Patrik T wrote on Wed, 15 December 2010 12:22 |
undertow - in the obvious hunt for clarity; way too much sizzle and sharpness. the word "exciter" comes to mind. sounds too analytical. |
UnderTow wrote on Wed, 15 December 2010 21:15 |
that distorted guitar |
domc wrote on Thu, 16 December 2010 23:11 |
wump's are so cool - its great to see so many different takes on the one thing - we all have different ears and different rooms |
aivoryuk wrote on Mon, 20 December 2010 15:56 |
Ed Littman - Nice Job although the volume drop at 2:40 seems really noticeable so overall I think the dynamics could have been ironed out more. |
pmx wrote on Wed, 22 December 2010 20:02 |
hope to get to do a good listen after christmas, my former studio with my big desk in it burned down today (made the national news!) so i'm busy with other stuff the next few days. happy christmas y'all. |
pmx wrote on Wed, 22 December 2010 13:02 |
hope to get to do a good listen after christmas, my former studio with my big desk in it burned down today (made the national news!) so i'm busy with other stuff the next few days. happy christmas y'all. |
pmx wrote on Wed, 22 December 2010 20:02 |
hope to get to do a good listen after christmas, my former studio with my big desk in it burned down today (made the national news!) so i'm busy with other stuff the next few days. happy christmas y'all. |
pmx wrote on Wed, 22 December 2010 20:02 |
hope to get to do a good listen after christmas, my former studio with my big desk in it burned down today (made the national news!) so i'm busy with other stuff the next few days. happy christmas y'all. |
UnderTow wrote on Tue, 21 December 2010 23:26 |
In short, I should have checked the rendered file before uploading. |
Gregg Janman wrote on Fri, 24 December 2010 00:50 |
P.S. I am also pretty horrified that someone would let a file out the door that hadn't actually been listened to/checked (especially on a forum full of great mastering engineers in a mastering shoot out), but it's not the first time I have heard of this happening! |
UnderTow wrote on Mon, 27 December 2010 14:55 |
It might help if the deadline wasn't on a week day. |
MoreSpaceEcho wrote on Mon, 27 December 2010 19:43 | ||
dude, you had two weeks to do it. |
MoreSpaceEcho wrote on Tue, 28 December 2010 02:18 |
i'd be happy to check out your proper version! |
djwaudio wrote on Mon, 27 December 2010 22:37 |
This is my second WUMP, and I find the whole thing a little defeating, since there is a lot of knee jerk response to what we dislike about the submissions. It would be nice to see a little more support for our brethren. I've fallen into that trap a little as well, but I'm not hearing anything that would put Bernie Grundman out of business here. |
aivoryuk wrote on Wed, 29 December 2010 16:00 |
about 10/19 comments so far, I would of hoped for a few more by now as it has been over 2 weeks. If people want to start posting their techniques and setting (might as well in this same thread) then by all means. cheers |
Ed Littman wrote on Tue, 11 January 2011 03:46 |
I reduced the pops & crackles by both the vocals & later the drums. |
gertvanhoof wrote on Wed, 12 January 2011 08:44 | ||
Hi Ed,
Would you care to elaborate on what you did exactly to get rid of these artefacts? |
djwaudio wrote on Fri, 14 January 2011 02:15 |
L2 about 6dB GR on the loudest parts |
MoreSpaceEcho wrote on Fri, 14 January 2011 20:01 |
it makes me think that, as much as we ME's are always crying "it's the clients!" in discussions about the loudness war, a lot of ME's tend to default to making stuff a good bit louder than it needs to be, and this is not helping things AT ALL. (…) but it is something i'd like to talk about with you guys, so in the hopes of sparking a gentlemanly conversation amongst colleagues... |
gertvanhoof wrote on Fri, 14 January 2011 19:19 |
Maybe, after years of being conditioned to louden things up, we've come to the point that our own perception of loudness is being biased/skewed severely by what we consider to be today's clients' expectations? |
MoreSpaceEcho wrote on Fri, 14 January 2011 11:01 | ||
ok, i'm really, really not trying to be a dick here, but i have to ask: why would you be rocking the L2 for 6db(!) when the brief clearly said "i don't care about loudness at all, put it where you think it sounds good"? i realize this wasn't the greatest mix ever made, by any stretch, but it was certainly alright, and i put a lot of effort into it. as the mixing guy, it's really Incredibly Depressing to do all that work, say to the ME "don't worry about the level" and then still get a pancake back. seriously, when the mix comes back completely paved over, it makes me not want to get out of bed for a week. |
chrisdoremus wrote on Fri, 14 January 2011 09:58 |
So how do you like the Prism multi-band? |
djwaudio wrote on Fri, 14 January 2011 21:41 |
The last thing in the world I have is any interest in, is debating loudness... I am, however, interested in the craft of mastering, as a way to help the listener conjure the creative feeling the artist had when laying down the tracks or writing the song. |
djwaudio wrote on Fri, 14 January 2011 20:41 |
The last thing in the world I have is any interest in, is debating loudness... |
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I doubt I'd make a change in the levels, probably just a bit cleaner. |
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I love this song by the way! |
gertvanhoof wrote on Fri, 14 January 2011 13:15 | ||
Well… As I see it, this WUMP clearly points out that loudness remains an issue in our continuing quest to get the message across. So why would we shy away from debating that peculiar aspect of our craft? Best regards, |
MoreSpaceEcho wrote on Fri, 14 January 2011 13:20 |
would you argue with the client if they said "it's way too loud and hurts my ears"? |
djwaudio wrote on Sat, 15 January 2011 02:16 |
Feel free; have a field day discussing the evils of loud records, or the merits... People like it loud in the car, to cover the road noise. I have no problem with that, as long as it doesn't make the music sound bad. I do applaud the efforts of the anti-loud movement, as I now have clients who are aware of the subject and have some perspective on what they want. |
gertvanhoof wrote on Fri, 14 January 2011 19:19 | ||
Fair point and thank you for putting things into perspective. Maybe, after years of being conditioned to louden things up, we've come to the point that our own perception of loudness is being biased/skewed severely by what we consider to be today's clients' expectations? I'm not too proud at all about my own entry in this respect. On the other hand, looking back on last year's output, excessive level isn't my "default setting" by any means. That said, the ability to nail down a track to its "natural" level without the context of an album appears to me as an important skill for today's and tomorrow's mastering engineers. Best regards, |
Patrik T wrote on Sat, 29 January 2011 06:59 |
I would like to suggest a very basic and simple WUMP rule: If someone participates, uploads a master, get it reviewed and then fail to review the other masters, he is not qualified to WUMP in the future. Best Regards Patrik |