myNameIsGeorge wrote on Tue, 11 April 2006 13:00 |
well for me the fact, that the US has nuclearweapons is much more disturbing and on witch planet does CNN live? for the moment I have more fear, that Behringer will take over the world and everyone MUST have at least one Behringer Unit in the active signal path.. thats more scary.. isnt it? |
Die BREMSSPUR wrote on Tue, 11 April 2006 14:59 | ||
Hey Brough, Nukes..Iran...Behringer... Actually there is a correlation. Since the smackdown on using German and other Euridiot scientists was enforced by the fukked up gringos, they had to resort to using Pakistanis and Russians...hey those guys are no slouches...but...who the fukk is responsible for oversight?!?!?! So... Lavry>Pendulum>Behringer>Lavry... or two scenarios.... 1. The Texas hat rack blows it and like all his other stutters, fore goes imagination and attacks Bangladesh with ground troops. This time the great grandsons of Stalingrad vets go with us.... 2. The Texas hat rack blows it and like all his other stutters, doesn't get world backing because we are in the same game, queer intelligence and a madman who is either bluffing or not. Iran shoots their nuke....no quality plan like the Swiss...fukken miss Israel and hit Greece.....BOOOM!!!! No more shitty cheese or Ouzo...fallout goes everywhere and people in Europe become emaciated, turn pale and start wearing stupid looking glasses. Hatred builds across the region until someone blames the Jews for the whole mess. Everyone stands around with their thumb in their ass waiting for the Texas hat rack to do something. Well......we're waiting. The hat rack continues reading to children for three minutes and forty seconds after the gyros are super well done...He is attacked by NYC lesbians for not acting presidential. He then relocates to a command post under granite and steel and orders a shrimp cocktail after a workout on the treadmill and mulls his options. Condi buys a Persian rug at Macys. Deep inside his command post the President of the United States of America makes his decision. Five days later he appears on T.V. and we declare war on Japan to restore democracy. The director of the CIA is severely reprimanded after it becomes apparant that Japan has already been invaded and forced to be a democracy and had no Behringer equipment in the country. Rumsfeld appears and states they must have moved it all to China. Noone cares that it's a German company started by the CIA. Flatulence becomes the latest musical movement butt is heavily compressed. A turtle nibbles on lettuce and then writes a haiku. Japanese toughs choose hood-like apparel and start saying, "yo, mufa fukkfah" Lemme nough |
PookyNMR wrote on Tue, 11 April 2006 22:33 |
And now the US has approved the usage of air-to-ground nuclear weapons against Iran. Many senior members of the military threaten to resign over the decision. This folks, could get ugly. |
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bblackwood wrote on Wed, 12 April 2006 00:08 |
This folks, could get ugly. And fast. I'm not one to get into political discussions online, but this looks like it could spin out of control very quickly... |
PookyNMR wrote on Wed, 12 April 2006 11:59 |
I disagree. The Saudi's are far more dangerous than Iranians. Look at their political and religious landscape. Look at where the money comes from for a lot of the mis-deeds in the middle east (hint: it's Saudi Arabia) Look at where the Bush family has their deepest connections. It's one screwy tangled spider web of a mess with a little nuclear power added for seasoning. |
Barry Hufker wrote on Wed, 12 April 2006 11:22 |
I would disagree even further. China is the greatest threat. We don't make hardly anything any more -- China makes it for us. Our trade deficit with them is huge. If they refuse to sell to us we would take such a huge economic nose dive. They are getting more entrepreneurial all the time -- actually inventing instead of making. Their a building up their army. They have hundreds of missles aimed at Taiwan (other other manufacturing buddy). How many billion is the population of China? If they march, who's going to stop them? Oil at $6.00 a gallon. It really should be that price already. Europeans and Asians pay much more per liter. We've just gotten off easy. And I say that as a guy whose car gets 12mph (on the highway!). Barry |
Barry Hufker wrote on Wed, 12 April 2006 12:22 |
I would disagree even further. China is the greatest threat. We don't make hardly anything any more -- China makes it for us. Our trade deficit with them is huge. If they refuse to sell to us we would take such a huge economic nose dive. They are getting more entrepreneurial all the time -- actually inventing instead of making. Their a building up their army. They have hundreds of missles aimed at Taiwan (other other manufacturing buddy). How many billion is the population of China? If they march, who's going to stop them? Oil at $6.00 a gallon. It really should be that price already. Europeans and Asians pay much more per liter. We've just gotten off easy. And I say that as a guy whose car gets 12mph (on the highway!). Barry |
rankus wrote on Wed, 12 April 2006 18:34 |
Iran? Just another region to aim the silos at.. Good ole "Mutually Assured Destruction" should take care of the rest... It's been working for 40-50 years already. |
danickstr wrote on Wed, 12 April 2006 23:44 |
i never thought i would be so ambivalent to violence against a people, but gosh I am seriously having trouble with getting mad at my government for setting up to pulverize the insane fanatics and theri innocent relatives. guess 9/11 pissed me off quite a bit. I am really tired of fanatics. very fucking tired of them. so tired of them that i can turn my head the other way if a bunch of their neighbors get the shit blown out of them to kill them. that is not good, but it is accurate. I am not proud of this, but this is the way I feel about now. |
danickstr wrote on Thu, 13 April 2006 00:44 |
I am not proud of this, but this is the way I feel about now. |
zboy2854 wrote on Wed, 12 April 2006 16:09 | ||
Ahh, but herein lies the rub, and the difference this time around. MAD has only worked when BOTH sides cared about surviving. Now with the current virulent strain of Islamic fundamentalism, where dying is not only not feared, it is celebrated, embraced, and welcomed, the rules of the game change. All it takes is someone who adheres to this type of fundamentalism to lead his nation into Armageddon. We don't know for sure yet, but Ahmadinejad looks like he might just fit the bill... |
rankus wrote on Thu, 13 April 2006 14:20 | ||||
Zach, I agree, but offer this as a possible alternative: If there are thousands even millions willing to strap dynamite to themselves and march into our lives and kill themselves.... Where are they? For 11/9 there were only what 20 men involved? Same with all the other "terrorist attacks" ... why only one or ten suicide people. Why not a hundred, or a thousand....? It's very simple really. There just aren't that many folks actually willing to wrap themselves in dynamite and hit the button.... The fact that there aren't numerous attacks daily is proof of this... It would be insanely simple to bring the US or Canada to it's knees... just blow up a few levy's and airports at the same time... Poison some water sheds... done! The reality is that they do not have the manpower or financial resources to do it... There is a lot (aside from 11/9 etc.) of propaganda to keep our nation(s) living in fear. Threat? Yes. But not as big as they want you to believe. I am far more fearfull of say, cancer, than Islam. In fact I will predict more deaths from smoking this year than Osama... |
rankus wrote on Thu, 13 April 2006 13:20 |
I am far more fearfull of say, cancer, than Islam. In fact I will predict more deaths from smoking this year than Osama... |
zboy2854 wrote on Thu, 13 April 2006 12:24 | ||||||
True, but the problem these days is not the number of people willing to carry out these kinds of acts, it's the fact that the technologies exist (nuclear, biological, chemical) to allow just one or a few determined people to wipe out large swaths of a population without needing an army of followers. Many people think that the collapse of the Soviet Union made the world safer, but the opposite is true. . |
rankus wrote on Thu, 13 April 2006 21:11 |
Even a small army, with nukes/ chemicals strapped to busses, they could only take out a city or two at best before the entire desert over there is turned to melted glass. Bring it on baby... bring it on... |
/0 wrote on Thu, 13 April 2006 22:06 |
Islam is coming for all of us. This is Germany, 1935. M |
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This decision from Iran is the direct consequence of the incredibly stupid mess US has done in Iraq in particular and in the middle East in general. |
malice wrote on Fri, 14 April 2006 07:32 |
If you were a banana republic, I would ask my deputy to vote a "police" action to free your country and restore peace in the world, unfortunately, you are the most powerful nation in the planet so there is nothing we can do right now but to wait for you to realize. One can dream. malice |
rankus wrote on Fri, 14 April 2006 19:10 |
With all due respect Malice, there would be no France if it weren't for the United States... It may be that they (we) are war mongers, but at least they are on YOUR side. |
rankus wrote on Fri, 14 April 2006 19:53 |
OK respect is restored for Malice. Sorry I did not realize you were joking. |
malice wrote on Fri, 14 April 2006 12:41 | ||
Hey, This last comment was so much tongue in cheek that one side of my face is blue right now. I'm genuinely concerned by this article Brad posted. Lemme ask all of you : "If Bush nuke Iran right now, what would be your reaction ?" Simple question, simple problem, simple answer awaited ... malice |
Die BREMSSPUR wrote on Sat, 15 April 2006 13:59 |
BTW... Hope to meet you at the Paris AES...will you be there? lemme nough tik |
danickstr wrote on Sat, 15 April 2006 10:38 |
Terrorists like to hide behind the apron strings of their innocent masses. Ferreting them out has proved to me next to impossible. Perhaps by nuking a nation they will give up their terrorists or else they can be victims of genocide. That works for me. Wanting to kill people for their beliefs means we have to kill them first. I really don't see another alternative. Pussy talk to try to convince them otherwise will just get you ridiculed right before they put a bullet or bomb in your pacifist ass. It's clobberin time. |
John Ivan wrote on Sat, 15 April 2006 18:25 |
I'm saying that, things being what they are, we have handled that part of the world badly. Look, I clearly have no answers. But I don't understand why so many folks refuse to look at our very own actions. |
/0 wrote on Sat, 15 April 2006 17:53 | ||
Badly. Yes. With kid gloves. Time to turn, and burn. (Or at least posture them into shitting their pants) Their actions are just that; actions, not reactions. This shit is not about anything we have done, it's improper aggression, toward civilization, period. This isn't the first time the enemy has been as much within, as without. Bring it on. I'd rather deal with them yesterday, than next week. M |
/0 wrote on Sat, 15 April 2006 17:53 | ||
Badly. Yes. With kid gloves. Time to turn, and burn. (Or at least posture them into shitting their pants) Their actions are just that; actions, not reactions. This shit is not about anything we have done, it's improper aggression, toward civilization, period. This isn't the first time the enemy has been as much within, as without. Bring it on. I'd rather deal with them yesterday, than next week. M |
Die BREMSSPUR wrote on Sat, 15 April 2006 18:33 |
Er, |
/0 wrote on Sat, 15 April 2006 19:53 |
Aboub Abeiminijihad imagines he is the one that is set to cause prophecy to happen. If you are a street thug, how do you pick your victim? Do you choose a victim that carries hisself in a manner which might afford you the upper hand, or a guy that's 6'6", wearing military fatigues, with a tattoo that says, "Kill 'em All!". If we act like we won't do anything, we are the mark. You can't just wait around to call a bluff... bluff, or not. If someone claims to have dangerous shit, and a will to use it, that is enough for me. It's the only thing I trust at face value. I take threats seriously. Islam can have this World when people like me are dead, and gone. (looks like sooner than later) M |
John Ivan wrote on Sat, 15 April 2006 19:51 |
I would suggest that neither of us Know why they do what they do. I'm talking about what we as a nation do. That's a different thing. Hey, it's a fuken' mess. |
Die BREMSSPUR wrote on Sun, 16 April 2006 05:07 |
Sorry Brad, My crystal ball is on the fritz. |
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So why all the speeches and goofy antics? |
John Ivan wrote on Sun, 16 April 2006 15:17 |
It's sad, and I DO think people can be educated out of these idea's though. I hope and pray they can be. JI.......................................................... .. |
bblackwood wrote on Sun, 16 April 2006 14:11 | ||||
Hahah, of course, but you can have an opinion, no> In this day and age, everyone knows how to do it better than everyone else anyway...
Attention. This one may be different. We really don't know how primitive or advanced the Iranian nuclear program is. If I were a crazy dictator in a third world country I'd at least wait until I had a saber to rattle before I started rattling it... Either way, I'm on the fence about this situation. |
malice wrote on Mon, 17 April 2006 04:05 |
The problem is precisely about how meakened US military power is by now. Because Iran is trying to take advantage of the present situation weither they have nukes or not. But that is another thing Bush has done over the years : dividing the world, and Europe in particular for several reasons that even have nothing to do with Islamism. malice |
John Ivan wrote on Mon, 17 April 2006 17:13 |
I don't have the Answer. Sorry. |