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alanfc

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So I think I'm hearing stereo Bass guitar
« on: October 17, 2005, 01:43:21 PM »

So I think I'm hearing stereo Bass guitar
on this reference I have in my system (Sonar)
The song is Fugazi's "Waiting Room".

Am I really hearing the bass guitar in stereo? It seems to envelop everything without dominating everything.

Before our next recording I want to get this straight once and for all. I'm trying to reproduce this deep wide bass I'm hearing, it pleases me.
Thing is, everyone says bass only goes down the center.
It sounds dumb to ask but - - -  can you tell me what I'm hearing?
Thanks Smile
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takeout

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Re: So I think I'm hearing stereo Bass guitar
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2005, 01:58:22 PM »

The palm-muted guitars follow the bass line on the verses.  That's what you're hearing.
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j.hall

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Re: So I think I'm hearing stereo Bass guitar
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2005, 04:08:11 PM »

yeah man, fugazi are kings at tricking you with chord structure.  those guys have so many songs where each guy is playing a single note part but they are collectively creating a giant chord.  it just comes at you from all sides.....brilliant way to write and arragne, IMO.

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NelsonL

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Re: So I think I'm hearing stereo Bass guitar
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2005, 04:19:07 PM »

Absolutely--

Of course time spent trying to actually sound like Fugazi would be... water down the drain. They're truly one of a kind.

On a semi-related note-- we played our first all ages show in a good while last night. I have to say, it felt really good.
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alanfc

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Re: So I think I'm hearing stereo Bass guitar
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2005, 05:02:24 PM »


thanks guys-
indeed I'm not trying to sound just like them....
It just was an extreme example. Songs on the radio I'm hearing this too, but I haven't DL'd or bought any to try in my system yet.
Its this bass thats everywhere, but not dominant, do you know what I mean?
thanks
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floodstage

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Re: So I think I'm hearing stereo Bass guitar
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2005, 05:09:42 PM »

 A bit off topic ....  speaking of Fugazi, (sort of) anyone heard this?

http://www.partyben.com/PartyBen-FugaziChild-IndependentRoom .mp3

Twisted Evil
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NelsonL

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Re: So I think I'm hearing stereo Bass guitar
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2005, 05:33:04 PM »

alanfc wrote on Mon, 17 October 2005 14:02


indeed I'm not trying to sound just like them....



Oh I know, I was just trying to think of a way to incorporate the lyric into my post.

Chalk it up to stupid human tricks.
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j.hall

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Re: So I think I'm hearing stereo Bass guitar
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2005, 05:35:17 PM »

floodstage wrote on Mon, 17 October 2005 16:09

 A bit off topic ....  speaking of Fugazi, (sort of) anyone heard this?

 http://www.partyben.com/PartyBen-FugaziChild-IndependentRoom .mp3

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what the hell?

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bblackwood

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Re: So I think I'm hearing stereo Bass guitar
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2005, 05:47:30 PM »

5k!
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floodstage

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Re: So I think I'm hearing stereo Bass guitar
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2005, 07:16:54 PM »

It's a mash-up.

Someone ducked the Fugazi voc's, "borrowed" Destiny's Child's vocs and did a re mix with what was left.

I would be highly surprized if it was done with anyone's permission.

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alanfc

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Re: So I think I'm hearing stereo Bass guitar
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2005, 07:33:30 PM »


So am I just imagining this wide bass sound?
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j.hall

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Re: So I think I'm hearing stereo Bass guitar
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2005, 11:46:38 PM »

it's not really a ducked vocal more then it's just a looped verse part.

alan, sorta.......

like takeout said, you're hearing "bass" coming from multiple places when the guitars are palm muting in the verse part....it's a classic fugazi move.
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rollmottle

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Re: So I think I'm hearing stereo Bass guitar
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2005, 02:14:16 AM »

floodstage wrote on Mon, 17 October 2005 14:09

 A bit off topic ....  speaking of Fugazi, (sort of) anyone heard this?

 http://www.partyben.com/PartyBen-FugaziChild-IndependentRoom .mp3

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being one of the biggest Fugazi fans, i must say i'm extremely appalled yet extremely amused...on another note, mash-ups need to die.
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Re: So I think I'm hearing stereo Bass guitar
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2005, 06:23:11 AM »

I tend to use stereo bass on almost everything I record.  I do one track from the miced amp, and one from a DI.  A lot of times I hard pan the signals left and right and balance them for volume.  It seems to be the only way I can get bass to be audible and not just felt.  That leaves me the center for the kick.  
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j.hall

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Re: So I think I'm hearing stereo Bass guitar
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2005, 09:50:59 AM »

so what do you do about mono compatibility?

the mic'd amp will arrive later then the DI leaving you with phase issues in the bottom.  unless you are correcting this with a little labs box or nudging it in a DAW, i think this practice is far to risky for me to adopt.  and it should be noted to others reading this that it could be potentially hazardous.
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