compasspnt wrote on Mon, 01 June 2009 06:31 |
Very shrill top end, not sweet. |
J.J. Blair wrote on Sun, 31 May 2009 23:41 |
I had somebody bring in the 60 watt version for a record. What an absolute piece of shit that thing was. Unusable. Tubes were microphonic, the tone sucked ass. Really awful. |
JGauthier wrote on Tue, 02 June 2009 17:54 |
Im doing a record as we speak with a British gentleman whom has convinced himself that the Blues Deluxe (nod to Nick- not a new 2009- I agree to check and see before judgement if its different) and Deville are just awesome amps. He is an INCREDIBLE player and would sound good plugged to a cup through a piece of string. To save money he is tracking at home and letting me reamp while still using his original close mic. I get his tracks BEFORE telling him Im planning on reamping and do a treatment with stereo, a close and a room mic. I send him a clip. He LOVEEEEEES it. He comes to his next session and starts looking at my 8200, 1073s, and other EQs. I ask him what hes looking for and he replies, "That MIDRANGE... HOW did you get that MIDRANGE". I turned and pointed at my pair of 50s tweed Princetons. If anyone tries to claim this amp (prior to the new release) holds up, then they dont have any REAL EXPERIENCE to stand on. This site is about relativity people. If you have never played a REAL deluxe, dont defend these POS. As for the 2009. Im looking forward to playing one if they dont suck anymore! But comments that they are fine becuase youve used one for years means you cant afford a nicer amp... And dont know what you are missing. |
Nick Sevilla wrote on Tue, 02 June 2009 13:41 | ||
Did you change the tubes and try again? Did the guitar player still suck with another amplifier? |
Nick Sevilla wrote on Thu, 04 June 2009 03:00 |
Thanks for your input,JGauthier, however, my review is about the new model. so if you have any comments on the new 2009 Hot Rod Deluxe amplifier, this will be most welcome. I hope you understand. |
Nick Sevilla wrote on Wed, 03 June 2009 10:00 |
Thanks for your input,JGauthier, however, my review is about the new model. |
If anyone tries to claim this amp (prior to the new release) holds up, then they dont have any REAL EXPERIENCE to stand on. This site is about relativity people. If you have never played a REAL deluxe, dont defend these POS. As for the 2009. Im looking forward to playing one if they dont suck anymore! But comments that they are fine becuase youve used one for years means you cant afford a nicer amp... And dont know what you are missing.[/quote |
Hmmn, it seems to me that your tone is shrill and distorted. I might suggest that you afford yourself some real experience with polite discourse, rather than popping the clutch on your mouth before engaging your brain. It might also be helpful if you ascertained some facts before imputing that any opinion other than your own is not worthy of the air it wiggles. ie: Affording a different amp? Yep, if I need something I buy it. Having played a REAL deluxe? Yep, again, I owned a '65 in the 70's- though that may not be as REAL as a '56....REAL EXPERIENCE? Well, I'm guessing that I will come up short comparing my 35+ years making a living in music/recording to your peregrine view from the lofty pinnacles, so I concede that, and will humbly await the droppings of wisdom from your noble brow. Know what I'm Missing? Yep, I know I put those keys around here somewhere.... j |
marcel wrote on Thu, 04 June 2009 10:19 |
Fender's site makes no mention of any changes to this model, although it may not be current: http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0213202000 Nick, what makes you think this amp is different from previous years' offerings, other than the color? The description and photos above seem to point to exactly the same amp I have used in past... |
jetbase wrote on Wed, 03 June 2009 17:26 | ||
I'll have to check if my friend's amp (which I mentioned in my earlier post) is the same model, as I didn't actually eyeball it from where I was. It would make sense though, since I have previously not liked the sound of Hotrod Deluxes but I happened to like what I heard the other week. Do you know what's different inside? Nice if someone's finally moving forward. |
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You are more than welcome to attempt to sound like you know. Its the internet. But- I HATED that amp. I owned one for 11 years. I toured with it in the 90s until it made me want to scratch my eyes out. Then as soon as I got some money and bought a new amp for live. It then sat in a closet. You may get offended and try to over compensate with diction but you are wrong and foolish to try. Pseudo intellectual ramblings and chastizing will be ignored by those who are posting and not only haven't played the real amp in 30 years, but dont own the new one either... If you get any experience to reference, THEN try posting. Im glad you once owned an amp in the 70s. Its 2008 and that was 38 years ago my friend. |
Nick Sevilla wrote on Wed, 10 June 2009 19:49 |
Yes, that's the blue model I own. I'm going to post samples soon recorded thru commonly used mics. Right now, though I am in the delivery room for our second baby boy. As I type this, mommy is getting an epidural procedure done... Cheers |
Nick Sevilla wrote on Thu, 04 June 2009 18:26 |
I know the speaker is a different model than previous ones, as there was a black Deluxe in the store as well, and I did look inside. I'll have to check what it is when I get home. Cheers The Speaker is a Celestion Vintage 30, 12". Cheers |
Nick Sevilla wrote on Wed, 10 June 2009 05:49 |
Right now, though I am in the delivery room for our second baby boy. As I type this, mommy is getting an epidural procedure done... Cheers |
Eric H. wrote on Wed, 24 June 2009 14:36 |
I never liked the hot rod deluxe from the 90's, but have gotten nice clean sound with the Blues Deville 212. The overdrive channel is not very usable unless you put the drive in the first half and get the amp loud. It is a 25W amp i think. What do you think of this amp? Is it worth keeping? |
MagnetoSound wrote on Sat, 27 June 2009 10:06 |
Some of the most expensive amps to maintain ever made by a company that proclaims affordable quality to the masses! |
Ian Visible wrote on Mon, 22 June 2009 05:41 |
Is the Deluxe Reverb reissue any good? |
kats wrote on Sun, 28 June 2009 22:23 |
My conclusion is that the speaker is really the main culprit in many of the re-issues lacking "mojo". |
MagnetoSound wrote on Sun, 28 June 2009 16:41 |
(*Except Celestion Greenbacks - the most forgiving guitar speaker still in production, IMO - and unchanged, as far as I can tell, since they were first made.) |
iCombs wrote on Mon, 29 June 2009 22:47 |
...they definitely don't hold up well to anything bigger than 100 watts (in a 4x12)... |
rob s wrote on Sun, 19 July 2009 19:30 |
i bought a 63 vibro verb re issue sight unseen based having played a real one. what a shrill piece of shit that re issue is. even with retubing and speakering. yuch. |
Nick Sevilla wrote on Mon, 20 July 2009 16:24 |
To me personally, an amplifier is just that : it amplifies what you put in. |
Nick Sevilla wrote on Mon, 20 July 2009 16:24 | ||
Expecting something new to sound like something old, is like expecting Santa Claus to show up today. Anyways, I'm trying to ge tsome samples of the Fender Deluxe amplifier I reviewed originally here, and let others decide if they like it or not. To me personally, an amplifier is just that : it amplifies what you put in. A lot of people complain about how crappy this or that amp sounds... is it really the amp? Cheers |
rob s wrote on Sun, 19 July 2009 21:30 |
i bought a 63 vibro verb re issue sight unseen based having played a real one. what a shrill piece of shit that re issue is. even with retubing and speakering. yuch. |
Sean Eldon Qualls wrote on Mon, 20 July 2009 18:58 |
I played a new Hot Rod Deluxe in NY this weekend at an old friend's house. We could get it plenty loud and definitely weren't in a loud guitar store. I hope the "originals" fetch outrageous vintage dollars in 30 years. Quite proportionately, blue tolex is the new silverface. Only silverface amps still rock'n'roll without the icepicks. |
iCombs wrote on Tue, 28 July 2009 14:37 | ||
Please say you're kidding. Pretty please. |
Sean Eldon Qualls wrote on Tue, 28 July 2009 13:58 | ||||
Mostly kidding. Find my original post in this thread where I voice tremendous disgust for the original Hot Rod amps. |
iCombs wrote on Tue, 28 July 2009 16:38 |
I vaguely remember such a post. Really the Silverface reference scared me more. Though I suppose the odd good sounding silverface amp does actually exist. I played a Pro Reverb that was actually quite nice. But that seemed to be the exception rather than the rule with Silverface. |
seedyunderbelly.com wrote on Tue, 28 July 2009 14:03 |
I wager that the claim that new greenbacks sound like the old ones would be quickly left if there was an A/B comparison- It is wild how much worse the news ones are--- They are better than most new speakers but do not caome close to the real deal.. 1969-1971 is the Golden era for greenbacks imo |
Leslie Hammond wrote on Wed, 29 July 2009 20:04 |
I agree. I have done a careful comparison of my pre-Rola original G12M to some Celestion Greenback reissues from '01. The original sounds exactly like my favorite old records. The reissues are certainly in this direction and sound pretty good, but they just don't have the awe inspiring magical tone of the original. Has anyone tried the Weber Greenback clone? [I edited this post. I had mistakenly typed that the reissues were from '91 instead of '01.] |
Adam The Truck Driver wrote on Tue, 28 July 2009 12:51 |
I was in a GC, in OKC a few weeks ago and saw there, 2 very old looking Fender combos. I think they were both Super Reverbs. One was silver faced and the other black, and the one I could see into the back of had small blockish magnets on the back. They were asking 2K for it. The other was like 1.6K or 1.8K. I don't know if they worked or not. They were beaten up, and covered with dust and cob webs. There was an equally bad looking Princeton there beside them aswell. Can't recall it's price. I thought at the time, they've got to be kidding? Am I wrong? Sorry no pictures. My cell phone I just use for verbal communication. It has no camera. And being in a GC I wasn't expecting to see anything worth photographing. |