mdbeh wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 17:45 |
Nice review! I've been curious about the Reflection Filter for a while, and it's great to get an informed opinion. |
J.J. Blair wrote on Fri, 06 November 2009 17:39 |
Do you get the same result with the packing blankets, but no filter? I've always considered these way too small to be of any usefulness with cardioid microphones. |
J.J. Blair wrote on Fri, 06 November 2009 17:39 |
Do you get the same result with the packing blankets, but no filter? I've always considered these way too small to be of any usefulness with cardioid microphones. |
Robert Shelton wrote on Sun, 08 November 2009 16:22 | ||
JJ, have you tried this device or are you just assuming that it wouldn't work based on the size of it? I have my room treated Ethan Winer style, including an absorptive cloud hanging from the ceiling, and when I record acoustic guitar it still sounds like I'm playing through a flanger. I've wondered whether this device would help. |
rick-slo wrote on Sun, 08 November 2009 19:55 |
...I sent them back because I felt they imparted some coloration I did not like and because it was just too inconvenient moving the now quite heavy and cumbersome mike stands around to position for the best stereo sound. |
maarvold wrote on Mon, 09 November 2009 13:25 | ||
I agree that the setup is somewhat cumbersome, but then, so is creating a proper acoustic for recording where none currently exists. But the vocal stuff I recorded using the Reflexion Filter--in conjunction with a Klaus Heyne-modded U67 and EAR microphone amplifier (as Tim de Paravicini calls it)--well, let's just say that I am pretty picky and I can't imagining wanting anything better-sounding in a female vocal. So I would not echo the statement, at least in my circumstance, that using the Reflexion Filter "imparted some coloration I did not like"; on the contrary, I was amazed at how the sound of my untreated spare bedroom did not intrude into the recording--especially given that the singer was 10-12 inches from the mic. For the record, I reached my conclusions while doing an evaluation (using he Reflexion Filter) with 4 or 5 different expensive tube microphones and 4 different high-quality preamps and didn't hear any unexpected color from any combination. The monitoring environment where I reached these conclusions has had an extreme amount of attention to acoustical treatment, monitoring, etc. And the 67/EAR won the evaluation for that particular singer. |
billiard wrote on Tue, 10 November 2009 08:10 |
From the perspective of justifying the expense, for the price of one Reflexion Filter, you could buy approximately twenty blankets, or you could build several large broadband absorbers (or gobos). |
PaulyD wrote on Sat, 14 November 2009 09:41 |
An alternative to the SE Reflexion filter you may want to consider is the RealTraps Portable Vocal Booth: http://www.realtraps.com/p_pvb.htm I've never tried one, but it sure looks like it would get the job done. Paul |
J.J. Blair wrote on Thu, 14 January 2010 17:43 |
So, does this mean he didn't like it? I'm confused. |
rankus wrote on Mon, 23 November 2009 15:30 |
I bought some 1 1/2" PVC pipe and fittings from home depot and built a frame that breaks down for storage... Hang some packing blankets on it and voila! Portable Vocal booth that sounds amazing at a fraction of the cost of any of the above |
Hank Alrich wrote on Sat, 16 January 2010 08:48 |
Do you awaken with comb filtered hair? |
rankus wrote on Mon, 23 November 2009 14:30 |
I bought some 1 1/2" PVC pipe and fittings from home depot and built a frame that breaks down for storage... Hang some packing blankets on it and voila! Portable Vocal booth that sounds amazing at a fraction of the cost of any of the above |
thinman wrote on Sat, 23 January 2010 18:44 | ||
Any chance you could put up a picture of it? I'd like to see it. . |
compasspnt wrote on Mon, 25 January 2010 06:13 |
Rick, have done a very similar thing here, but had to paint the pvc tubes...yours appear to be black originally...? Can you get already-painted pvc? |
PaulyD wrote on Sat, 14 November 2009 13:41 |
An alternative to the SE Reflexion filter you may want to consider is the RealTraps Portable Vocal Booth: http://www.realtraps.com/p_pvb.htm I've never tried one, but it sure looks like it would get the job done. Paul |
rankus wrote on Mon, 25 January 2010 11:02 | ||
Oh shoot! Yes, they are ABS plastic (drain/sewer pipe) rather than PVC. My bad! It comes in black as a stock color. I know it's not an original idea... I'm glad to see others have designed the same type of setup. Necessity being the mother of invention and all (or was that Frank Zappa) |
rankus wrote on Sat, 23 January 2010 22:17 | ||
Sure thing! I just snapped some iPhone pics and will post them later tonight or tomorrow morning (pst) |
thinman wrote on Sat, 13 February 2010 13:00 | ||||
Rick, I just made my way back to this thread. Thank you for taking the time to take and post the pictures. Now, all I need to know is how a plaid blanket would affect the sound versus a solid color or perhaps a leopard patterned blanket; or better yet a snow leopard blanket. Of course the snow leopard blanket may not be backwards compatible with the black ABS pipes. Terry, maybe you shouldn't have been so hasty to paint your PVC pipes black. Seriously though, thanks. I've been thinking of getting Ethan's rig but this would be less costly and the frame could break down and live in my garage when not in use. Interesting that the singer faces 'outward' from your rig but 'into' the Real Traps Vocal Booth. . |
thinman wrote on Tue, 23 February 2010 01:19 |
Interesting that the singer faces 'outward' from your rig but 'into' the Real Traps Vocal Booth. . |
GerhardS wrote on Wed, 24 February 2010 15:06 | ||
The singer sings from 'Live End' into 'Dead End'. Why? Has already been used back in 1924: http://www.picbutler.de/archiv.html?bild=115995&bild_nam e=koenigswusterhausenreflectionfilter90ou9.jpg |