electrical wrote on Tue, 20 December 2005 22:57 |
This came up as part of the discussion of a lecture I gave. I'd like to see what the panel thinks regarding this question: Which has proven to be more important to music and culture generally, mainstream music of the 1980s or underground music of the 1980s. I'll use Wang Chung and the Minutemen as exemplars of their respective idioms. Show your work. |
TotalSonic wrote on Tue, 20 December 2005 18:18 |
Public Enemy vs. The Stooges |
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John Oate's mustache vs. Gabe Kaplan's |
Plush wrote on Tue, 20 December 2005 19:04 |
Absurd choices in your poll. Please try to be less cryptic. thankyasomuch, Hudsonek |
electrical wrote on Wed, 21 December 2005 00:09 | ||
I think they are pretty good examples of their idioms. Are you unfamiliar with Wang Chung? They were at least as popular as Quarterflash, and orders of magnitude more popular than the Minutemen. |
lucey wrote on Tue, 20 December 2005 19:52 |
So what do you mean by important? Influential? Creative? Timeless? What? |
electrical wrote on Tue, 20 December 2005 22:57 |
I'll use Wang Chung and the Minutemen as exemplars of their respective idioms. |
TotalSonic wrote on Wed, 21 December 2005 00:15 | ||||
True during the years they existed - but completely untrue now - I'd say Minutemen have a heckuva lot more fans than the WC do. |
pipelineaudio wrote on Wed, 21 December 2005 01:05 |
Lets see, wuss-ass pop40 cover band vs. wuss-ass artsy fartsy band who I accidentally boight since a record clerk stuck it in the punk bin because he didnt know where to put it |
pipelineaudio wrote on Wed, 21 December 2005 02:05 |
How bout Madonna vs Dayglo Abortions instead? |
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Yes, other your completely baseless characterization of The Minutemen, the band whose combination of aesthetic and work ethic can pretty much obliterate all but a handful of bands Fugazi, You got it, smart guy. Dan |
electrical wrote on Tue, 20 December 2005 17:57 |
mainstream music of the 1980s or underground music of the 1980s. |
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Then again, you ever see the Big Star poster that shows the family tree of bands who give them credit as being a huge influence? It's rather strange to see how much modern music wouldn't exist as we know it if this relatively unknown band from the early 70's hadn't done their thing... |
rnicklaus wrote on Tue, 20 December 2005 19:10 |
Seeing how two of the members of Wang Chung went on to do other great things, this should be an easy one. Both Vera Wang AND Connie Chung had huge success outside of the band. |
Alex Maiolo wrote on Thu, 22 December 2005 04:57 |
Wang Chung were good at what they did and I hope they are living comfortably in a country house somewhere. However, if you're asking me if I Want New Wave Or The Truth, I'm going with the latter because I've built my life around it. |
carne_de_res wrote on Thu, 22 December 2005 20:34 |
i'd say the Minutemen resulted more important in the end. if them and a handful of other bands hadn't mercilessly toured every corner of the USA and made such brilliant records the underground scene wouldn't have developed at all. the Minutemen, Sonic Youth , Big Black, Beat Happening and other great indipendent bands (and their labels) helped build the underground scene and paved the way for the so-called "grunge" breakout in the 90's (Nirvana, Pixies, Breeders et al.). the Minutemen, she's such a great band. she's more important than that faghina Wang Chung. |
Statick wrote on Sat, 24 December 2005 11:14 |
my vote goes for the underground, always. there is always much more interesting work going on with lesser known acts. i'm lucky in that where i live in the UK (near bristol) has one of the most vibrant underground music scenes in the world at the moment. keep an ear out guys, you'll be hearing a lot from this city in the coming few years... |
telefunky wrote on Wed, 21 December 2005 21:53 |
Curve Dominant wrote: I noticed you never use bands like Duran Duran or Depeche Mode or New Order as your examples. Out of all the mainstream 80's pop bands You are obviously not old enough to remember the 80's if you are under the impression that Depeche Mode and New Order were "mainstream 80's pop bands". They were played on only a few stations in even fewer cities, and the kids in school that liked those kinds of bands were very much on the cutting edge. I think this is a general misunderstanding of 80's music that is prevalent in 20 somethings today. Mainstream in the 80's was Phil Collins, Madonna, Michael Jackson, Prince, Asia, Men at Work, Huey Lewis, J. Geils, etc. |
Bob Olhsson wrote on Mon, 26 December 2005 01:18 |
To quote my first wife, an exceptionally talented sculptor, music is NOT art no matter how hard the backstage-pass/groupie seeking pop music reviewers try to spin it! |
rnicklaus wrote on Sat, 24 December 2005 16:54 |
When you claim Minutemen records are "widely available" where is that? It is much easier to go out and find 20th Century Masters on Wang Chung (not that I would want to) than a Minutemen album. |
Nick Eipers wrote on Sun, 25 December 2005 20:10 | ||
Locally, I've seen Minutemen albums in Tower, Virgin, and any number of independently owned or small chain stores. Some of the larger selection Best Buys may have too. My point being they are stil in print. Yes, it's easy to find (IMO - lame) 20th Cen masters, but, as I tried to suggest in my post, greatest hits are a different animal than proper albums. I don't think you could find any proper Wang Chung albums in any store, I haven't seen one in years. I believe most of them are out of print ("Huang Chung" for instance). Once you're "in-print" only via greatest hits, well, that's a sad thing in my opinion. |
maxim wrote on Sun, 25 December 2005 22:19 |
and while we're not on your forum in the marsh pit, i'll say this too: MUSIC IS FREE! |
Kenny Gioia wrote on Sun, 01 January 2006 14:00 | ||
You're an ass. Your music is free because it is worthless. Some of us were blessed with talent. Soorry. |
Kenny Gioia wrote on Sun, 01 January 2006 13:56 |
Nothing disgusts me more than an Artist or Band who believes that they are important. |
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Hey! This is the second time someone has been a dick on this forum! Congratulations Kenny Gioia, You're our second dick! Happy New Year, dick! |
electrical wrote on Sun, 01 January 2006 14:21 | ||||
Hey! This is the second time someone has been a dick on this forum! Congratulations Kenny Gioia, You're our second dick! Happy New Year, dick! |
electrical wrote on Sun, 01 January 2006 14:24 | ||
Nothing disgusts me more than the postmodern notion that it's cool to be insubstantial, and better yet to be trivial. |
maxim wrote on Sun, 01 January 2006 22:33 |
kenny wrote: "You're an ass." it's like being insulted by george bush.. kinda warm and fuzzy and at the same time amusing "Your music is free because it is worthless." me and a whole bunch of decomposing composers "Some of us were blessed with talent." you and wang chung "Soorry." never mind |
maxim wrote on Sun, 01 January 2006 22:37 |
kenny also wrote: "I was merely sticking up for a friend who surely doesn't deserve a fuck you from one of your minion." correct me if i'm wrong, but i don't think bob really needs your help "Don't FUCK with me dickwad." i'm sure that's the LAST thing on his mind |
Kenny Gioia wrote on Sun, 01 January 2006 22:31 |
I was merely sticking up for a friend who surely doesn't deserve a fuck you from one of your minion. Bob Ohlson has forgotten more than most of you know. Give him respect or cower away. Don't FUCK with me dickwad. I admire your principles but your records suck ass. Happy New Year Semi Pro Day Rate Mother Fucka!!!!! |
telefunky wrote on Wed, 21 December 2005 18:53 |
Curve Dominant wrote: I noticed you never use bands like Duran Duran or Depeche Mode or New Order as your examples. Out of all the mainstream 80's pop bands You are obviously not old enough to remember the 80's if you are under the impression that Depeche Mode and New Order were "mainstream 80's pop bands". They were played on only a few stations in even fewer cities, and the kids in school that liked those kinds of bands were very much on the cutting edge. I think this is a general misunderstanding of 80's music that is prevalent in 20 somethings today. Mainstream in the 80's was Phil Collins, Madonna, Michael Jackson, Prince, Asia, Men at Work, Huey Lewis, J. Geils, etc. |
maxim wrote on Sun, 01 January 2006 22:45 |
bob and i have RESPECTFULLY disagreed on a number of occasions (at least, from my side) |
maxim wrote on Sun, 01 January 2006 22:45 |
you're kidding, right? that's you in the cute picture , isn't it? |
electrical wrote on Sun, 01 January 2006 22:51 |
I have a minion? I am Semi Pro? My records suck ass? I am a dickwad? You are a class act, Kenny Gioia. And restless. You have your own forum to occupy yourself, and you still find time to come over here and tell people their music sucks. If I had ever heard anything you've done, maybe I could return the compliments. As it sits, you get to wake up tomorrow and be Kenny Gioia for another day, and I get to be me. Good luck with that. |
maxim wrote on Sun, 01 January 2006 23:01 |
steve wrote: btw, i do apologise for the dig i had at bob's forum, i feel i may have stooped to kenny's level |
maxim wrote on Sun, 01 January 2006 23:01 |
in my defense, though, i hate being told there's something i can't discuss |
Kenny Gioia wrote on Mon, 02 January 2006 00:33 |
You always struck me as someone with their head so far up their own ass that they didn't know what the rest of the world was up to. |
Kenny Gioia wrote on Mon, 02 January 2006 00:33 |
This does not surprise me. You always struck me as someone with their head so far up their own ass that they didn't know what the rest of the world was up to. |
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Oh. And yes. I do find the time to come over to your dirt pile and defend such Legends as Bob Ohlsson. |
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If you paid any attention, you would see that this was not an unprovoked attack. But I guess with that pittance (day rate) you so gladly receive, your spare time is a little more precious than mine. |
electrical wrote on Mon, 02 January 2006 01:01 | ||
"Someone" is a singular noun. You can tell because it has the word "one" in it. That means it's singular. "They" is a plural pronoun, as are all its forms. You can't use one in the subject and another in the predicate like that. Try to keep up with the 10-year-olds, Ken. I don't wnat everyone thinking we're a bunch of illiterates over here in the dirt pile. |
electrical wrote on Mon, 02 January 2006 01:01 | ||
I don't recall anyone mentioning Bob. I like him fine. Smart fellow. Not prone to belittling others. He is worthy of emulation. |
electrical wrote on Mon, 02 January 2006 01:01 | ||
When did I provoke you, fuckstick? And what the fuck does it matter to anyone but my clients how much I charge them? Specifically, why do you care? |
Kenny Gioia wrote on Mon, 02 January 2006 01:14 |
Maybe if you starting taking points on records the way the rest of us do, you wouldn't need to take a part time job as an over zealous chest protruding club bouncer. |
Kenny Gioia wrote on Mon, 02 January 2006 06:14 | ||||||||||||
Perhaps you're new to Internet forums. It is common knowledge that one only attacks other's grammar when one has run out of ideas or points. By the way, what's a "wnat".
Than re-read the thread. I was attacking Maxim. You jumped in with your dick waving in the air not realizing that the girls had already left the orgy.
"You" didn't provoke me. Maxim provoked Bob. Am I movin' too fast for ya'? And then you provoked me when you called me a Dick, Dick. Do you often jump in the middle of two strangers and start throwing punches at one of them? Maybe if you starting taking points on records the way the rest of us do, you wouldn't need to take a part time job as an over zealous chest protruding club bouncer. Happy New Year. |
electrical wrote on Mon, 02 January 2006 11:01 | ||
"Someone" is a singular noun. You can tell because it has the word "one" in it. That means it's singular. "They" is a plural pronoun, as are all its forms. |
Curve Dominant wrote on Mon, 02 January 2006 02:36 |
Gee, what a nice New Year's treat this is, seeing my two most favorite audio genius heroes getting along so nicely. You guys are SUCH an inspiration for newbies like me. Don't go changing, please. |
Ron Steele wrote on Mon, 02 January 2006 01:55 |
Kenny, I always thought you had the potential to be a dick on occasion, but now it's.................. "plain as day" .......... that not only our you a big dick, but your also a jag-off. Is that how Bob O. would really want you to defend him? Acting like such a dick head? Steve, I think you should make Kenny your first official banning for being such a rude dick head. It doesn't seem like he will become less of dick, but it seems like his dick will certainly become over inflated to the point of no end. |
Eric Greedy wrote on Mon, 02 January 2006 02:55 |
doo-doo-doo-doo-doo * "twilight zone" style" ....is this the old record pit??? |
Aardvark wrote on Mon, 02 January 2006 10:56 |
These two "audio genius heroes" make records for a living and have for years... Cheers, and very best of the New Year!! Aardvark |
maxim wrote on Mon, 02 January 2006 06:21 |
i think it's time you guys took little kenny back to the marsh pit, where he belongs he's a little bit cranky either tired or hungry, i can't tell |
DivideByZero wrote on Mon, 02 January 2006 11:51 |
It's hard not to pile on Kenny, what a fucking asshole. |
DivideByZero wrote on Mon, 02 January 2006 11:51 |
Glad I don't have to work with him. If given a choice, I'd rather flip burgers, or dub mp3s thru a Digi 001. How.. artful. M |
Kenny Gioia wrote on Mon, 02 January 2006 11:47 | ||
You fuckin' toole. Of course Bob wouldn't respond in this manner. If he did, I wouldn't have to jump in. I'm his buffer. It is not in his best interest to sink to the level of an Internet Underachiever. I could give two dead chickens what anybody thinks about me. And since when is being a Jag Off worse than being a Dick. You gotta do better than that you Rusty Trombone Mouthpiece. Oh and yeah, my dick gets hugely over-inflated when I'm matched up against a group of adolescent green can't get my rod out of my pants quick enuff punks with matching outfits. And NO. Steve will not be banning me anytime soon. Both sides have treaty agreement in which Steve has already crossed the line. If anything, I can get him dis-REPed. Peace |
dwoz wrote on Mon, 02 January 2006 10:23 | ||||
Except when its a neutered possessive adjective. "...their" here attaches to the FOLLOWING phrase "head up their own ass", NOT to the preceding phrase "someone". |
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In this usage, Kenneth has indicated a member ("someone") of a class of persons ("they who have their head up their own ass"). The possessive adjective "their" attaches to (modifes) the class, not the member. |
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If he had used "who has" instead of "with", you'd be spot-on. But that word "with" changes everything. It indicates a joining between two subjects ("someone", and "they who have their heads up their own ass"). If the second subject had been third person singular (i.e. "one's head so far up one's ass", or a gender-specific version of that same..."his head so far up his ass"), then the word "with" would indicate that the second subject is a characteristic of the first subject, rather than the entirely different result when the second subject is a third person plural, where the effect is to indicate a membership in a characteristic class. |
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Strictly speaking, not the most proper of forms he could have possibly selected, but strictly speaking, not entirely incorrect. |
Bob Olhsson wrote on Sun, 25 December 2005 19:18 |
To quote my first wife, an exceptionally talented sculptor, music is NOT art no matter how hard the backstage-pass/groupie seeking pop music reviewers try to spin it! I think it's a lot more like sports than like art because it's all about individual and team performance. The only thing anybody can expect to get paid for is entertainment value. That depends on communication, accessibility and having something to say that people find engaging. |
Kenny Gioia wrote on Mon, 02 January 2006 11:47 |
And NO. Steve will not be banning me anytime soon. Both sides have treaty agreement in which Steve has already crossed the line. If anything, I can get him dis-REPed. |
Kenny Gioia wrote on Mon, 02 January 2006 03:31 |
Happy New Year Semi Pro Day Rate Mother Fucka!!!!! |
DivideByZero wrote on Mon, 02 January 2006 14:28 |
Someone call a plummer, the Marsh is leaking.. |
jordancgeiger wrote on Mon, 02 January 2006 14:42 |
what are kenny's credits by the way? |
jordancgeiger wrote on Mon, 02 January 2006 11:42 |
what are kenny's credits by the way? |
peyemp wrote on Mon, 02 January 2006 15:04 |
This shouldn't be a showdown about credits... IIRC, Kenny has worked with; Aaron Carter, Mandy Moore, and he had a hand in some stuff from Hall and Oates. And in Steve's corner, we have; Big Black and Shellac, Jesus Lizard, The Pixies, Jon Spencer Blues Explosion, Nirvana, PJ Harvey, Shadowy Men on a Shadowy Planet, Jimmy Page/Robert Plant, Man or Astro-man, Tortoise, The Auteurs, Urge Overkill, Low, Guided by Voices, Chevelle, Nina Nastasia, Pigface, Nine Inch Nails, Mogwai, The Breeders, and many others... |
peyemp wrote on Mon, 02 January 2006 15:58 |
I guess Kenny G is also a songwriter; http://www.lyricsfreak.com/a/angela-ammons/7922.html |
pounce wrote on Mon, 02 January 2006 16:39 |
maybe the minutemen and wang chung are also big dicks. on topic again, who was more important - wang chung or ron steele. |
electrical wrote on Tue, 03 January 2006 00:00 | ||||||
Which is an impossible phrase, grammatically, unless there is someone who, by himself is a group, but this group also only has one ass. |
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He only uses the singular construction, except for the mis-use of "they" and "their." If he had said, "someone, one of those with their heads so far up their own asses that they..." He'd be okay. As it is, he's speaking gibberish.
See, he never mentions the class. He simply mis-uses his pronouns. |
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Strictly speaking, it would be red-pencilled in a fifth-grade book report. It's gibberish. |
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Now here Post by: Ron Steele on January 02, 2006, 06:03:55 PM I think Steve was very "spot on" regarding Kenny's bad grammar. Here is an example of how a more legitimate and qualified statement similar to Kenny's attempt at proper grammar should read: "Dwoz, you always struck me as SOMEBODY with YOUR head so far up YOUR own ass that YOU WOULDN'T know what the rest of the world was up to." When written properly there is nothing inessential or superfluous left out. Post by: peyemp on January 02, 2006, 06:05:04 PM
Who is more important; Kenny or God ? From Kenny's posts, it seems he has already cast his vote... Kenny I Chapter 12 Verse 6-8 "And I, the Lord Kenny shall strike down ye semi pro heathen with poor grammaticalness. And yea, the seas shall part and I shall bask in my album points. And ye shall not speak thy day-rate tongues for 40 days and 40 nights until I un-free thy music." Post by: Tidewater on January 02, 2006, 06:07:26 PM He also said the Minutemen. M Post by: Kenny Gioia on January 02, 2006, 06:41:02 PM Side note: If the world was the size of a cue ball, it would be smoother than one. Point = We are not important. Get real. Back to the Summary. Someone attacked Bob Ohlsson by telling him loudly in all caps. MUSIC IS FREE. A clear insult. I told that prick that he was an ass. Some, new to the moderating world, moderator called me a DICK. I, of course, said nothing directly to this Semen Depository but as a leader of the douche cunts he felt the ridiculous need to defend one of them. Then the rest of his fag fraternity decide to continue attacking me, checking my resume and accusing me of thinking I am a God. I have never said anything in this thread about how great "I" am. I did mention that I have talent but that isn't so rare. If this is how you treat someone who defends a real "Legend" I pity you. The Albinians shall be defeated. And quicker than you think. Post by: Tidewater on January 02, 2006, 06:50:47 PM Even dicks can be funny, ever see Kentucky Fried Movie? M Post by: Ron Steele on January 02, 2006, 06:59:29 PM You show up here throwing around 5th grade insults at Maxim because he said "music is free". There was a difference of opinion, not an exchange of insults. So what. No where did Maxim say , "music is free" Bob, and by the way, your an ass. Take your BS back to your own forum. Post by: bbkong on January 02, 2006, 07:08:59 PM Yessirree, every note, every drawbar position, with and without Leslie on slow and high. Quarter notes, half notes and hole. PM me to place an order. Post by: henchman on January 02, 2006, 07:10:25 PM
I think proclaiming that music isn't art is a bigger insult. Now wether I agree with the statement Bob made or not, belittleing someones calling in life, is a huge insult. I am insulted when I see musicians talking about engineers/mixers referring to them as simple knob twiddlers. And allthough some people do only that, there are people who can have a huge impact on amix by applying their "Art" to it. And , music IS free. I can turn on the radio and enjoy music for FREE all day long if I want. BTW, PT's still sucks DonkeyBalls. (I had to get that one in. ) Post by: peyemp on January 02, 2006, 07:14:29 PM
Praise be to the Lord Kenny G. "I do find the time to come over to your dirt pile" "Don't FUCK with me dickwad" "your records suck ass" "Semi Pro" "you're one of those non-confrontational pussies" "a pompous little cretin like yourself" "And of course. I do get to wake up and be Kenny Gioia tomorrow. I'm sorry that you're not soo lucky." "that pittance you so gladly receive" "I can count the amount of important records you've made on one finger" then you blessed us unworthy sinners with; "Your music is free because it is worthless. Some of us were blessed with talent." You're right, Lord Kenny... you do not come off as holier than thou, oh Lord who reigneth forever... As to the "bow before Bob O. or die" routine, Bob's former boss was my former boss. He and I have both worked with Brian Holland, Mary Wilson, and alot of the same people in the same studio. So why should I be lumped in as an "an Albinian brown nose" just because I realize you are the Almighty Lord Kenny Gioia ? Post by: Curve Dominant on January 02, 2006, 07:14:30 PM
Kenny, It's OK for you to like Wang Chung. Nobody here is judging you for that. Clearly this thread and this forum and Mr. Albini's presence has offended your taste in music. We can all look at your discography and see that plain as day. But, it's ok. YOU'RE ok. So what if you happen to like cheesy, shallow, manufactured, Beat Detective'd, Autotuned crap. Nobody here is JUDGING you for that, Kenny. So please chill, before I whip out my spatula and smack you in the brain. PS: When is the Bad Mood Mike CD ever going to come out?? Post by: peyemp on January 02, 2006, 07:25:21 PM
According to Chapter 19, verse 4 in your bible, "and thou day-rate semi-pros shall atone thy sins and worthless music for a period of 7 days and 7 nights". So you mean sooner than that ? Post by: dwoz on January 02, 2006, 07:43:54 PM
Just for perspective, since I'm on a "grammar kick" in this thread...a wether is actually a castrated goat. perhaps that makes as much sense as what you intended to post! hope this helps. dwoz Post by: henchman on January 02, 2006, 07:46:48 PM
I think, giving where this thread has gone, wether is quite appropriate. Post by: maxim on January 02, 2006, 07:55:19 PM please, take your clever insults back to the marsh pit, where you kindy pals can all have a good snigger somehow, i doubt bob o would enjoy having you as a 'buffer' or a bodyguard, and if i were him, your psychofancy (coupled with your homophobic/homosexual obsession) would make me nervous Post by: man-O-Love on January 02, 2006, 07:58:38 PM
As a gay horse, I find your remarks deeply offensive.... But also strangely titilating. Post by: Curve Dominant on January 02, 2006, 07:59:06 PM Post by: man-O-Love on January 02, 2006, 07:59:51 PM
You watch your tongue! Post by: pounce on January 02, 2006, 08:01:13 PM Post by: Kenny Gioia on January 02, 2006, 08:06:41 PM
5th grade? Come on Ronnie. Those are at least Junior High insults. I'm saving my high school ones for the big attack. So what.
Yes he did. It was absolutely a slap in the face. It's not even arguable. It's Bob's Mantra for his forum. I would equate it to me saying "Hey Steve. Music needs to sound like a beer commercial."
OK. So I guess in the spirit of this most holy forum and it's Albinian logic, I must now call you a DICK. You're a DICK. Or should I say "your" a dick. I don't want to be breaking any Albinian laws or anything.
BS? BS? BS? Those 'em fighting words!!!!!! Post by: Aardvark on January 02, 2006, 08:07:29 PM
Kenny is not the Lord but like the Lord he works in mysterious ways. As p(r)oof I offer a thread in which Mr. Albini has a grammar discussion with dwoz and conducts himself in a manner that indicates a keen knowledge of the related rules. (I envy him this in no small way) In the same thread dwoz, a reasonably well spoken chap for an American, responds in kind only to be critiqued by none other than Robocop, AKA Ron Steel. At this point I wondered when the the threshold of surrealism was crossed and how I managed to miss it. A piss up between Internet mods in a music forum is to be expected now and then and unto itself no distinct moment. To see a situation where one of the least skilled writers in our midst offers a literary lesson to a clever wordsmith is either a sign of the Apocalypse or clear indication this entire thread was a brilliant put on betwixt the main protagonists. In that I do not see the end of times on the horizon I am left to conclude the latter. Cheers, Aardvark P.S. On a completely different note...If I am deep-frying potato chips do I need to put them into some boiling oil after after they come out of the deep-fryer to cook them? Hehehehe Post by: Kenny Gioia on January 02, 2006, 08:14:04 PM
Would that be the pretty pink silicon spatula that comes with the breast awareness Kitchen Aid mixer. Ahh. See. Maybe you can mix after all.
I believe that that project has long since died. However he's done a few new songs which are really good. Check them out here. http://www.myspace.com/richcronin Post by: Kam Fong as Chin Ho on January 02, 2006, 08:16:56 PM
You crazy horse! Half the animal control officers in West Hollywood are looking for you. I'll put a bur in your saddle! Talk about ridden and put away wet, if you think your 'stable studio' with an MBOX is any comparison to albini's TDM rig, you are sadly mistaken. He has forgotten more about ITB mixing than you ever knew! Anyway, back to my gioia drum CD. I'm just gonna listen to it all at once and then concentrate on the individual songs. Its really relaxing with a crunchy groove! Post by: Kam Fong as Chin Ho on January 02, 2006, 08:21:18 PM
Is that a camera trick, or does that guy make mick jagger's quads look muscular? Post by: Curve Dominant on January 02, 2006, 08:25:21 PM
Since you posess little competence with recording equipment, I would suggest you stay away from the cooking equipment altogether. You will hurt yourself. PS to Kenny: When is the Amanda Latona CD ever coming out? Post by: Kenny Gioia on January 02, 2006, 08:24:23 PM
It seems that I have already made you a bit jittery. Like a schoolgirl even? Post by: Aardvark on January 02, 2006, 09:23:21 PM
A little touchy there line cook boy? You didn't answer my question BTW. Maybe there would be a special flavour if I did it that way right? I really meant that as a real question about deep-frying techniques...this is your area of expertise correct? Please advise me as nobody else here besides you is, to my knowledge, is a line cook...NTTAWWT. Hehehehehe Cheers, Aardvark P.S. If you are going to stay in the cooking business it would behoove you to get your papers. You're not going anywhere else anytime soon so... Post by: bbkong on January 02, 2006, 09:56:32 PM Could you possibly tell where I can find a reliable source for cases of chicken fried steaks? I've been patient with Farmer John out here, but their reefer truckers just don't keep anything frozen anymore. Oh and WangChung and those other goobers aren't a puddle of spit in the river of 20th Century music. Everything they did can be traced back to a Beatles song. Post by: minister on January 02, 2006, 10:03:33 PM Post by: minister on January 02, 2006, 10:07:08 PM Post by: minister on January 02, 2006, 10:08:35 PM it was just before "HERE COME THE WARM JETS" Post by: dwoz on January 02, 2006, 10:11:26 PM I'm totally confused. Are you talking about "british" chips or "american" chips? Someone give Oram a call!!!!! dwoz Post by: minister on January 02, 2006, 10:11:27 PM Post by: maxim on January 02, 2006, 10:14:45 PM "Psychofancy?" sic alas Post by: minister on January 02, 2006, 10:15:39 PM Post by: minister on January 02, 2006, 10:20:50 PM Post by: Curve Dominant on January 02, 2006, 10:21:37 PM
Yes, a sauci Post by: minister on January 02, 2006, 10:22:16 PM Post by: henchman on January 02, 2006, 10:26:34 PM
You don't want to know what I produced this morning. Post by: minister on January 02, 2006, 10:35:00 PM Post by: Ron Steele on January 02, 2006, 10:35:25 PM
Aardvark, your feelings of puzzlement and doubt left on the doorstep of your subconscious, and how it relates to Kenny as the subject matter, could be the workings that lies in your smeary hands. That fantastic imagery alone could have lead you to believe the up and down juxtaposition you are so preoccupied with attemps to express the demonstrable urgency your so lost in. I hope that helps. Post by: Charles Dye on January 02, 2006, 10:47:31 PM
Dude, you've got the original Melody House release of Carpet Square?!?! Do you know what that thing is worth? Post by: minister on January 02, 2006, 10:51:00 PM
Post by: Aardvark on January 02, 2006, 10:55:59 PM
No, but it does serve to illustrate rather nicely my point about your clumsy writing skills! Cheers, Aardvark P.S. Watch your use of "your"...the grammar Police are out tonight....Just ask Kenny!!! Hehehehehe Post by: Ron Steele on January 02, 2006, 11:05:41 PM
Alright then aardvark, I will simplify things for you. Maybe you were to busy to notice much of anything whilst jerking off to the photo of the little drummer boy. Post by: minister on January 02, 2006, 11:13:20 PM
Post by: Aardvark on January 02, 2006, 11:18:16 PM
There is nothing like an elegant phrase in the hands of a master wordsmith such as yourself. I do enjoy seeing the leopard's spots in it's natural habitat, even if it is merely having a bowel movement. Cheers, Aardvark Post by: maxim on January 02, 2006, 11:23:14 PM "A piss up between Internet mods in a music forum" don't the marsh creatures like to feel important? "...If I am deep-frying potato chips do I need to put them into some boiling oil after after they come out of the deep-fryer to cook them?" i would seriously check with your mum first unlike music production, when cooking, someone can really get hurt Post by: minister on January 02, 2006, 11:24:25 PM Post by: maxim on January 02, 2006, 11:26:49 PM Post by: peyemp on January 02, 2006, 11:27:32 PM
Oh contraire ! I've been deeply hurt and offended by alot of music I've heard through the years. Crushed, you may say. I'm still in a great deal of pain-- whatever you do, please don't mention "Elvira" by the Statler Bros.. Post by: minister on January 02, 2006, 11:27:36 PM
Post by: minister on January 02, 2006, 11:32:25 PM
ohh...how sweet! i feel like we're just like family! Post by: Kam Fong as Chin Ho on January 02, 2006, 11:35:35 PM
This is a good one. I recall seeing it in the album cover thread in the marsh a couple of months ago. Post by: Aardvark on January 02, 2006, 11:35:40 PM
May I safely presume your are a graduate of the Robocop school of clever, witty and original commentary? Cheers, Aardvark Post by: electrical on January 03, 2006, 12:04:50 AM The Minutemen were more important than Wang Chung, according to the readers of this forum. That settles it. |