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Title: Pro Tools + Linux.. when? see this
Post by: Alécio Costa - Brazil on August 17, 2005, 04:52:30 PM
While there is no Pro Tools for Linux, seems we have a far cousin of his doing fine.
Enjoy it:
Looks pretty decent!
http://ardour.org/
Title: Re: Pro Tools + Linux.. when? see this
Post by: zetterstroem on August 18, 2005, 04:50:27 AM
who's missing protools on linux??
Title: Re: Pro Tools + Linux.. when? see this
Post by: Bob Olhsson on August 18, 2005, 08:14:30 AM
My experience with audio software has been that, with a very few exceptions, quality is directly proportional to the skills and experience of the users who have given feedback to the developers. Most have proven practically useless until they've benefited from at least five years of full-time pro user feedback.
Title: Re: Pro Tools + Linux.. when? see this
Post by: danickstr on August 18, 2005, 05:45:17 PM
bo is as usual, correct.  but in order to get the 5 years started, it is up to some of us to jump in!  i too think it looks interesting and while I am not currently running Linux, i have thought about it, since it gets easier and is free and fully configurable!!!
Title: Re: Pro Tools + Linux.. when? see this
Post by: Nicolas on August 19, 2005, 12:52:24 AM
hmm, I already paid my software - so why would I care now if something else is offered for free? Smile

Nicolas
Title: Re: Pro Tools + Linux.. when? see this
Post by: Jack Schitt on August 19, 2005, 06:17:38 AM
Mac OSX is basically BSD Unix with Apple's propriery GUI hung on it. So a lot of people are essentially running Pro Audio on Unix already.
Title: Re: Pro Tools + Linux.. when? see this
Post by: Blumpy on August 19, 2005, 11:28:44 AM
I don't think the issue with an working professional is the price of recording software.  

Where this could be really important to the community is developing new ideas.  If it (the software) does some useful functions that others do not, it would be worth it's weight in gold.

I for one would be more than happy to pay for an innovative product.  But it would have to be pretty damned unique and useful to warrant owning and maintaining a Linux system.  

No one who owns a DAW is going to switch unless everyone else has switched.  It would have to be far superior a solution for anyone to switch.  If I were the developer, I'd start by trying to do something that no one else is doing, but supplemental to other DAWs and would therefor need to be available on the Mac (music) and Windows (post-pro).

Title: Re: Pro Tools + Linux.. when? see this
Post by: Dave Peck on August 19, 2005, 11:52:57 AM
Blumpy wrote on Fri, 19 August 2005 16:28

  If it (the software) does some useful functions that others do not, it would be worth it's weight in gold.



hehe. Yeah, I'm sure a lot of us have been subjected to  software that was 'worth it's weight in gold'.  Confused

Dave Peck
Title: Re: Pro Tools + Linux.. when? see this
Post by: Blumpy on August 19, 2005, 12:05:05 PM
Considering software doesn't weigh anything........ Very Happy
Title: Re: Pro Tools + Linux.. when? see this
Post by: Jack Schitt on August 19, 2005, 06:09:24 PM
Blumpy wrote on Fri, 19 August 2005 11:28



I for one would be more than happy to pay for an innovative product.  But it would have to be pretty damned unique and useful to warrant owning and maintaining a Linux system.  




That seems a little over the top unless you meant it in the sense of maintaining two systems instead of one. Linux isn't all that difficult. Granted, to switch for no benefit would be pretty stupid but Linux as a platform just isn't a big deal. The hardware limitations commonly given aren't as severe a what Protools demanded of its users once upon a time and is getting better in pretty short order these days.

The reality to me is that the draw of Linux is the stability of the platform. As much as I don't like MS the reality is that XP Pro is a very stable workstation platform as long as you keep it off the internet.
Title: Re: Pro Tools + Linux.. when? see this
Post by: Bob Olhsson on August 19, 2005, 10:30:09 PM
Blumpy wrote on Fri, 19 August 2005 10:28

...If I were the developer, I'd start by trying to do something that no one else is doing, but supplemental to other DAWs and would therefor need to be available on the Mac (music) and Windows (post-pro).
Exactly. One thing that would be extremely useful is a dynamite dedicated software multitrack recorder. This could even be Unix.

Why are we still emulating porta-studios anyway?
Title: Re: Pro Tools + Linux.. when? see this
Post by: Blumpy on August 20, 2005, 12:15:36 AM
I was just referring to maintain two systems, not just Linux alone.
Title: Re: Pro Tools + Linux.. when? see this
Post by: Blumpy on August 20, 2005, 12:18:08 AM
Like a AAF/PT EDL compatible radar?  I'd like that, especially if it were embedded.
Title: Re: Pro Tools + Linux.. when? see this
Post by: Bob Olhsson on August 20, 2005, 04:40:37 PM
Blumpy wrote on Fri, 19 August 2005 23:18

Like a AAF/PT EDL compatible...
That would be icky! Yon't need EDLs when 80 gig drives only cost $50!

It needs to be real generic. (We have an international standard audio file format if only people will use it.)

It needs to be able to record 24 bit timestamped BWVs and able to consolidate files against a start time. Doesn't really even need editing capability, just recording and playing back as many channels against timecode as your sound card(s) can handle. That and a good locater system. If that's all it's trying to do, the locater could be a real killer!

Timestamped BWV files are compatible with absolutely everything on Earth but digital performer and even it can convert them.
Title: Re: Pro Tools + Linux.. when? see this
Post by: danickstr on August 22, 2005, 06:50:56 PM
I think the main advantage of a Linux system is that we, the owners, would not be victimized by "updates" to the OS.  Linux systems are extremely versatile in their modular composition, and a working system could be viable with newer updates through the proper interface add-ons, not having to worry about rank and file updates disabling other non affected support systems.  

Pick and choose what parts are needing updates and the others stay working!

It is also an extremely efficient OS in its kernal form, and add-ons can be done piece by piece.

It could also keep dongles out of the equation as shareware plugs become better.  

All that is needed is several years of trial and error, and if enough people are happy with it, it will support itself just as other Linux sites and programs are able.  

Go Linux. Smile