Post by: joeaudio on December 20, 2005, 09:18:15 PM
interesting when there's no pictures of the room.
It makes me think that the place is not legit.
Or should I say not seriously pro.
As soon as I see pictures of a mixing console I say
okay not for real.
Is it me ?
Joe Yannece
Post by: jtr on December 20, 2005, 09:42:55 PM
| joeaudio wrote on Wed, 21 December 2005 02:18 |
When I go to a mastering house web site I find it interesting when there's no pictures of the room. It makes me think that the place is not legit. Or should I say not seriously pro. As soon as I see pictures of a mixing console I say okay not for real. Is it me ? Joe Yannece |
I don't even have a web site. Guess that makes me less than not legit
IF I had a web site with pictures, it would reveal my mattress bass trap, bookshelf diffuser, file cabinet monitor stands and foosball table in the corner. At least I don't have a mixing console.....
On the other hand, my old Augsperger room at Sony ( here in Eugene) looked great- but they wouldn't put marketing photos on the web. They also didn't list in the local yellow pages or phone book either. Good thing they closed the place as I was building a client roster. Too much hassle.
Levity aside, if you are shopping for mastering and see a mix console it does make you wonder if it's one of those studios where they do "mastering" as well.
Post by: MASSIVE Mastering on December 20, 2005, 10:40:57 PM
Not that I'm not a big fan of photos...
Post by: Viitalahde on December 21, 2005, 01:00:06 AM
My first room, to build client base and see how things go.
Post by: OldSonic on December 21, 2005, 03:33:58 AM
I have no picture on my web site. And I don't know why
Post by: ammitsboel on December 21, 2005, 05:21:14 AM
Post by: Viitalahde on December 21, 2005, 10:45:02 AM
| ammitsboel wrote on Wed, 21 December 2005 10:21 |
I like that cat on top of your monitor. |
Tnx,
was a gift from my better half - an instant studio mascot!
Post by: Ed Littman on December 21, 2005, 10:57:45 AM
Ed
Post by: Swane on December 21, 2005, 11:22:26 AM
Here is my room (Chartmakers, Helsinki, Finland)
Post by: Viitalahde on December 21, 2005, 11:51:42 AM
That room is beautiful.
Post by: lsimy on December 21, 2005, 12:13:29 PM
-Vinnie
Post by: jlapointe on December 21, 2005, 12:50:54 PM
Post by: Swane on December 21, 2005, 02:03:53 PM
Post by: Bob Boyd on December 21, 2005, 02:31:53 PM
| Swane wrote on Wed, 21 December 2005 10:22 |
Hi! Here is my room (Chartmakers, Helsinki, Finland) |
Very nice. How are those Savoys treating you? I have the Andra II's and am quite fond of them. I would love to hear those.
Nice looking room too!
Post by: davidc on December 21, 2005, 02:41:51 PM
Dave
Post by: Swane on December 21, 2005, 03:05:48 PM
I really love the Savoys. Since I began using them i can hear stuff i never heard before and the Low End is just right . You proberly have the same experience with the Andras.
Cheers
Svante
Post by: bobkatz on December 21, 2005, 03:34:51 PM
GET RID OF THAT ACOUSTIC NIGHTMARE you call a "desk" that's between your monitors and you.
BK
Post by: MASSIVE Mastering on December 21, 2005, 04:28:02 PM
New room in the works...
Post by: davidc on December 21, 2005, 04:31:45 PM
| bobkatz wrote on Wed, 21 December 2005 20:34 |
The first piece of advice I can give based on some of the pictures I've seen here is: GET RID OF THAT ACOUSTIC NIGHTMARE you call a "desk" that's between your monitors and you. BK |
I wonder what percentage of top Mastering rooms have no desk between the engineer and the monitors. From what I have seen, most rooms do.
In my case, the desk is more like a table, and to my ears is relatively benign in it's effect (or maybe it's just that I am used to it
)Dave
Post by: TotalSonic on December 21, 2005, 06:15:02 PM
| davidc wrote on Wed, 21 December 2005 21:31 | ||
I wonder what percentage of top Mastering rooms have no desk between the engineer and the monitors. From what I have seen, most rooms do. In my case, the desk is more like a table, and to my ears is relatively benign in it's effect (or maybe it's just that I am used to it )Dave |
Who has desks? Sony, Trutone, Sterling, Masterdisk, etc. I'd say about 95% of the mastering studios out there.
Who doesn't? BK, Doug Sax. I kind of liked Ed Littman's setup a lot as he just has a pared down analog process rack in front of him with everything else to the side.
My own opinion is that if the ergonomics of a desk allows you to be a lot more comfortable over long sessions then it might be of more of an added benefit to your work than the detriment that the added reflections are giving you. Thus even though the sound isn't as good in the room without the desk - your ability to work well over the long term might allow you to create better masters than without it. of course OMMV.
Best regards,
Steve Berson
Post by: Ed Littman on December 21, 2005, 06:32:37 PM
| TotalSonic wrote on Wed, 21 December 2005 18:15 |
[ Who doesn't? BK, Doug Sax. I kind of liked Ed Littman's setup a lot as he just has a pared down analog process rack in front of him with everything else to the side. |
well thats about to change...as soon as the fedex guy gets here.
i like simple too, but it's abit sloppy the way it is now. so i'm getting the sterling master plan A desk. about twice the width of my roll around rack with no need for the side cars
| Quote: |
My own opinion is that if the ergonomics of a desk allows you to be a lot more comfortable over long sessions then it might be of more of an added benefit to your work than the detriment that the added reflections are giving you. Thus even though the sound isn't as good in the room without the desk - your ability to work well over the long term might allow you to create better masters than without it. of course OMMV. Best regards, Steve Berson |
Bk hangs on his couch. I would guess that would be hard to beat for comfort....
Ed
Post by: Adam Dempsey on December 21, 2005, 07:01:44 PM
This pic, from our days of Sonic classic. We still have the 1630 (mod'd convertors) but not in the rack. I removed the nearfields, they're now just kept in case of request. Twin subs in the walls below the custom 900s speakers, biamped bridged system, 550W RMS/channel.
To all - great pics & all the best for Xmas & the new year.
Post by: mastermind on December 22, 2005, 01:24:08 AM
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Post by: Viitalahde on December 22, 2005, 01:38:56 AM
| bobkatz wrote on Wed, 21 December 2005 20:34 |
GET RID OF THAT ACOUSTIC NIGHTMARE |
I know the desk can cause comb filtering (depends on the angle, height and all of course) but I'm not still sure if it's that big a deal when installed properly.
A whole different deal is that I personally HATE having the screen at the centre of the stereo image. If it's on, it's an attention-catcher, if it's off, it's still there.
If/when I get around building a new room, I'm pretty sure I'll still have the screen way outside the sweet spot. For critical listening, you roll to the sweet spot and do your thing, when moving sound blocks around you sit at a different place.For the desk, I'm not sure if it'll be a desk but an wildly angled rack or something.
I need an LCD screen.
Post by: davidc on December 22, 2005, 04:29:56 AM
| Viitalahde wrote on Thu, 22 December 2005 06:38 | ||
I know the desk can cause comb filtering (depends on the angle, height and all of course) but I'm not still sure if it's that big a deal when installed properly. A whole different deal is that I personally HATE having the screen at the centre of the stereo image. If it's on, it's an attention-catcher, if it's off, it's still there. If/when I get around building a new room, I'm pretty sure I'll still have the screen way outside the sweet spot. For critical listening, you roll to the sweet spot and do your thing, when moving sound blocks around you sit at a different place.For the desk, I'm not sure if it'll be a desk but an wildly angled rack or something. I need an LCD screen. |
I use the smallest screen I can get away with: a 17" LCD. I tried taking the screen away from the centre, but everything actually sounded worse (I am probably just used to the reflections).
Dave
Post by: dcollins on December 22, 2005, 05:00:39 PM
| TotalSonic wrote on Wed, 21 December 2005 15:15 |
Who has desks? Sony, Trutone, Sterling, Masterdisk, etc. I'd say about 95% of the mastering studios out there. |
Oh it's more like 99%
| Quote: |
Who doesn't? BK, Doug Sax. I kind of liked Ed Littman's setup a lot as he just has a pared down analog process rack in front of him with everything else to the side. |
That's only in Doug's surround room. The consoles at TML are large metal things that are at "stand-up" height.
| Quote: |
Thus even though the sound isn't as good in the room without the desk - your ability to work well over the long term might allow you to create better masters than without it. of course OMMV. |
If all you run is plugs, you can have a small desk. If your world is primarily analog, you have to be able to reach out and touch the gear.........
DC
Post by: bobkatz on December 22, 2005, 07:34:51 PM
| dcollins wrote on Thu, 22 December 2005 17:00 |
If all you run is plugs, you can have a small desk. If your world is primarily analog, you have to be able to reach out and touch the gear......... DC |
I have a specially-constructed angled wooden rack with 6 choice pieces in it... in front of the listening couch. Sitting on the arm of the couch is the TC 6000 Icon controller and a MIDI controller so I can remotely control other pieces that are in the rack behind me. A wireless keyboard/mouse that can sit in my lap completes the complement, and a flip-up LCD monitor (that is also acoustically invisible to the listening position) is attached to the top of the rack. You can put it in or take it out and the MLSSA measurements are virtually identical. It is so low physically and the back is so diffusive that the first reflection from the tweeters is extremely weak to begin with and if it could be found it would be about 14 feet up in the air where the height of the cathedral ceiling is at that point. The second reflection, if we could calculated it, would be insignificant, and would land behind my head somewhere....
I'll take a picture of the latest incarnation of the room for you as soon as I get a chance. But based on the angles and heights of the photos of the desks that you've posted, they are far from acoustically insignificant. I can easily hear the comb filtering of most rooms I've encountered with desks. The best test you can make for that is to run a MLSSA or similar frequency response measurement, then cover your desk with 3" soft sonex and compare the measurements.
Yes, it is a dilemma, but I feel that a mastering room should sound better than the best living room you've ever been in. I have a reflection free zone in my room past the first 20 ms.
BK
Post by: davidc on December 22, 2005, 08:22:06 PM
| bobkatz wrote on Fri, 23 December 2005 00:34 |
I can easily hear the comb filtering of most rooms I've encountered with desks. |
Maybe you can, but I personally don't feel that the problem from the desk is a major issue. I feel that there are much bigger issues than this. I usually listen at the desk (which is about 15' from the monitors. I also listen from the couch at the back of the room (22' from the monitors). The two positions give slightly different perspectives, but you can easily hear the important issues in either position.
| Quote: |
Yes, it is a dilemma, but I feel that a mastering room should sound better than the best living room you've ever been in. |
Well I am very confident that I have that covered. Most living rooms have lots of reflective furniture in them, untreated wall reflections, and room nodes. Also the quality of my monitoring chain is way beyond what most people I know of have at home.
Dave
Post by: lagerfeldt on December 22, 2005, 08:56:41 PM
| Viitalahde wrote on Wed, 21 December 2005 07:00 |
OK, I start.. My first room, to build client base and see how things go. |
Looks nice. What's that light blue machine just above center of the rack?
Post by: Viitalahde on December 23, 2005, 04:26:15 AM
| lagerfeldt wrote on Fri, 23 December 2005 01:56 |
Looks nice. What's that light blue machine just above center of the rack? |
That's a Gyraf G10. Prototype.
Post by: lagerfeldt on December 23, 2005, 05:10:56 AM
| Viitalahde wrote on Fri, 23 December 2005 10:26 | ||
That's a Gyraf G10. Prototype. |
Right, that's what I thought. How did you get that? Did you build it your self?? I love my G10! Have you tried gaining the input all the way up?
Post by: Viitalahde on December 23, 2005, 05:40:25 AM
| lagerfeldt wrote on Fri, 23 December 2005 10:10 |
How did you get that? Did you build it your self?? |
Well, I was changing some e-mails years back with Jakob Erland, and that ended up in me becoming a sort of a test-driver. I got the documentation, built it and reported back. That was a great thing (and a lot of trust!) from him. It's built in a chassis of an old Rhode & Schwarz tube RF amplifier.
| Quote: |
Have you tried gaining the input all the way up? |
Yep - a very good sound. I like how it has a wide range at the input: it doesn't need to be gained all the way up at the input to get a good sound but the sound also doesn't break up when you crank it. A nice variety of tones can be had by varying the I/O controls.
Post by: lagerfeldt on December 23, 2005, 06:49:26 AM
When you gain the input above unity it slowly increases the stereo perception and the harmonics increase so nice, opening and fattening the sound at the same time.
Just for fun have you tried looking at a single tone in a frequency analyzer, and then gain the input stage up all the way, and set output just below 12 o clock (to preserve same overall level). Then watch the upper harmonics just skyrocket
Post by: Viitalahde on December 23, 2005, 07:29:56 AM
| lagerfeldt wrote on Fri, 23 December 2005 11:49 |
have you tried looking at a single tone in a frequency analyzer |
I've done a lot of it while calibrating & analyzing this thing.
Actually, I have labeled the I/O controls of the unit in a way where the "0" positions is at unity gain and produces the least distortion with the DAW output level (-8dBFs) I use. From there I tweak the I/O to taste.
Post by: lagerfeldt on December 23, 2005, 07:30:53 AM
Did the same thing of course
Post by: jfrigo on December 24, 2005, 02:21:30 AM
I understand what you mean, Joe. I can't help sometimes wondering if there's something they don't want us to see when pictures are omitted, though it doesn't necessarily mean anything. But why leave people wondering? A picture does impart information, or at least can give an initial favorable impression and encourage a potential client to further investigate your site. If you're proud of it, show it off.
As for consoles...
I'm not ready to lose consoles yet. Everything has a sonic footprint from a little 6 space rack and a couch, to a desk, to a tape machine. Make the footprint as small as possible, but don't unnecessarily strain the ergonomics of the room. I'm sure BK and Doug (and formerly Denny) are comfortably adapted to the ergonomics or they wouldn't have done it, but they are the exception (so far). 99% of the rooms seem to be getting work done OK with consoles, and I've even heard a couple albums that I like that must have survived the disaster
I'm not insensitive to the issue, however, and do get concerned when I see a monstrous thing with lots of hard, flat surfaces and angles (or lack thereof) that encourage the worst problem reflections. However, a small, well-thought-out console is still more help than harm I think.
As for my pics...
The old L.A. studio photo is on my website which is woefully out of date. That room now belongs to somebody else 'round here. Even my original Atlanta room pic is still on the site below the L.A. pic for the curious. The brand new room has no pics taken yet, though that should happen sometime in January. I posted a couple teaser shots on this forum a month or two ago as the room construction was nearing completion. Here's one of those:
Post by: Bob Olhsson on December 24, 2005, 12:14:03 PM
I've been doing attended sessions here at Georgetown Masters. The console is located behind you with an additional pair of DynAudio speakers that you can use for editing. There is a remote on the Crookwood/SPL router that you can use right from the easy chair to compare different gear or different patches, eq. before or after compression, etc.
The main monitor speakers are by Nova who also made the 5 smaller speakers that are used in the surround room. Those huge power amps are Pass Labs X-1000s.
Moving from the Duntech Sovereigns in my workroom to the Novas turned out to be much easier than I expected. I hear a bit more low-end detail on the Sovereigns but my masters have translated very well between the two systems and to the real world.
Post by: Lee Flier on December 24, 2005, 06:50:04 PM
Post by: Ged Leitch on December 24, 2005, 09:21:05 PM
| Bob Olhsson wrote on Sat, 24 December 2005 17:14 |
I've been doing attended sessions here at Georgetown Masters. The console is located behind you with an additional pair of DynAudio speakers that you can use for editing. There is a remote on the Crookwood/SPL router that you can use right from the easy chair to compare different gear or different patches, eq. before or after compression, etc. The main monitor speakers are by Nova who also made the 5 smaller speakers that are used in the surround room. Those huge power amps are Pass Labs X-1000s. Moving from the Duntech Sovereigns in my workroom to the Novas turned out to be much easier than I expected. I hear a bit more low-end detail on the Sovereigns but my masters have translated very well between the two systems and to the real world. |
Wow Bob, what type of monitors are those shown (the huge ones)
what a lovely looking room!
Post by: Jerry Tubb on December 24, 2005, 11:54:35 PM
Isn't that the late great Denny Purcell's room ?
Post by: jfrigo on December 25, 2005, 02:09:01 AM
| Gerald Leitch wrote on Sat, 24 December 2005 18:21 |
Wow Bob, what type of monitors are those shown (the huge ones) what a lovely looking room! |
Bob's post says the speakers are by "Nova." Can you tell more about them Bob? Looks like they left the room pretty close to how Denny had it. Were these monitors brought in by him, or since?
Post by: Bob Olhsson on December 25, 2005, 02:14:48 AM
Again those 600 pound monitor speakers are Novas, a company in Houston. Denny had switched to them from Duntech Sovereigns when they expanded to accommodate surround. The idea was for both rooms to have the same flavor of speakers and additional Duntechs aren't easily available any more.
Post by: Ed Littman on December 25, 2005, 11:50:52 AM
| Bob Olhsson wrote on Sat, 24 December 2005 12:14 |
The console is located behind you with an additional pair of DynAudio speakers that you can use for editing. |
Bob It looks like your desk is not only behind the client couch but facing the back of the room.
whats with that?
Ed
Post by: TotalSonic on December 25, 2005, 12:55:51 PM
| Ed Littman wrote on Sun, 25 December 2005 16:50 |
Bob It looks like your desk is not only behind the client couch but facing the back of the room. whats with that? Ed |
According to Bob's post you're doing editing or tweaking settings facing a nearfield system but with your back to the mains. Not something that would be easy for me to get used to but guess everyone likes to work a little differently -
Best regards,
Steve Berson
Post by: Bob Olhsson on December 25, 2005, 04:04:46 PM
Post by: Jørn Bonne on December 26, 2005, 10:45:14 AM
It would be nice to see a picture of your home workroom, if possible, how you've placed your meters and monitor screen.
Kind regards
J
Post by: Bob Olhsson on December 26, 2005, 10:50:39 AM
Post by: joeaudio on December 26, 2005, 09:40:58 PM
Joe Yannece
Classic Sound
Post by: Ronny on December 27, 2005, 12:34:33 PM
| jfrigo wrote on Sat, 24 December 2005 02:21 |
As for pics... I understand what you mean, Joe. I can't help sometimes wondering if there's something they don't want us to see when pictures are omitted, though it doesn't necessarily mean anything. But why leave people wondering? A picture does impart information, or at least can give an initial favorable impression and encourage a potential client to further investigate your site. If you're proud of it, show it off. |
Not something that we don't want you or other colleagues to see, Jay, but why advertise your room with pics that gear rippers can see. As far as websites go in producing revenue or new clients, they don't pay the bills, it's word of mouth that gets me my business and I've gotten ripped off a time or two by burglars that see audio gear as a goldmine for their pawn shop. In my case I've been here at this location since 1977, I'm way past many repairs and I'm not the most kempt person in the world, but my clients typically hire me for my ears, not my gear, so I don't think showing gear pics to the whole world is going to do much of anything but open the eyes of some criminials. How many clients have said "I hired you because you have X device"? Not many in my case, they hire me because they know that I can improve on their product and I have plenty of good gear that I've built up over the past 35 years. When they say "do you have Pro Tools", like it's a requirement to mastering, it's quite comical. I usually say, yes, but I have better gear that I'll use on your project.
Post by: Ed Littman on December 27, 2005, 03:40:32 PM
| Ronny wrote on Tue, 27 December 2005 12:34 |
why advertise your room with pics that gear rippers can see. |
If thats a real fear,why should one list gear on their sites or have a site at all. Besides my ears I know my room is the best piece of gear that i have & I want people to see that along with rest of the list.
Ed
Post by: Barry Hufker on December 27, 2005, 07:44:25 PM
Do you have pictures of your ears on your site??
Barry
Post by: MASSIVE Mastering on December 27, 2005, 07:48:20 PM
Post by: TotalSonic on December 27, 2005, 08:12:57 PM
| MASSIVE Mastering wrote on Wed, 28 December 2005 00:48 |
Diggin' the new room, BTW, Ed... Don't know if I ever mentioned... |
& more importantly - it SOUNDS really good in there. When you close the door all you can hear is the ringing in your ears!
The updated website looks great Ed.
Best regards,
Steve Berson
Post by: Ed Littman on December 27, 2005, 09:29:56 PM
| Quote: |
Do you have pictures of your ears on your site?? Barry |
Ufortunatly yes
| TotalSonic wrote on Tue, 27 December 2005 20:12 | ||
& more importantly - it SOUNDS really good in there. When you close the door all you can hear is the ringing in your ears! The updated website looks great Ed. Best regards, Steve Berson |
Thanks guys, the new sterling desk feels great, so much more room & clean looking.
Ed
Post by: Ronny on December 27, 2005, 11:00:15 PM
| Ed Littman wrote on Tue, 27 December 2005 15:40 | ||
If thats a real fear,why should one list gear on their sites or have a site at all. Besides my ears I know my room is the best piece of gear that i have & I want people to see that along with rest of the list. Ed |
Some people don't list the gear either, I don't automatically assume that they are crap engineers or hiding anything. I understand what you are saying, but after getting ripped off 3 times, I feel the pics are like dangling a t-bone steak in front of a dog.
Speaking of dogs, I haven't had any more break-ins since I got JD my german police dog. I opted for him over the motion detectors, which don't do much for a snatch and grab burglar.
Post by: Thomas W. Bethel on December 28, 2005, 10:21:00 AM
This is one BIG reason why when someone calls me up that I do not know and starts asking for a listing of all the equipment we have I get a bit suspicious.
The most effective alarm system/burglar deterrent you can probably afford is a very big German Shepperd dog but I have also heard of would be robbers having no compunctions against killing the dog or maiming to gain access to something they really want. Even if they get caught killing an animal is not the same as killing a person but in Ohio the use of a gun in the commission of a felony adds on extra jail time but your state may vary.
No matter what alarm system you have someone will find a way around it.
FWIW
Post by: dcollins on December 28, 2005, 06:32:02 PM
| Thomas W. Bethel wrote on Wed, 28 December 2005 07:21 |
No matter what alarm system you have someone will find a way around it. |
This is why they invented "insurance."
DC
Post by: TotalSonic on December 28, 2005, 06:40:51 PM
| dcollins wrote on Wed, 28 December 2005 23:32 | ||
This is why they invented "insurance." DC |
from Thomas' original post:
It was all insured but the cost of getting some of the vintage guitar amps and vintage instruments was beyond what the insurance company was willing to pay. Also some of the microphones and outboard gear were no longer made and were to all intents and purposes lost for good.
Best regards,
Steve Berson
Post by: Ronny on December 28, 2005, 07:15:41 PM
Also gear insurances is an arm and a leg and costs more than flood insurance. They slap you with depreciation the minute you turn a knob on. I've seen some companies that charge 30% per year, so if you can go 4 years without getting completely ripped, you are ahead of the game.
Is there anyone out there that thinks that insurance companies don't charge enough?
Post by: bblackwood on December 28, 2005, 07:31:13 PM
I think if you look around you can find great insurance.
Post by: dcollins on December 28, 2005, 07:35:37 PM
| bblackwood wrote on Wed, 28 December 2005 16:31 |
My rates are very low for the studio from a company that specializes in professional studio insurance - roughly 1.5% / year (replacement value, no depreciation) and includes lost wages due to theft, injury, or even a virus taking out the DAW. I think if you look around you can find great insurance. |
Ditto here. Actually I was surprised at the price. And Lloyds of London gave the best quote!
DC
Post by: Ronny on December 28, 2005, 07:49:29 PM
| bblackwood wrote on Wed, 28 December 2005 19:31 |
My rates are very low for the studio from a company that specializes in professional studio insurance - roughly 1.5% / year (replacement value, no depreciation) and includes lost wages due to theft, injury, or even a virus taking out the DAW. I think if you look around you can find great insurance. |
Wow, I pay more for flight insurance. Can you PM me the company, Brad?
Thanks.
Post by: bblackwood on December 28, 2005, 10:21:39 PM
jmontarello@capitalbauer.com
Joe Montarello
The Recording Studio Insurance Program
Capital Bauer Agency
500 New Karner Road
PO Box 15094
Albany, NY 12212-5095
888-869-3535 (Ext. 807)
518-533-6869 (Fax)
Post by: minister on December 28, 2005, 10:57:09 PM
Post by: mcsnare on December 29, 2005, 12:37:29 AM
Dave McNair
Post by: Ronny on December 29, 2005, 04:21:00 AM
| bblackwood wrote on Wed, 28 December 2005 22:21 |
It's no secret: jmontarello@capitalbauer.com Joe Montarello The Recording Studio Insurance Program Capital Bauer Agency 500 New Karner Road PO Box 15094 Albany, NY 12212-5095 888-869-3535 (Ext. 807) 518-533-6869 (Fax) |
I've heard that name. Thanks.
Post by: minister on December 29, 2005, 01:32:36 PM
| mcsnare wrote on Wed, 28 December 2005 23:37 |
Ilok has a protection against loss/failure program. I forget how much it is. Dave McNair |
Post by: bblackwood on December 29, 2005, 02:38:16 PM
| minister wrote on Thu, 29 December 2005 12:32 | ||
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Talk to Joe, there is coverage for computer failure due to just about everything and I imagine the iLok is included in that...
Post by: tomcurlyruff on December 29, 2005, 05:42:39 PM
Another pair of thumbs up for Joe! He's been watchin' my back for years.
peace
Post by: Garrett H on January 02, 2006, 12:50:29 AM
| minister wrote on Thu, 29 December 2005 13:32 |
i am not talking about ZERO downtime. which i have. that's only good if your iLok breaks. if your computer is stolen. or your iLok is stolen, not all manufacturers will just give you a new auth. |
This point can't be made enough!
You MUST insure the software that is authorized by the iLok! If someone steals your iLok, almost NO manufacturer will help you.
As mentioned, the iLok insurance is only useful if the iLok breaks and you have it. Then, you're cool. But loose it or have it stolen and you're out of ALL of your software. Insurance companies are cool with this concept, and you need to add your plug-ins, etc. on your gear list when you submit that for underwriting.
Post by: greg charles on January 15, 2006, 12:02:20 AM
Also, there must be more to it than the photo shows. Any photos shot from that mystery curtain toward the couch?
Post by: bobkatz on January 15, 2006, 09:10:54 AM
| greg charles wrote on Sun, 15 January 2006 00:02 |
Looking at the photo of Bob Katzs room, which is posted in his book, Im just wondering what is behind that big curtain? The couch looks comfy. Im guessing its a big screen TV? Also, there must be more to it than the photo shows. Any photos shot from that mystery curtain toward the couch? |
Behind the curtain is a half-hex window alcove with three windows; total about 6 feet wide and 6 feet at its deepest. The curtain forms a very subtle absorption of the midfrequency resonance of the alcove. But the alcove helps to increase the length of the room for low frequencies, thank goodness.
I'll try to do something about the reverse direction picture!
BK