Post by: grantis on December 11, 2007, 01:21:28 AM
I'm looking into getting a dual G4 1.25 GHZ mac to run Mix (solely for purposes of tracking at this point, I hate the latency of LE). 888 I/O's will come with it (2).
Would I be ill advised to plan to upgrade my Mix system down the road to HD2 Accel (PCI) and think that it will run fine on my G4? Or will I need a G5? Will my 888 I/O's work with HD2 accel? I can't seem to find any good literature on the topic.
Thank you!
Post by: Iain Graham on December 11, 2007, 08:30:32 AM
The G4 will also work, but it'll be slow, and may not feature on Digi's supported computers list.
Post by: E Merrill on December 11, 2007, 12:19:10 PM
Eric
Post by: j.hall on December 11, 2007, 03:16:38 PM
by noisy do you mean the machine itself is noisy? or do they have grounding problems and make the audio noisy? i've never heard of the latter.
my G5 isn't exactly quiet. that's why it's back in the machine room.
if you get an adat bridge and an aurora, that can easily be migrated to an HD system and the converters sound great.
Post by: Podgorny on December 11, 2007, 04:55:52 PM
The new PowerMacs are Intel-only.
Post by: grantis on December 11, 2007, 06:18:59 PM
i highly doubt at G4 would cause noise in the audio, just fan noise. G5's are only quiet if they have the liquid cooling system in them. if not, they're just as loud as a G4.
Post by: E Merrill on December 11, 2007, 09:30:15 PM
Post by: j.hall on December 12, 2007, 12:07:04 PM
doesn't mix support stop at panther?
Post by: grantis on December 12, 2007, 12:30:39 PM
there-in lies my problem...if Dual 1.25 ghz G4's are roughly $400, and G5's are roughly 1k, i'd rather just get the G4 if it will run HD2 PCI. I assumed that all Pro Tools operations run TDM and don't need the CPU's for much. am i wrong in assuming that?
Post by: j.hall on December 12, 2007, 12:57:43 PM
Post by: Jay Kadis on December 12, 2007, 02:35:17 PM
Post by: Berolzheimer on December 13, 2007, 05:34:40 PM
Post by: grantis on December 13, 2007, 06:28:28 PM
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The 888s will work, but only through the legacy port on an HD interface. |
What is the legacy port? Does that come "standard"
?
Post by: Berolzheimer on December 13, 2007, 07:08:07 PM
| grant richard wrote on Thu, 13 December 2007 15:28 | ||
What is the legacy port? Does that come "standard" ? |
It's a port on the HD interfaces. What Iain menat was that to use the 888 with PT HD it has to be plugged into the legacy port on the interface. I hate to say it but I think a lot of the info you're looking for is available on the Digidesign website.
Post by: grantis on December 13, 2007, 08:01:46 PM
| Berolzheimer wrote on Thu, 13 December 2007 18:08 | ||||
It's a port on the HD interfaces. What Iain menat was that to use the 888 with PT HD it has to be plugged into the legacy port on the interface. I hate to say it but I think a lot of the info you're looking for is available on the Digidesign website. |
thanks!!
i just visited the digidesign site about 15 min before i read that and stumbled onto that answer, and you are correct. thank you for the help!
Post by: Iain Graham on December 14, 2007, 09:56:25 AM
And that i exactly what I meant.
Post by: mattrussell on December 14, 2007, 12:24:40 PM
on another note, the machines themselves are VERY noisy compared to a G5. i'm using a dual 2.3PPC machine right now and it is whisper quiet. my G4 is ten times louder than this box - without a doubt.
buying a quad-core Intel Mac, 2.66 this weekend. can't wait.
Post by: neilio on December 16, 2007, 04:36:11 PM
which is the whole point of the tdm architecture...the host cpu really is merely an interface and a controller not processing anything unless you use rtas plugs....
so a dual 1.25 g4 will be a very viable host cpu for a mix system, the thing to watch out for is what os vs. what version of quicktime vs. what version of pro tools you are using...there is very specific window of compatibility for these older systems...but once that is sussed out it will be a rock solid system...
and there is the option to use something like an ad8000 instead of the 888's, albeit at 48k/24bit max...
Post by: tom eaton on December 16, 2007, 06:28:20 PM
I wonder how much variance there is between machines.
t
Post by: Jay Kadis on December 18, 2007, 11:29:05 AM
| tom eaton wrote on Sun, 16 December 2007 15:28 |
My G5 dual 2.7 is WAY louder than my G4 dual 1.42. I couldn't believe it when I first ran the thing. I thought the G5 was supposed to be a quieter machine. Mine is louder than any G4 I've owned (733, dual 1.0, or the dual 1.42). I wonder how much variance there is between machines. t |
Post by: j.hall on December 18, 2007, 11:34:45 PM
| Berolzheimer wrote on Thu, 13 December 2007 18:08 |
I hate to say it but I think a lot of the info you're looking for is available on the Digidesign website. |
100% completely true. though their search engine is TERRIBLE.......almost as bad as their useful information on mix + systems. neither of which i blame them for.
Post by: bblackwood on December 22, 2007, 08:30:05 PM
Of course, I'm just a lowly mastering guy who has zero knowledge of ProTools, so basically ignore everything I say.
Post by: tom eaton on December 23, 2007, 08:33:11 AM
| Jay Kadis wrote on Tue, 18 December 2007 11:29 | ||
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Interesting... in my situation it was the same OS on both machines, 10.4.8. Maybe my machine runs hot? Temperature monitor shows no particular strangeness.
I don't know hot hot it SHOULD be running, though...
-tom