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Title: I don't mean to kick them when they're down, but
Post by: jimlongo on March 11, 2009, 09:35:02 PM
Apparently the Palin-Johnston nuptials are off, and things are not too blissful in Alaska.  I guess there's not as much necessity for the Governor now to continue the shotgun wedding.

huffingtonpost.com/bristol-levi-split- up
Title: Re: I don't mean to kick them when they're down, but
Post by: PRobb on March 11, 2009, 09:54:21 PM
There are a few real positives to deal with. First off, Sarah Palin is not a heartbeat away from the Oval Office. I think we can all breath a HUGE sigh of relief here.

And second, those poor kids have a chance to get out of the news. What they're going through is hard enough without reporters sticking mics in their faces.

Oh yeah, Gov. Palin- how's that "abstinence only" thing working out for you?
Title: Re: I don't mean to kick them when they're down, but
Post by: Barry Hufker on March 11, 2009, 11:02:24 PM
I have forgotten the exact details but there is a large number of states who have hurriedly abandoned the "abstinence only" programs for sex education now the Republicans are out of power.  Thank goodness for that.


I too am glad those kids are out of the spotlight and aren't being forced into a marriage.  How horrible it would have been for those two kids if McCain/Palin had won.  Talk about political prisoners...


Title: Re: I don't mean to kick them when they're down, but
Post by: cerberus on March 12, 2009, 06:40:52 AM
http://idrawpictures.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/palinsgif.jpg
Title: Re: I don't mean to kick them when they're down, but
Post by: ssltech on March 12, 2009, 12:08:06 PM
Bristol apparently said some time ago that Levi came around every day, and described him as being "very Hands-on".

Hands on what, she didn't elaborate... -but maybe that was how they ended up in that mess in the first place.

Oh, by the way; "Bristol" is also a term used in cockney rhyming slang. -How appropriate!

Keith
Title: Re: I don't mean to kick them when they're down, but
Post by: bblackwood on March 12, 2009, 01:22:43 PM
I have to admit, while I was IN NO WAY a McCain/Palin supporter, I find this continued digging on her kid in poor taste. It's over, they're out of the limelight, I'd like to think people would be considerate and mature enough to let it slide instead of using the Saloon as some sort of National Enquirer regarding this.
Title: Re: I don't mean to kick them when they're down, but
Post by: Berolzheimer on March 12, 2009, 01:51:48 PM
Brad, they're public figures who are continuing to endevour to stay public.  Being subject to satire is part of the deal.  Remember too that this family has siphoned lots of money from the commons- our commons.  Don't feel too sorry for them.
If Bristol  wanted privacy she wouldn't be giving interviews on national TV.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/16/bristol-palin-inter view-t_n_167409.html
Title: Re: I don't mean to kick them when they're down, but
Post by: Taproot on March 12, 2009, 02:18:40 PM
bblackwood wrote on Thu, 12 March 2009 11:22

I have to admit, while I was IN NO WAY a McCain/Palin supporter, I find this continued digging on her kid in poor taste.


I've bitten my tongue on the other thread and this one, but I can certainly echo your sentiments. I've tried not to stoop to this level, but it takes a real.......well......coward, to continuously dress down a freakin' CHILD over a stupid, teenage mistake and then continue with it because she has the guts to go on national television, etc. to (I'll admit) "try" to make a statement. It displays a lot more courage than demonstrated here and on the other thread. I'd love to see some video of some the clever geniuses on here at age seventeen. All the smack-talk about her upbringing by "alleged" grown men is laughable. However, it speaks volumes of their upbringing. Classy.
Title: Re: I don't mean to kick them when they're down, but
Post by: ssltech on March 12, 2009, 04:35:41 PM
Nyeeeeeeh... I'm not truly convinced one way or the other.

One the one hand, yes she's now a 'normal person' who might be presumed to be entitled to live her life as she chooses without all the 'cheap shots'.

-But on the other hand, she was apparently perfectly willing to 'toe the line' and get married solely to maintain the 'illusion of perfection' within the Palin family, should her mother's ticket -heaven forfend- have triumphed in the election.

Now that it's all over, of course the shotgun wedding is no longer necessary. -But the fact that she was apparently quite willing to commit her life and that of her child to the care of a self-professed "F@#kin' redneck!!!" for the sake of the Conservative right, is worthy of note.

-And also (to my mind at least) worthy of mockery, even if it is 'high and above the plate'.

I see it both ways... And I have no real problem with it.

Keith
Title: Re: I don't mean to kick them when they're down, but
Post by: PRobb on March 12, 2009, 09:24:30 PM
My real problem is with Sarah. When McCain called, she should have said thank you for the honor, but I have a 17 year old, pregnant unmarried daughter and I can't put her into the national spotlight right now.

She can't possibly have been naive enough to think that it wouldn't be story. Especially as a "family values" candidate.

Putting her ambition before her family was her choice. Nice values.
Title: Re: I don't mean to kick them when they're down, but
Post by: Kassonica on March 12, 2009, 10:22:35 PM
PRobb wrote on Fri, 13 March 2009 12:24

My real problem is with Sarah. When McCain called, she should have said thank you for the honor, but I have a 17 year old, pregnant unmarried daughter and I can't put her into the national spotlight right now.

She can't possibly have been naive enough to think that it wouldn't be story. Especially as a "family values" candidate.

Putting her ambition before her family was her choice. Nice values.


+1

Power is the the powerful drug of all.

It's not victimless though.


Title: Re: I don't mean to kick them when they're down, but
Post by: Fig on March 13, 2009, 03:42:41 PM
PRobb wrote on Thu, 12 March 2009 20:24

My real problem is with Sarah. When McCain called, she should have said thank you for the honor, but I have a 17 year old, pregnant unmarried daughter and I can't put her into the national spotlight right now.


In my mind, this is like the fifteenth or twentieth "reason" on a list...


Title: Re: I don't mean to kick them when they're down, but
Post by: C.O. Jones on March 13, 2009, 04:17:47 PM
bblackwood wrote on Thu, 12 March 2009 12:22

I have to admit, while I was IN NO WAY a McCain/Palin supporter, I find this continued digging on her kid in poor taste. It's over, they're out of the limelight, I'd like to think people would be considerate and mature enough to let it slide instead of using the Saloon as some sort of National Enquirer regarding this.


Delighting in other people's pain is a hallmark of some ideologues that most stridently don the uniform of "goodness and light" to compensate for being, at core, the kind of sick puppy that enjoys stuff like this.  It is a "value" of sorts, just not an attractive or useful one.

Jones
Title: Re: I don't mean to kick them when they're down, but
Post by: PRobb on March 13, 2009, 04:20:31 PM
C.O. Jones wrote on Fri, 13 March 2009 16:17

bblackwood wrote on Thu, 12 March 2009 12:22

I have to admit, while I was IN NO WAY a McCain/Palin supporter, I find this continued digging on her kid in poor taste. It's over, they're out of the limelight, I'd like to think people would be considerate and mature enough to let it slide instead of using the Saloon as some sort of National Enquirer regarding this.


Delighting in other people's pain is a hallmark of some ideologues that most stridently don the uniform of "goodness and light" to compensate for being, at core, the kind of sick puppy that enjoys stuff like this.  It is a "value" of sorts, just not an attractive or useful one.

Jones

Who is "delighting in other people's pain"? I see no sign of that here.
Title: Re: I don't mean to kick them when they're down, but
Post by: C.O. Jones on March 13, 2009, 04:28:43 PM
PRobb wrote on Fri, 13 March 2009 15:20

C.O. Jones wrote on Fri, 13 March 2009 16:17

bblackwood wrote on Thu, 12 March 2009 12:22

I have to admit, while I was IN NO WAY a McCain/Palin supporter, I find this continued digging on her kid in poor taste. It's over, they're out of the limelight, I'd like to think people would be considerate and mature enough to let it slide instead of using the Saloon as some sort of National Enquirer regarding this.


Delighting in other people's pain is a hallmark of some ideologues that most stridently don the uniform of "goodness and light" to compensate for being, at core, the kind of sick puppy that enjoys stuff like this.  It is a "value" of sorts, just not an attractive or useful one.

Jones

Who is "delighting in other people's pain"? I see no sign of that here.


Water?  What water?


Said the fish.

Jones
Title: Re: I don't mean to kick them when they're down, but
Post by: bigaudioblowhard on March 13, 2009, 04:52:58 PM
ssltech wrote on Thu, 12 March 2009 10:08

Bristol apparently said some time ago that Levi came around every day, and described him as being "very Hands-on".

Hands on what, she didn't elaborate... -but maybe that was how they ended up in that mess in the first place.

Oh, by the way; "Bristol" is also a term used in cockney rhyming slang. -How appropriate!

Keith


I'm splittin hairs here, but (though appropriate) the notion is to drop the actual word that rhymes from the phrase and refer to (say) a pistol as "lady".

So, for instance, one might say "'ave a butchers at this lady".  Butchers, from Butchers Hook, (look) and Lady for "Lady of Bristol" (pistol)

Please correct me if I'm wrong, actual Cockney told me this, but he may have been a Deep Fat Fryer.

bab
Title: Re: I don't mean to kick them when they're down, but
Post by: ssltech on March 13, 2009, 05:34:07 PM
Nah, 'e wasn't telling you pork (pies) me old china (plate), That's entirely Yehudi (Menuhin).

Hence "a pair of Bristols". -I believe that I did in fact drop the rhyme and only use the leading word.

Where non-speakers are present, and the desire is to not 'exclude' them from the conversation, the second (rhyming) word is usually included, but out of respect.

Hence if I was with some other native rhyming slang speakers, I might say "the other Barry, some fridge left the nuclear after too a bit too much tiddly". A non-speaker might struggle a little TOO much with that, so if I knew I was in mixed company I'd say "THe other Barry White, some fridge freezer left the nuclear sub after too much tiddly-wink".

Of course, this may still be rather obscure, but it is indeed how it's done.

I'm a little puzzled though... Yes your china (plate) was telling the gold (tooth), but I'm not sure where you're referring to?

Keith
Title: Re: I don't mean to kick them when they're down, but
Post by: rnicklaus on March 13, 2009, 05:38:29 PM
Maybe Sarah Palin was being less than honest with the American people when she said her daughter would get married after the election.

You have to wonder what Ann Coulter thinks about this....
Title: Re: I don't mean to kick them when they're down, but
Post by: Taproot on March 13, 2009, 06:31:35 PM
C.O. Jones wrote on Fri, 13 March 2009 14:28

PRobb wrote on Fri, 13 March 2009 15:20

C.O. Jones wrote on Fri, 13 March 2009 16:17

bblackwood wrote on Thu, 12 March 2009 12:22

I have to admit, while I was IN NO WAY a McCain/Palin supporter, I find this continued digging on her kid in poor taste. It's over, they're out of the limelight, I'd like to think people would be considerate and mature enough to let it slide instead of using the Saloon as some sort of National Enquirer regarding this.


Delighting in other people's pain is a hallmark of some ideologues that most stridently don the uniform of "goodness and light" to compensate for being, at core, the kind of sick puppy that enjoys stuff like this.  It is a "value" of sorts, just not an attractive or useful one.

Jones

Who is "delighting in other people's pain"? I see no sign of that here.


Water?  What water?

Said the fish.



That's pretty good. I perceived it in a different light, on this thread and this one:
http://recforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/t/27009/13657/

Beavis!?

Yeah, Butthead!?

Said the coward(s)

Yeah! Hu hu...hu...hu hu.......uuuumm....hu...hu, I hear ya....AND THEN....hu hu...hu...hu hu.......uuuumm....hu...hum


Title: Re: I don't mean to kick them when they're down, but
Post by: Barry Hufker on March 13, 2009, 07:55:23 PM
rnicklaus wrote on Fri, 13 March 2009 16:38

Maybe Sarah Palin was being less than honest with the American people when she said her daughter would get married after the election.

You have to wonder what Ann Coulter thinks about this....


Republicans never mind applying a double standard when they find themselves in the wrong.  It is Cheney's lesbian daughter, Bristol's illegitimate child, Senator Soandso's hooker, Senator I'mnotgay in the airport bathroom, Preacher I'mnotgay soliciting a gay prostitute...   Eventually every Republican Kettle would be caught by every Republican Pot.

Keith:

I spent an enjoyable hour this afternoon reading on the internet about Cockney rhyming slang.  It was quite enjoyable and spurred on by your posts.

Barry
Title: Re: I don't mean to kick them when they're down, but
Post by: Larrchild on March 13, 2009, 10:33:36 PM
That is very Ginger Beer.

I don't condone the criticism, but I also wish these people would stop pretending some hymn or prayer makes them less flawed than the rest of us. Both sides are messed up. One side admits it more freely and doesn't go overboard to be Ozzie and Harriet with a closet full of bones.