Greg Youngman wrote on Sun, 29 January 2006 01:23 |
Wow... I'm not for SURE these are digital, but I think they were. With that disclaimer, I'll list a few of my favorites. Little Feat - from "Let It Roll" on, sound damned good. Aerosmith - Some of that stuff sounds good. Toy Matinee - Ooops! That's analog! I'll try and think of some more... |
maxdimario wrote on Mon, 30 January 2006 08:06 |
for rock, I don't think it's possible to get the same live feel effect as you do on tape. I'd like to be proven wrong with an example. |
Ronny wrote on Mon, 30 January 2006 12:04 |
The best rock recorded on any workstation was "Stars And Stripes Forever", recorded and mixed in Pro Tools at 16 bit, by John Sousa in 1906. |
ALLEN WRENCH wrote on Fri, 27 January 2006 20:22 |
The argument of ?What?s better, Analog or workstation?? seems to be endless and I really never care if I see another thread on this topic. But in this particular thread, lets just say that, theoretically, digital HAS won out and is the superior format. Now in the category of ROCK? what?s the best single song, songs OR record you?ve ever heard that?s been recorded on ANY type of workstation. I?m interested in distorted ROCK guitars and acoustic ROCK drums. THIS IS NOT A TRICK. I?m NOT going to come back and say? ?SEE! It?s NOT as good as... [SOME SONG] from [SOME YEAR]!" I simply would like to know what is possible to achieve on a DAW by the BEST of the BEST. I?m just doing some listening research for my own purposes and would like to know what all you engineers and producers with the advanced EARS think the best digital rock is. Any and all input is greatly appreciated? and if you HAVE to deviate from the rock category, that?s OK. Please name the song, artist and record. I?m planning on buying them to listen to for a while. - ALLEN WRENCH - |
minister wrote on Mon, 30 January 2006 17:58 |
wasn't that a shave and a hair cut, 2 bit recording? |
ALLEN WRENCH wrote on Tue, 31 January 2006 22:47 |
OK, this is exactly what I DID NOT want to happen with this thread. I don’t care if it’s all IN-THE-BOX, with an SSL, 16 bit PT, 64bit Cakewalk, ADAT’s and Mackies, Logic and a HUI, what ever. <snip> ANY DAW used in ANY way… EXCEPT tracking on tape and then digitizing. I’m looking to put together some songs to hear what’s POSSIBLE to do with the digital format. <snip> Stop your talkin, start your rockin. - Allen Wrench - international Superstar |
ALLEN WRENCH wrote on Fri, 27 January 2006 20:22 |
The argument of “What’s better, Analog or workstation?” seems to be endless and I really never care if I see another thread on this topic. But in this particular thread, lets just say that, theoretically, digital HAS won out and is the superior format. Now in the category of ROCK… what’s the best single song, songs OR record you’ve ever heard that’s been recorded on ANY type of workstation. I’m interested in distorted ROCK guitars and acoustic ROCK drums. THIS IS NOT A TRICK. I’m NOT going to come back and say… “SEE! It’s NOT as good as... [SOME SONG] from [SOME YEAR]!" I simply would like to know what is possible to achieve on a DAW by the BEST of the BEST. I’m just doing some listening research for my own purposes and would like to know what all you engineers and producers with the advanced EARS think the best digital rock is. Any and all input is greatly appreciated… and if you HAVE to deviate from the rock category, that’s OK. Please name the song, artist and record. I’m planning on buying them to listen to for a while. - ALLEN WRENCH - |
ALLEN WRENCH wrote on Wed, 01 February 2006 10:58 |
My records suck, that’s why I’m here. - ALLEN |
Eric Rudd wrote on Wed, 01 February 2006 10:20 | ||
Sorry that you're getting your upset, but "DAW" pretty much is implying 'in the box' these days. (except for hybrid users) So your question above is confusing from a terminology POV. So as I understand it.... are you looking for songs that are done "in the box" with a "DAW?" Or are you looking for songs that are "digital" that can be ADAT, 3348, DAW, etc? I think you'll get many more responses if you don't limit it to DAW-only projects. Eric |
Eric Rudd wrote on Tue, 31 January 2006 11:53 | ||
My nominee for "post of the year." Eric |
Ronny wrote on Tue, 31 January 2006 11:54 |
I second that nomination. |
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Nice response maxdimario. Or was that a blatant insult of my personal tastes? Got any examples yourself? |
maxdimario wrote on Fri, 03 February 2006 10:36 | ||
...err every recording made up to the mid 80's? ...even the hardcore punk records of the early 80's recorded in one day in cheap studios sound bigger...considering the lack of musicianship, totally distorted guitars, and anti-aesthetic writing. we're looking for the best digital rock album.. |
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considering the lack of musicianship, totally distorted guitars, and anti-aesthetic writing. |
ALLEN WRENCH wrote on Wed, 01 February 2006 10:58 |
I’ve been wound a little tight for the last few days because I just got sentenced to court ordered rehab and I don’t think that’s going to be fun. . . . My records suck, that’s why I’m here. |
NoWo wrote on Fri, 03 February 2006 17:43 | ||||
The situation in Europe is completely different. Never heart of "Techno"? This music ruled Europe the last 10 years and was completely done in the box. As a result nearly all conventional studies vanished. Although I Post by: NoWo on February 04, 2006, 04:24:21 PM what is hybrid other than digital? Some analog is always included starting at the microphone and nearly always ending at the speakers. And "any" music isn Post by: minister on February 05, 2006, 12:42:25 PM
by hybrid, i meant something along the lines of tracking drums on tape, transferring to digital, tracking more & editing digital, than mixing on a desk or summing box and summing analog. use analogue eq's and comp's etc. or some combination there of... i don't mean merely analog mic & pre to get it into the DAW. i personally don't have a 2" or a desk, so most of my stuff is in the box. and, yes, i just finished a pop/rock album, ITB, and a whacky, kinda avant quasi-classical thing in the box and i am very happy with the sound. but, i have used my Dangerous 2 BUS to mix rock and other styles and i liked the results with that too. but i have a long-time engineer friend who did 2" and an anlog desk, but then was forced into DAW mixing for about 2 years (because of moving his studio and practicalities) and is now set up again with his neotek desk. and he MUCH prefers mixing (especially) rock stuff on the desk and printing it off to 1/2". and yes, his machines are aligned and his stuff sounds fantastic! Post by: NoWo on February 05, 2006, 04:16:45 PM I thought you meant that by hybrid. Of course it is another thing to mix on real desk. A while ago I send 16 DAW audio outs into my old desk and mixed a little bit...old skool, free style. AAHHH, what a feeling, 100mm fader, I had totally forgot how cool that is. And yes, if you have 64 EQs, all with real knobs, at hand you mix a lot faster and because everything is going so fast you mix with much more accuracy. All this MUST result in a better sound no matter what brand the mixer is. Unfortunately you will never get as loud and simultaneously smooth with pure analog than it is possible with digital. Although digital is said to be hard there are enough possibilities to get the sound smooth. But I see in general we are brothers in mind. Keep on rockin Dutchman. BTW I Post by: minister on February 05, 2006, 04:27:59 PM
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