J.J. Blair wrote on Thu, 08 October 2009 23:48 |
Klaus, I think this is a great idea. I suggest that it would be better for you to list these things, because there's no way for us to do it anonymously. I don't necessarily want people to know that perhaps I overpaid on one mic, or that perhaps I got a steal on another, even though I think those sales are good to have in the database. If we could supply you with the verifiable info, and you make the post, I think people would be more forthcoming with the information. Bottom line, there's going to be no easy way to do this, and unless you have a co-moderator on that, it's going to be a lot of work. Excuse me for thinking out loud here, but one way you could do a co-moderator, would be to do it as a separate forum, with a single topic, and you and somebody else have mod privileges, and can help with the work load. I'm already a mod on PSW, and would be willing to help run the database. So, whoever the mod is could do a post with a pic of the mic, serial number, condition, sale price, geographic location of seller, and then list if it's a private sale, from a dealer, or an eBay sale. Also, if there's a trusted source, like David knowing about that U47 that he inspected, and he can verify that the final price was $X, that should be able to be reported. There will be plenty of pitfalls, but I think it could be done. |
seedyunderbelly.com wrote on Mon, 12 October 2009 19:50 |
Sorry but this is silly/illogical on several levels. |
Klaus Heyne wrote on Wed, 11 August 2010 17:04 |
With other words: remotely done estimates of mic values are not a good method for getting realistic pricing. |
John Monforte wrote on Thu, 08 October 2009 20:35 |
I would find more useful a registry of mics and serial numbers that can identify owners of mics. That way if one gets stolen and put into the marketplace, a potential buyer could identify it and verify its provenance. Gotham Audio used to do this for the Neumanns it sold. It helped many owners get their mics back. |
antoniosolo wrote on Thu, 19 August 2010 12:37 |
I welcome some guidance, in my future purchases, from this forum and its respected members. |
antoniosolo wrote on Thu, 19 August 2010 14:37 |
I am not arguing that the value established as fair must be the selling price, we value our personal belongings differently. |
antoniosolo wrote on Thu, 19 August 2010 14:37 |
Surely there can, and should, be a system whereby value is established, with "agreement" being the next step in a normal purchase agreement. We aren't setting rules, only establishing some documented values and benchmarks to establish worth. |
Stephen Andrew Bright wrote on Thu, 19 August 2010 17:07 |
-- if you are in the market for a vintage mic, the first thing to do is check ebay and see what that mic has been selling for. Unfortunately, ebay only archives about 30-90 days of previous sales, and most vintage mics don't sell very often in that time frame. Wouldn't it be great if this info was archived for years or even decades instead of just days? |
Stephen Andrew Bright wrote on Thu, 19 August 2010 17:07 |
Who cares if the price fluctuates all over the place? The more data points you have, the more accurate your conclusions will be. Trends will be made clear -- like the selling price for a Schoeps M221b is currently going down. |
Stephen Andrew Bright wrote on Fri, 20 August 2010 10:30 |
It would be VERY easy to get a Vintage Mic Registry that consisted of screen shots of completed eBay sales. |
Stephen Andrew Bright wrote on Fri, 20 August 2010 10:30 |
This would identify the seller (and hence whether or not he is a dealer), the final selling price, 1 photo, and the description. It can be all done with no typing in about 30 seconds time. |
Stephen Andrew Bright wrote on Fri, 20 August 2010 10:30 |
You don't even have to be the buyer to post. People could just follow a couple of mics -- like they might do anyway -- and just take screen shots of the completed sale, no matter who wins. |
Klaus Heyne wrote on Fri, 20 August 2010 11:33 |
How do you think Meg Whitman became a billionaire? |
Klaus Heyne wrote on Sat, 21 August 2010 01:23 |
Your arriving at an "average" price for a DX77 by adding $5000 to $500, then dividing by 2 is not the way to get at reasonable pricing data for vintage mics. To obtain useful averages you need a recent, large, data base, not just two mics without any reference to sell date and condition at time of sale. |
Klaus Heyne wrote on Sat, 21 August 2010 01:23 |
Judging just from first hand experience alone, popular vintage mics in original, well-working, condition have not seen any discernible drop in prices over the last two years. What as shrunk somewhat but, not significantly,in this economic climate is the market for marginal models in marginal condition. |