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Title: FYI, be careful (scam warning)
Post by: bblackwood on July 07, 2006, 10:49:34 AM
Just got this in an email from the Nashville AES chapter:
Quote:

Evidently there are folks targeting Nashville based business with web sites. I know of 2 other folks that were contacted with a similar scheme. I was contacted by email by a "potential" client and eventually sent a fraudulent check for a larger amount than requested. They wanted me to send them a refund. I called the bank in Minnesota and they had me fax the check to them and confirmed it is a fraudulent document. Evidently the new US currency is too hard to counterfeit, so they have moved to printing bogus checks that are supposed to look like "bank" checks.


Anytime anyone sends too much and asks for a refund it should set off alarms in your head...
Title: Re: FYI, be careful (scam warning)
Post by: Bob Olhsson on July 07, 2006, 11:04:19 AM
Counterfeit bank checks have been a big problem for years. I worry about them more than I do personal checks.
Title: Re: FYI, be careful (scam warning)
Post by: Ed Littman on July 07, 2006, 11:24:17 AM
The same scam is happening for music teachers with over seas inquiries. US postal mony orders are also promised. just had a a shmoe try it on me this week. I played with him a bit through a few emails, but i knew his game, so that was the end of that

Ed
Title: Re: FYI, be careful (scam warning)
Post by: UnderTow on July 07, 2006, 11:39:55 AM

These scams are all over the place. I've been selling some equipment on-line and each time I post an item on a site, I get 2 or 3 emails that are obvious scams.

The sneakiest are the ones that use fake cheques. The money actually gets onto your bank account so people think everything is fine but within a week, when the cheque gets checked, it bounces and the money is removed from your account. By then some people have allready shipped the goods ...

Alistair
Title: Re: FYI, be careful (scam warning)
Post by: -phile- on July 07, 2006, 12:10:33 PM
hi dreamer....

It happened to me, but actually Paypal facilitated the whole scam. I was paid through paypal for my old g4 loaded with flat pannel... and paypal ok'ed everything.... and a week later requested the money back, however by that time I had already moved everything out of the paypal acct and into my personal (which was changed just like all cc numbers, the moment the paypal headaches started)..... Of course since I don't have a business account with paypal they assume everything is my fault and that I should return the money without giving any sort of explanation or even telling me what steps they are taking to resolve the issue (report the theft to police, to apple so they can track the id...) .... all they said was it is confidential info so they don't have to tell me anything and just brushed me off -- talked to PD and they said I shouldn't worry and if PP has problems to bring them on Smile))) hehehehe..... Main reason I don't touch eBay and PayPal anymore, and I am sooooo happy that google is finally starting serious(at least promising it) competition.
Title: Re: FYI, be careful (scam warning)
Post by: TotalSonic on July 07, 2006, 02:04:17 PM
Also - I received a bunch of extremely well disguised emails that look like they are sent from Paypal - & tell you someone has tried to use your Paypal account and that they need you to login to your Paypal account to verify it or else they will cancel it as a security measure.   So - you click on a link that says https://www.paypal.com...etc.  and brings you to a webpage that looks exactly like Paypal's login page - except if you look at the url it is not paypal.com!!  

So - lots of people are going to efforts to try and steal your paypal account info... yet another thing to beware of.

Best regards,
Steve Berson
Title: Re: FYI, be careful (scam warning)
Post by: -phile- on July 07, 2006, 02:07:33 PM
Absolutely, my biggest problem in those scenarios is the stand that PayPal takes Sad ....

Best,

Tim
Title: Re: FYI, be careful (scam warning)
Post by: turtletone on July 07, 2006, 02:15:21 PM
there's a guy out there that made an art out of playing with these scammers. I can't remember his website, maybe do a google for nigerian scam or something like that.

anyway he doctored a western union money gram in photoshop and then tells the scammer that he sent the money and includes the photoshopped money order pic as proof. they email a couple of days later and says the money never arrived, he pretends to see what happened and then picks a town about 200 miles from where they are and tells them that something must have happened and it went to this other town. They trek the 200 miles to the town only to find out that there is no money order there. He says he must have made and mistake, it's in yet other town and emails them a confirmation (fake of coarse) from western union showing it's in this other town about 200 more miles away. It's pretty hilarious.

Title: Re: FYI, be careful (scam warning)
Post by: Taproot on July 07, 2006, 02:55:44 PM
Yeah, I had a "Nigerian Hip-Hop Artist" that wanted to work with me. He would send a money order (bogus) and I was to pay the bass player in England with the remainder. I played with him for a while and just when he was getting excited I told him to f**k off. Pretty funny. I did continue to e-mail him to ask about the status of the project. He he. MAGGOTS!!!
Title: Re: FYI, be careful (scam warning)
Post by: dcollins on July 07, 2006, 05:16:23 PM
http://www.quatloos.com/brad-c/directory01.htm
Title: Re: FYI, be careful (scam warning)
Post by: Ed Littman on July 07, 2006, 05:40:41 PM
 Laughing  Laughing  Laughing  Very Happy
Title: Re: FYI, be careful (scam warning)
Post by: Thomas W. Bethel on July 07, 2006, 10:44:11 PM
This is how my person approached me

Hello,

 compliments of the day to you, how are you and how is work, hope all is well.

my name is SHERRL SMITH, I'm from Spain, and am into music basically and for sometime now i have been working on my major project.

actually i have been thinking about carrying out the production of this album and i will like to let you know that i will be interested in carrying out this production at your studio so kindly let me know if we can release in your Studio, we will be using seven days for the recording so please let me know how much it will cost us to release in your studio. i mean record in your studio.

hope to hear and work with you soon.

Best regards
SHERRL SMITH

and ended up with this

Hi Thomas ,
    Thanks for your contacted, i have contacted my sponsor
and we have concluded on the price but there is a little
favour i want you to do for me and i need your understanding
and honesty. My sponsor said that he will send you a check of
$4500.00 , when you get the check, you will deduct the
mastering fee and send the rest of the money to me for my expencies
like flight ticket , hotel reservation , etc. Hope you understand me
and if you are ok with my arrangement with you , you can forward
your full details to me , your name , address and phone number and
i will send it to my sponsor to issue the check to you ontime for
fast transaction.
Hope to read from you.
Sherrl.


I told here we do not do business this way and it was a scam and she wrote back

Hi Thomas,
      This is not a scam nor fraud , afterall you have to wait for my sponsoor check to clear before you do anything , i have also contact my sponsoor about this and he told me that he is not willing to do it that way but due to some fact which he can not discuse with me , he have to do it that way, Thomas i want you to accept it like that and when you receive the check , you will wait for it to clear before you can move further.
   Reply ontime.
    Have a nice day.
    Sherrl.


I wrote her back and told her I was NOT INTERESTED and that we did not do business that way. I never heard from her again.

We also have recently sold some stuff on EBAY and even though we said VERY CLEARLY we would only ship to the US and to Mexico and Canada the bid was won by a gentlemen from Nigeria. I think it is a scam but we will wait to see what develops. We told him that the shipping would be very expensive but he has yet to reply.

Lots of scammers all over the web.

Also by phone.

Potential client calls up in a hurry needs 200 CDs duplicated by the next day. For the simple reason that we had never done any business with this person we said we would need $300.00 as a down payment before we could proceed and the rest due before he took the CDs. He wanted to bring over a personal check but since this was such a rush and since we did not know who we were dealing with asked him to bring us us cash, a bank check or a Postal money order which he said he could not do because by the time he called us back all the banks and post offices were closed.

We currently do not take credit cards so I suggested Pay pal which he did not want to do either. I declined the job because it had SCAM written all over it. Maybe it was not a scam but anyone who is in that big of a hurry and finds all kinds of ways of not paying us in cash or verifiable money transfers and the red flag goes up. He called me a few names on the phone and slammed the phone down when he hung up but I would rather have that happen then be out for time and MATERIALS.

I talked to a couple of other people who do CD duplication and they said they had similar calls from a person wanting extremely rushed materials.

Too bad this kind of behavior is getting more and more prevalent.



Title: Re: FYI, be careful (scam warning)
Post by: Gideon on July 08, 2006, 01:03:52 AM
http://www.419eater.com/
Title: Re: FYI, be careful (scam warning)
Post by: dcollins on July 09, 2006, 02:13:53 AM
Gideon wrote on Fri, 07 July 2006 22:03

http://www.419eater.com/



Much better link!

DC
Title: Re: FYI, be careful (scam warning)
Post by: Ronny on July 09, 2006, 12:04:32 PM


I just as soon not give scammers a reply to their messages as they then know that it's a valid e-mail address and will continue to send scam mail.

I have no problem dealing with anyone long distance and sight unseen, but no deposit, it's full payment up front. Tom if you'll adopt this policy you'll weed out all but the serious people and you'll never get screwed. Other business that offer products and services get full payment up front, mastering and duplication is no different.

Regarding Pay Pal, fraudulent electronic transfers are covered up to $100,000 by my bank, which is a Pay Pal affiliate. Pay Pal and credit card companies never ask for your account number or for you to verify it by e-mail. I talked to Pay Pal about the same scam that was mentioned earlier, they said that they don't e-mail people to verify and to always log into their website to change passwords when this happens. Last 3 credit card purchases that I did on-line, I received notice that someone had been trying to use my account from a foreign IP, the transactions were supposed to be encrytped so I don't know how they got my e-mail addy. Each time it was within 24 hours that I got the scam, so I'm pretty sure these are not mailed out randomly. If you right click on the message and view properties, message details, it will show the sender is not Pay Pal. In my case the sender was realtracs2, probably a faked return addy, but it never says Pay Pal in the "received from" message details.
Title: Re: FYI, be careful (scam warning)
Post by: Thomas W. Bethel on July 09, 2006, 09:11:02 PM
Thanks for the heads up Ronny,

We try and be very accommodating until it bites us in the butt.

There are a lot of scams going on today in the world, maybe not as many or more than our parents saw but they can be much more costly when your identity is stolen.

I was one of the veterans that was on the laptop that got stolen (why would you take something like that home?) but it is back and hopefully no one downloaded my address and social security number off the computer before they got it back.

Our bank when though a period where someone was imitating them down to the bank's logo and style sheet of their email. The email said that your bank account had been compromised and could you re enter all your personal information including your SS number, and a bunch of really personal stuff including your checking account number and savings account number. I took the email to the bank and I was the 200th person to come to them about it. They never caught the person or persons but the emails stopped.

I got a call from a person asking if I was a Sears customer and wanted me to give them my Sears account number to verify my account. When I told them to read it to me and I would tell them if it were correct - slam went the phone.

We live in scammer times and it will only get worse (IMHO)

Title: Re: FYI, be careful (scam warning)
Post by: dcollins on July 10, 2006, 12:41:49 AM
Outside of obvious scams, you guys should learn to trust your potential clients.  I do a fair amount of work from far-away lands and never ask for any payment until the project is completed....

The only guy that has stiffed me(huh-huh)lives in Los Angeles. and his name is....well, maybe next time.

It's a bit like assuming an equipment list is just a "shopping list" for potential burglars.

Imo, you can tell a guy that just wants to get his record mastered from one with impure thoughts.

DC
Title: Re: FYI, be careful (scam warning)
Post by: Taproot on July 10, 2006, 12:51:38 AM
dcollins wrote on Fri, 07 July 2006 15:16

http://www.quatloos.com/brad-c/directory01.htm


I think I......No wait, I know I woke the babies laughing at this one!
Title: Re: FYI, be careful (scam warning)
Post by: Ronny on July 10, 2006, 01:35:21 AM
dcollins wrote on Mon, 10 July 2006 00:41

Outside of obvious scams, you guys should learn to trust your potential clients.  I do a fair amount of work from far-away lands and never ask for any payment until the project is completed....

The only guy that has stiffed me(huh-huh)lives in Los Angeles. and his name is....well, maybe next time.

It's a bit like assuming an equipment list is just a "shopping list" for potential burglars.

Imo, you can tell a guy that just wants to get his record mastered from one with impure thoughts.

DC


You may be luckier than a lot of people that get screwed and you are likely dealing with more well established industry companies. Getting paid up front is without a doubt a good policy, especially when you are dealing with people in other countries where you have little or no recourse for legal action of non-payment. I look at it 180 from you, they need to trust me first. If they don't want to pay up front, that's a lack of trust on their part.  I have little problems with people balking at, at least 50% deposit, which was my minium at one time, but having payment up front not only insures that you'll not spend your time not getting paid, but insures that people that would owe you from your policy, pay in a timely manner. How many times have you had to contact people several times that didn't pay on time? You aren't getting paid for that time. Collections on late payments are a hassle and not a part of the job that I want to have to deal with, so I prefer to eliminate the "chance" of getting screwed. If I ever get someone that balks at paying up front, I'll be happy to send them to you.  
Title: Re: FYI, be careful (scam warning)
Post by: jackthebear on July 10, 2006, 03:35:31 AM
Ronny wrote on Mon, 10 July 2006 15:35

Collections on late payments are a hassle and not a part of the job that I want to have to deal with,


My policy is unless you a major or a client with whom I have had a good history, everyone pays on the day and in cash.

If you're an out of towner you deposit into my bank a/c and once the funds have cleared I play ball.

I already have an unpaid part time job for the government here a tax collector........I don't need another one as a debt collector....or standover man for that matter.

Based on converstaions I have had with some people, credit seems to be given as a sweetener to close a deal because competition is tight.

However people use an ME for his skillset. No 2 MEs are alike so if a potential client is going to base his final decision on something as trivial as credit.....then I'm better off without him because I can guarantee you he'll be a headache. No different to people who ring and immediately ask what your rates are.....trouble right there.
Title: Re: FYI, be careful (scam warning)
Post by: Thomas W. Bethel on July 10, 2006, 08:52:17 AM
You want to do the "right" thing with a client and you hope that they are not going to stiff you for your mastering fee. I have a client right now that I am chasing literally all over the US for some work we did for his band. He got the completed mastering done, he was going to pay me in cash, we had to do some additional work at the last minute and he said he did not have the additional cash to pay me for all the extra work so he would send me a check the next day. He left on tour with his band and the mastered CD was off to the replication plant and I have been chasing him ever since. It is not a large amount and will not bankrupt us but it is money I need to pay the rent and utilities. This is a client we have worked with for a number of years and this is the first time he has displayed this type of behavior. We offer older clients some leeway in payments but charge new clients a 50% upfront fee which a lot of them don't like but if they protest too loudly I know I may have problems getting paid when I complete the work.

The latest scam with clients is that after the work is done the want to renegotiate the fee. I have one of my clients that is still waiting for a client of his to pay him five thousand dollars for a mixing job he did for the client. His client called up after the project was completed and delivered that he though the billing was excessive and wanted my client to give him a 50% discount. My client may have to take his client to court to get his money and that may cost him more in lawyer fees than he can afford.

I guess Ronny's approach is the best and only one if you want to be paid in full for your work and make sure you don't run into problems later.
Title: Re: FYI, be careful (scam warning)
Post by: bblackwood on July 10, 2006, 09:06:34 AM
While I never expected this thread to turn into a discussion of deposit/trust, I'm with DC. I've never once asked for a deposit and have only been burned twice in my career. I simply don't ship the production master until we're paid in full (or have a PO)...
Title: Re: FYI, be careful (scam warning)
Post by: Ronny on July 11, 2006, 01:42:58 AM
bblackwood wrote on Mon, 10 July 2006 09:06

While I never expected this thread to turn into a discussion of deposit/trust, I'm with DC. I've never once asked for a deposit and have only been burned twice in my career. I simply don't ship the production master until we're paid in full (or have a PO)...


Even that isn't fool proof, take Ed's situation where he was paid, the masters left his hands, the client stopped payment on the credit card after he signed off. BTW, I'm glad that Ed and Mark resolved that issue, but it won't happen if they pay up front just like you buy a product from a company that you don't deal with eye-to-eye on the internet, you pay in full, they receive it in full, before they ship. My old time clients I don't worry about so much, it's the folks from over both ponds and south of the equator that I've never met and never will meet that I'm concerned about. I still do the 50% deposit with most people, but most clients just pay me in full before I start.

Two clients pay me before they even have the material to master, they do tv and radio spots and keep me on retainer so that I can rush their orders ahead of the line. These are typically short clips, 10, 15, 29, 44, and 59 seconds and it doesn't take me long at all to do them, so it's not really delaying anyone elses projects for more that a half hour or hour. When their account credit gets low, I let them know and they send me another check that I add the pre-fee to their accounts and we dwindle it back down as new clips come in, where once again I let them know their account is getting close to zero. This is a great situation, it's win-win for all. They asked me to do this, I didn't approach them with a pay me before you even hear the material yourself, it was totally their idea so that they can get rapid turnover, as the spots are a rush deal, they need the masters back the next day.
Title: Re: FYI, be careful (scam warning)
Post by: Mark Donahue on July 11, 2006, 11:05:49 AM
bblackwood wrote on Mon, 10 July 2006 09:06

While I never expected this thread to turn into a discussion of deposit/trust, I'm with DC. I've never once asked for a deposit and have only been burned twice in my career. I simply don't ship the production master until we're paid in full (or have a PO)...

I'm with Brad and DC. Paid in full or a PO and the masters can go out.
The bigger issue I have here is the occasional client that blows off the session. (Like this morning...grr) Do any of you take credit cards from clients when you book the session? This happens a couple of times a year and it is frustrating because there is no way to get another client into the slot with no notice.
If you do take credit cards at booking, how do you deal with them?
-mark
Title: Re: FYI, be careful (scam warning)
Post by: Thomas W. Bethel on July 11, 2006, 05:43:33 PM
A lot of rappers and hip hoppers are on a different time clock from everyone else. They say they will be here at 1:00 pm and at 4 pm I am still waiting for them to arrive. When you tell them up front that they are being charged from the time the are scheduled they nod their heads and say yea. But when you attempt to bill them for the time they freak out and say "hey man we ain't paying for time we didn't use". But of course you did not know that they were going to be three hours late and you could not schedule anyone else for the three hour block of time so you either eat the time charges or you do battle for the money.

The other problem is that people will schedule time for mastering and then call up the day of the session, ten minutes before it is suppose to start, and say they are not coming (their cat is having kittens, their wife is going to the beauty parlor and she needs the only car, the boss called and wants them to come in for a very important meeting even though it is their day off etc. etc.). Gee what do I do for the 8 hours you had booked? Then they want to reschedule the session for the next day when you already have someone coming for another session and when you tell them they can't have the date they get VERY upset. "What's the matter my money no good any more?" or something equally as stupid.

I guess Ronny's way is best for attended sessions get the money up front and just take the three hours or the eight hours out of the fee that they paid.

It seems like it is getting worse not better and more people are blowing off the session and forgetting to let you know 24 hours in advance.

I have one client that is always a half hour late getting to the sessions. Why I don't know but he does it EVERY time.
Title: Re: FYI, be careful (scam warning)
Post by: Tomás Mulcahy on July 13, 2006, 06:27:04 AM
dcollins wrote on Mon, 10 July 2006 05:41


Imo, you can tell a guy that just wants to get his record mastered from one with impure thoughts.

DC

That's true, you can tell over the telephone.

Those emails about unauthorised activity on your Paypal account are sent out randomly. I got a bunch of them after some transactions recently. So did my wife, and they were from the same sources. She does not have a Paypal account, but we use the same email ISP.

As has been said, Paypal state that they will never email you a URL. It's a simple and highly effective security measure.

I find their service excellent for the price, compared to a merchant CC account. I've never had a problem buyer though.
Title: Re: FYI, be careful (scam warning)
Post by: Thomas W. Bethel on July 13, 2006, 08:15:22 AM
Just got another one and if you look up the country code it comes back to Ghana

Here is the text from the email

Hello,

My name is John Marko, the event co-ordinator of Talent Page records. And with into music production, event management and grooming of young talented artist.
Our firm (Talent Page Records) and sponsors have agreed to henceforth make most of our recordings and productions in good proffessional studios abroad.We will be grateful if you could furnish me via email your price quotations (Hourly or daily) and list of equipments you have. For instance an album of about 14 songs, mastered, what discounts do we get ?
I will await your response Asap.

Best regards
John Marco.
Direct Line: 00 233 244 033 930.
Email: ***qzone_marko@yahoo.com***

I sent him a reply but have not heard back from him.




Title: Re: FYI, be careful (scam warning)
Post by: Thomas W. Bethel on July 13, 2006, 08:37:27 AM
bblackwood wrote on Mon, 10 July 2006 09:06

While I never expected this thread to turn into a discussion of deposit/trust, I'm with DC. I've never once asked for a deposit and have only been burned twice in my career. I simply don't ship the production master until we're paid in full (or have a PO)...



Different parts of the country? Different client base? Different ways of doing business? Different morals?

Talking to some of the studio owners around here (recording not mastering) they seem to get burned all the time.

One band racked up $2000.00 plus in recording fees and then the band broke up and they left the owner with nothing except a lot of work and nothing to show for it. The band is back together again but under a different name with some changes in personnel but they did the recording as a band which they now say is no longer a legal entity so they don't owe the studio owner anything.

Another studio owner is still trying to collect from a singer who had him do a lot of tracking work for her.  She demanded copies of everything they did (which he foolishly provided) and now refuses to pay him. At the same time she is bringing out a CD that she said a friend recorded and mixed at her house. Basically my friend did all the tracking for free and now cannot collect and the singer says that she will not pay him because she did not like the quality of his work but my friend is sure that the tracks she is using for the CD were the ones he recorded but she says they were recorded in her house.

Another recording studio owner is still trying to collect his money from a rap artist who after running up a very large bill at his studio suddenly got religion, denounced his rapper image and now refuses to pay for the recordings which he now says  were done under the influences of the devil.

Must be that influence of Lake Erie or something in the water.

Is it any wonder that there is approximately 1 lawyer for every 100 people in this geographical area?
Title: Re: FYI, be careful (scam warning)
Post by: Ronny on July 13, 2006, 05:07:34 PM
Thomas W. Bethel wrote on Thu, 13 July 2006 08:37

bblackwood wrote on Mon, 10 July 2006 09:06

While I never expected this thread to turn into a discussion of deposit/trust, I'm with DC. I've never once asked for a deposit and have only been burned twice in my career. I simply don't ship the production master until we're paid in full (or have a PO)...



Different parts of the country? Different client base? Different ways of doing business? Different morals?

Talking to some of the studio owners around here (recording not mastering) they seem to get burned all the time.

One band racked up $2000.00 plus in recording fees and then the band broke up and they left the owner with nothing except a lot of work and nothing to show for it. The band is back together again but under a different name with some changes in personnel but they did the recording as a band which they now say is no longer a legal entity so they don't owe the studio owner anything.

Another studio owner is still trying to collect from a singer who had him do a lot of tracking work for her.  She demanded copies of everything they did (which he foolishly provided) and now refuses to pay him. At the same time she is bringing out a CD that she said a friend recorded and mixed at her house. Basically my friend did all the tracking for free and now cannot collect and the singer says that she will not pay him because she did not like the quality of his work but my friend is sure that the tracks she is using for the CD were the ones he recorded but she says they were recorded in her house.

Another recording studio owner is still trying to collect his money from a rap artist who after running up a very large bill at his studio suddenly got religion, denounced his rapper image and now refuses to pay for the recordings which he now says  were done under the influences of the devil.

Must be that influence of Lake Erie or something in the water.

Is it any wonder that there is approximately 1 lawyer for every 100 people in this geographical area?




That reminds me of a guitarist that I know. He borrowed a brand new Fender guitar amp from one of the small locally owned music stores to try out. The owner of the store had a heart attack a couple of days later and died, he was the only one that knew he was trying the amp out, so he ripped off the guys wife who inherited the store. A couple of years later I saw him on one on the Christian television shows, preaching and playing music. He said "I used to play music for the devil, but now I play it for the lord", behind him was the Fender amp that he never returned. The music that he says he's playing for the lord now, is coming through the amp that the devil made him steal. ha ha ha
Title: Re: FYI, be careful (scam warning)
Post by: bblackwood on July 17, 2006, 07:41:31 AM
Thomas W. Bethel wrote on Thu, 13 July 2006 07:37

bblackwood wrote on Mon, 10 July 2006 09:06

While I never expected this thread to turn into a discussion of deposit/trust, I'm with DC. I've never once asked for a deposit and have only been burned twice in my career. I simply don't ship the production master until we're paid in full (or have a PO)...



Different parts of the country? Different client base? Different ways of doing business? Different morals?

Talking to some of the studio owners around here (recording not mastering) they seem to get burned all the time.

I dunno, I just rarely get burned. I mean, we basically hold the master for ransom, so how would we get screwed? The only way it can happen is if the client uses the ref as a production master. You can't avoid the band break-up, etc, but that's really uncommon.

And, at least in TN, the guy who sets up the session is responsible unless someone else volunteers. IOW, that band you mentioned that broke up still owes the money - the individual who booked the session would be the responsible party here. And we go after dead-beats.
Title: Re: FYI, be careful (scam warning)
Post by: Thomas W. Bethel on July 17, 2006, 08:01:43 AM
Got another one from ichigbufue@yahoo.co.uk



hello
    how are u doing well i hope u are fine pls i actually went through ur site and i would want to make use of ur studio for the recording of my track well this is actually going to be my first recording well i hope to hear from u soon pls take care of ur self
                                        thots
                                              wini


Not sure if this guy is saving space in his emails or can't spell.


Title: Re: FYI, be careful (scam warning)
Post by: Thomas W. Bethel on July 19, 2006, 07:51:29 AM
Another one from vera_woods222@fastermail.com


hello
    how are u doing well i hope u are fine pls i went through ur
site and i think u guys are really good pls i would want to do my
recording in ur studio well i hope that would be posible well i
hope to hear from u soon pls take care of ur self
                                             thots
                                                 vera


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