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R/E/P => Recording - Engineering & Production => Topic started by: StudioJiimaan on January 31, 2022, 03:47:43 PM

Title: Open Room Concept
Post by: StudioJiimaan on January 31, 2022, 03:47:43 PM
Starting of 2022 building new recording studio....here is what we are working with....concrete block construction....concrete floors....13.5 ft high ceilings....1000 sq, ft

We have decided to fully investigate doing one room without CR....the console/desk will be inside the tracking room....

PROS:
1)huge fan of Sylvia Massy/Daniel Lanois
2)easier build/less cost
3)positive vibe being in same room without glass or walls between
4)better communication
5)maximum use of space
6)right in middle and can hear what sounds like

CONS:
1)less isolation?
2)one big room so need to adjust to
3)possible issues during mixes

We have revised our studio plans....due to the construction of the building we are occupying we do not need to do a ‘box in a box’ after all (it is essentially a concrete bunker and very quiet)....we are going for one large tracking room with the console inside that large room....no control room....this is a concept that we both like....patterned after studios we both like....specifically The Bathouse (owned by the Tragically Hip) and The Woodshed (owned by Blue Rodeo))....Ken Friesen who helped build both is now onboard with our studio....

The studio is based on a one room concept made famous by people such as Daniel Lanois and Pierre Marchand. With the recording process happening in the same room as the performance, inspiration and communication are made easy.
Title: Re: Open Room Concept
Post by: RadarDoug2 on February 02, 2022, 12:27:45 AM
And makes serious monitoring incredibly difficult.
Title: Re: Open Room Concept
Post by: Jim Williams on February 02, 2022, 11:02:29 AM
Scotty Page (Pink Floyd) built a large studio on those concepts back in the early 1990's in LA by the LA river. It was called "The Arena". He had a control room but also had all the gear on rollers. The console was a large Soundcraft 3200 on a piano roller. The racks were also on roller racks. Everything could be easily rolled out of the CR and onto the large studio space. The room was about 125 x 50 feet.

He had wired the room with an array of JBL Control 5 speakers. Then sounds could be fed back and positioned in the room for ambience. Track 100 feet from the console and good isolation was still had. Down stairs he ran a T shirt printing shop. The train tracks were nearby so tracking was paused for train traffic. The studio was usually open air with the windows down.

I used his console along with Hans Zimmer's 3200 for a REP mag review.
Title: Re: Open Room Concept
Post by: Delete me on February 02, 2022, 01:27:48 PM
Scotty Page (Pink Floyd)...

Love this bit of history.
Title: Re: Open Room Concept
Post by: Blas on March 24, 2022, 03:17:28 PM
I'd reconsider the open bay set-up.  Most studio's operate with a 'Control Room', to be able to control the session.  Having isolation on both sides of the glass serves a real purpose! In fact, many.
Title: Re: Open Room Concept
Post by: JCraft on December 23, 2022, 01:12:36 AM
I started a new room a while back and had to stop because I got hurt, about to get back on it as the foundation is finished. The room interior dimensions are 18x30 with 12 foot ceilings, the low freq limit for those dimensions is approximately 30Hz. Currently running a single 15” sub on left & right channels (I make rekkerds), will make new two 15 subs to go with the B&W mains. This will be one room, no separate control & tracking room. With Pro Tools and an iPad running the Avid Control software and headphones with a mic you can get right in with the musicians and produce as you should, a little more intimate setup. Plan on making this more like a living room environment with couches and other comfortable surroundings. Nothing wrong with a one room approach.
Title: Re: Open Room Concept
Post by: wildplum on December 31, 2022, 10:50:08 AM
saw neil young's 'harvest time' last night (a film about the making of the album, shot in 1971 and never before released). the scenes of the stray gators recording in "the barn" are fan-tastic! talk about an open room studio...

highly recommended if you are in any way interested in nail young.