Post by: ktownson on January 19, 2011, 11:28:51 AM
Check out the retro green screen! And the light pen lives! An updated take on 80's state-of-the-art samplers which will even dial down to vintage 7 or 8-bit samples if you really want to.
Synth geeks were lusting bigtime after this gem when it premiered. At about $20k in 1980 dollars, that's about all most of us could do. Dreamed of a Fairlight or Synclavier, bought a Mirage.
If you watch to the end, he says they're making 100 of the retro units for nostalgia sake, then probably a hardware card/software package for home computers after that.
Post by: Jim Williams on January 19, 2011, 11:36:33 AM
Post by: ktownson on January 19, 2011, 12:05:26 PM
Post by: Jim Williams on January 19, 2011, 08:05:46 PM
I thought THIS was the year I would actually hear an audio mix through the Neve console, but alas, they didn't even bring one this year.
Post by: Phil Mayor on January 19, 2011, 09:47:31 PM
Post by: Tim Halligan on January 19, 2011, 11:34:35 PM
| ktownson wrote on Thu, 20 January 2011 01:05 |
I think they're looking to raise some capital; notice he didn't show off what it sounded like, a fairly important detail in a sampler IMO. |
When I was over at Fairlight last year, they told me they were going to great efforts to make sure the sound was authentic.
Cheers,
Tim
Post by: Larrchild on January 19, 2011, 11:48:28 PM
Light Pens!
96 PPB pulses!
Disks like small Pizzas!
I was there...
Post by: zmix on January 19, 2011, 11:56:26 PM
If they're going to recreate the "sound" of the CMI they'll need to use an asynchronus playback system with tracking filters... (I was there, too!)
Post by: Larrchild on January 20, 2011, 12:51:49 AM
Post by: Tidewater on January 20, 2011, 01:08:08 AM
Makes you want to drive a 308, and wear a Members Only jacket, or at least joke about it.
Post by: Tidewater on January 20, 2011, 01:10:31 AM
| Tim Halligan wrote on Wed, 19 January 2011 23:34 |
When I was over at Fairlight last year, they told me they were going to great efforts to make sure the sound was authentic. Cheers, Tim |
That is EXACTLY what the Gibson rep was explaining to me about the '59 Les Paul reissues, and the 19th version of modern PAFs. They went to great lengths! (he said a bunch)
Post by: zmix on January 20, 2011, 01:15:21 AM
| Larrchild wrote on Thu, 20 January 2011 00:51 |
Who amongst us can hear a "kotobend" sample today and not get somewhat misty? |
Very "Saxy"... I still have a "Page R" manual....
Post by: Larrchild on January 20, 2011, 03:47:59 AM
Since it's owners had abandoned it for the more svelte Synclavier, I was it's curator and quickly said "sure!". 30 mins later, a rather plain rentacar pulls in and sure as heck, an actual George Clinton is in front of me. Not the film guy, either. He grabbed the apparatus and my samples and barreled back off after some short and pleasant conversation. I was invited to drop in and visited them the next day. They seemed to be having a good time. I had not heard 2 utterly funky people use it before and came away with 'ideas', lol. Oh, also, I was watching "Howard the Duck" and heard my sample! Fame by 8" disk.
Post by: Jon Hodgson on January 20, 2011, 06:28:04 AM
Thirty years of technological advances and masses of processing power (that crystalcore engine is a beast) used to emulate hardware that is less complex than the phone in your pocket.
I'd also love to see someone do the opposite, use those same advances to build something that's close to the original in circuitry, but the size of a mac mini and costing 400 bucks.
Not because it's necessary, or even because it's marketable, but just because for me it's cool, as "engineering art".
Post by: François Kevorkian on January 20, 2011, 11:39:08 AM
| Jon Hodgson wrote on Thu, 20 January 2011 11:28 |
The mad scientist in me loves it. Thirty years of technological advances and masses of processing power (that crystalcore engine is a beast) used to emulate hardware that is less complex than the phone in your pocket. I'd also love to see someone do the opposite, use those same advances to build something that's close to the original in circuitry, but the size of a mac mini and costing 400 bucks. |
Funny you'd say this, before reading the thread the first thing that came to mind is that they probably made an iPad virtual version of the thing ....
But since coincidentally I am right in the middle of a session using a bunch of analog synths that were made around 1977~79, have to say that there's something truly awesome about old classic hardware (when it works)
Remember seeing a Fairlight CMI at an auction a few years ago, it went for something like $150.
Post by: Fenris Wulf on January 21, 2011, 01:39:45 AM
Every DAW on the market has a completely unpredictable amount of MIDI jitter, ranging from 5 ms to 20 ms, enough to affect the feel of the music. When you hook up an external controller to a sofware sampler, and it's like somebody encased your keyboard in a thin layer of rubber.
As a keyboardist, I find this to be less than acceptable.
For this and many other reasons, I am
FINISHED
with DAW technology. I've struggled for years to make it work right and I've had enough. I'm never spending another penny on it. As soon as we have the money for a 2" machine, the DAW is getting thrown off the roof.
If I do electronic-oriented music in the future, I'll be using hardware samplers, hardware synths, and hardware sound modules. For sequencing I'll use an Atari ST chasing SMPTE off the 2".
Pianos and organs will be the real thing. The cost of an old upright piano, an old electric piano, or a Hammond M3 with a DIY Leslie compares favorably to the cost of software emulations.