Augustine Leudar wrote on Fri, 23 December 2005 09:18 |
If any, which speaker will take their place as the industry standard monitor ? |
Ashermusic wrote on Fri, 23 December 2005 16:33 |
Here in L.A. more and more I am seeing Dynaudio BM6As. |
Eric Rudd wrote on Fri, 23 December 2005 15:34 |
Speaker opinions are like assholes....everyone's got a pair. Eric |
Giovanni Speranza wrote on Fri, 23 December 2005 23:45 |
But if you still want to make real music i still suggest the Genelec because they help you a lot. |
Augustine Leudar wrote on Fri, 23 December 2005 09:18 |
Although generally disliked or years NS10s were the industry standard monitors allowing studios to reference on the same gear worldwide. |
Giovanni Speranza wrote on Fri, 23 December 2005 17:45 |
I think that there are some false myths about the NS-10 The NS 10 were used in top productions just to balance the voice vs the music. PERIOD. |
Bob Olhsson wrote on Sat, 24 December 2005 18:04 | ||
This is not at all why people ever used NS-10s! It's all about the three-way relationship between full-range mains, real world speakers and NS-10s. They remain a standard quite simply because they work very well as a reference point for OTHER speakers exactly as JBL 4310s and Auratones did before them. |
Augustine Leudar wrote on Sat, 24 December 2005 13:18 |
...Yes I know, if its sounds good on ns10s itll sound good on anything etc etc however... |
Bob Olhsson wrote on Mon, 26 December 2005 16:24 | ||
You can't isolate the NS-10 from being just one point of reference within the context of a mixer's home listening setup, some of the better control room mains and the full range speakers today's top mastering engineers use. Nobody good has ever just mixed on NS-10s and then trusted on faith that everything is always going to sound great. Great mixers almost always check out their mixes in a wide variety of listening environments. Monitors are chosen by the RESULTS, not by how pleasing they sound in the control room. |
Bob Olhsson wrote on Mon, 26 December 2005 17:49 |
I'm hearing good things about Adams. Lots of people haven't found anything that works as well for them as NS-10s. Since they are no longer available, some folks will probably move back in the direction of using a larger number of alternatives in the control room like we did before NS-10s and NS-4s which worked even better but almost immediately went away. |
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...Considering many engineers seems to slag them off as the worst speaker ever its amazing how much good work has been done with ns10s. I wonder why people hate them so, im quite fond of them myself. I think its probably because its human nature to moan. |
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It's all about the three-way relationship between full-range mains, real world speakers and NS-10s. |
Bill Urick wrote on Mon, 10 March 2008 07:48 |
Mr. Manning, what were your feelings about the Event ASP8's used on the Panic session? Did you use these for mixing as well? |
aranos wrote on Sun, 16 March 2008 11:50 |
it'll be iPod earbuds from now on! |
compasspnt wrote on Mon, 10 March 2008 14:40 | ||
The more I use the SP8's, the more I like them. For tracking/overdubbing, they remind me somehow of the days when we used "loud" non-internally-amped "old-style" mon's like the JBL's or Altecs. I can get some more reasonable vol without straining the speakers constantly. Their overall signature is much like my original version) 1031's. And they work much better for such work than my 1032's. For mixing, on that album I did use the 1031's as the "mains," and cross-referenced with the SP8's. I don't know the 8's well enough yet to make critical mix decisions at low levels. I do also plan on experimenting with my SP6's for that purpose soon though. |
Andy Simpson wrote on Fri, 28 March 2008 13:13 |
Terry, did you ever dust off the old Altec A7s of your youth? |
compasspnt wrote on Sat, 29 March 2008 01:49 | ||
I actually still have one pair mounted in the soffit in our B studio tracking room, but I haven't turned them on in years. |
Andy Simpson wrote on Sat, 29 March 2008 10:27 |
What was the last thing you heard through them? |
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Do they still work? |
compasspnt wrote on Sun, 30 March 2008 05:25 | ||||
Wow, I can't even remember.
Well, I will just have to turn them on and see! |
Dominick wrote on Sat, 19 April 2008 20:38 |
These are obviously the new reference monitor |
Han S. wrote on Thu, 03 April 2008 16:52 |
For me the NS10 is still the standard, it's a speaker you'll love or hate, there's not much in between, but it's a reliable monitor and with a decent sub you can make really good sounding mixes. The NS10 doesn't match with every amp, on some amps it sounds horrible, but find a good amp and work very hard. And then even the NS10 will sound great and you're a winner. |
dibbs wrote on Sat, 10 May 2008 19:48 |
andy, i use the shure E5 and ultimate ears 5pro. the E5s have great low end but they're universal fit. the 5pros are custom but lack low end. i should have gone for the ambient feature, but that's neither here nor there. both are dual-driver types. i use both for tracking but not for mixing. they need a very quiet amp to work properly. by quiet i mean a very high S/N and also an amp that doesn't get very loud, as these are extremely sensitive drivers. i have a firepod but it is far too noisy. surprisingly, the furman remote mixer (HRM-16) is quiet enough. hope this helps. ~db |
Giovanni Speranza wrote on Fri, 23 December 2005 16:45 |
I think that there are some false myths about the NS-10 The NS 10 were used in top productions just to balance the voice vs the music. PERIOD. All those NS-10 finding a place over SSLs, NEVEs and behind ALL the sacred monsters of the'80s created a false myth. Too many people (me included) thought that those were mixing tools. Since the mid '90s the Genelec loudspeakers became a standard for many studios thanks to their precision. It's really easy to EQ with them. During the last 5 years the sonic character of the top 20 music is no more important. It's the panties that matters. But if you still want to make real music i still suggest the Genelec because they help you a lot. |