed just about any mic put up against them they just had a special thing that was indescribable you know when a sound is 3D it has a special something like the difference between a nice bright capsule and a nice bright real 47 or 67 or C12 you can only describe it as pulling out the detail of a sound in a very special way I never had the chance to use them again after Don stopped making Johns records His 2 mics were amazing tho |
mgod wrote on Fri, 08 February 2008 21:51 |
I have some Easter "Peeps" in our wetbar, approaching 15 years on April 2nd or 3rd. You're welcome to try. They've been the household deities. |
Ross Hogarth wrote on Sat, 09 February 2008 11:11 |
hey i have a c28 if you can make that mic rock, you are my hero ! |
J.J. Blair wrote on Sat, 09 February 2008 18:34 |
Billy, thank you. Do NOT put any fluid on the capsule. |
phantom309 wrote on Fri, 08 February 2008 09:12 | ||
If you're talking about that green body one in 96, that was a special moment. I remember 3 other mics being put up for that session and that one was an easy winner. Was that the Eleni record? Have you heard the Pearlman clone yet? Billy, did you get one of the Bomb Factory mics? |
Billy Yates wrote on Tue, 12 February 2008 08:38 | ||||
I have not heard the Pearlman yet. Clue me into the Bomb Factory mic...never heard of it. Billy Yates |
Billy Yates wrote on Tue, 12 February 2008 09:26 |
. The bare ends are then tied into a half hitch and trimmed of excess material. Works like a charm. The installation took about 20 minutes. Billy Yates |
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This microphone reflects how a great deal of thought and simplicity went into building it. This is a very serviceable unit...all point to point using only a small turret board. I wish all vintage microphones were built this way. |
compasspnt wrote on Tue, 12 February 2008 15:09 |
I heard it was non-denominational. |
dbock wrote on Tue, 12 February 2008 13:37 | ||
I disagree entirely. It was not designed for easy service a la u47, and much of the layout is happenstance. It was designed to prioritize shock mounting of the cable, which is fine. I'm happy most mics were not designed like it. BTW, what's wrong with that one you have? regards, DB |
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It depends on what your definition of "Serviceable" is. To me, it is a very easy unit to work on and very well built. |
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The mic was noisy, due to the tube. I replaced it with one from my private stock, a GE 5 star 5751 |
dbock wrote on Tue, 12 February 2008 16:09 | ||||
you might want to find a 6072, that mic doesn't need (or want)the extra gain of a 5751 regards, DB |
J.J. Blair wrote on Tue, 12 February 2008 15:17 |
Billy, I was gonna say, I'd stick with the 6072. David, any info on the JJP mic? Anything different about that one? |
J.J. Blair wrote on Tue, 12 February 2008 22:01 |
I don;t know that Jack is a schematic and component guy. He's more known for abusing techs than fixing things himself. But I bet David has had the mic on his bench at one point or another. |
Matt Allen wrote on Tue, 19 February 2008 09:40 |
Thanks to Rolff over at Blackbird I got a couple shots of a Church for everyone. They have 2 working, and possibly more in unknown states. |
phantom309 wrote on Tue, 19 February 2008 11:49 |
Matt, could you ask someone there what they recorded the last Alison Krauss vocals with? |
Matt Allen wrote on Tue, 19 February 2008 08:49 |
Capsule Front, also notice pattern selector. It is held in place by a wire that rests on top of it. |
compasspnt wrote on Tue, 19 February 2008 10:12 | ||
With Alison. The microphone was a far lesser ingredient. The preamp even more so. |
tom eaton wrote on Tue, 19 February 2008 11:22 |
http://www.3daudioinc.com/040719_VMIpt1.mp3 go to about 5:45 Gary uses a Sony C800g with Alison. Into a Mastering Labs or V76 pre. He comments on the amount of work he has to do after the fact to remove the stuff he doesn't want, but believes the detail of the mic is worth the post effort. -tom |
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Gary uses a Sony C800g with Alison. |
tom eaton wrote on Tue, 19 February 2008 13:22 |
...a Sony C800g |
compasspnt wrote on Tue, 19 February 2008 23:49 | ||
Yikes! |
compasspnt wrote on Tue, 19 February 2008 22:49 | ||
Yikes! |
Eric Merrill wrote on Tue, 19 February 2008 21:55 | ||||
Note the difference in her vocal sound between her early records and more recent releases. Both are good but they are VERY different. Eric |
tom eaton wrote on Tue, 19 February 2008 22:46 |
Perhaps she could be a guest moderator. t |
compasspnt wrote on Tue, 19 February 2008 23:18 |
Yikes bad. To my ears, the 800 is "pre-EQ'd" in a not very pretty way. It seems to work a lot on Hip-Hop sessions, where everything needs to thrash through the muck. Very bright and harsh sounding. I would guess that's why the post says there was much work to be done after the fact. I would personally not have one of the beasts. For that money, there are many nice mics to be had. |
dbock wrote on Fri, 22 February 2008 01:12 |
That Korby supply bears little resemblance to the stock psu, especially w/the silicon, which is left to your devices to determine the value of. Hell, people own Bradley psu's and thing their Neumanns sound right in this day and age! The mic photo also shows mods which are "value judgements". JJ- John's mics are mostly stock (!), including the brown leather bound psu. Yates- I understand what you are saying based on how many mics you and I have respectively been inside of. It is well built compared to some of the things out there, new and vintage. I just know all the flaws so I can't hold it in quite the esteem that I hold others. It's the curse of designing and thinking from a mfg/service viewpoint: if the performance is not beyond spectacular the flaws become more evident. regards, DB |
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In evaluating and passing a high grade onto a microphone, what gold standard is used? Is it just ears? Reference measurements using test apparatus? |