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[pete andrews]

to those in the know.....

i'm about to send a project out for pressing and i have a couple copies of the master to choose from: the HOT one and the "one notch less than HOT" one. (let's call them the +7 and +6 masters).
+7 sounds alright in most CD players with the exception of one older unit i have in my van on which certain points clip. Other CD players handle it fine.
the question is (i think i know the answer, but...) if this version is blowing away an older, cheap CD player like this - but sounds fine in most others.... this SHOULD NOT be sent as the master for the press plant. correct? better safe than sorry. thoughts on this? anyone see masters do things like this?

thanks for the help.

-pete

[Ronny]

jerkrecords wrote on Mon, 22 August 2005 08:16

to those in the know..... i'm about to send a project out for pressing and i have a couple copies of the master to choose from: the HOT one and the "one notch less than HOT" one. (let's call them the +7 and +6 masters). +7 sounds alright in most CD players with the exception of one older unit i have in my van on which certain points clip. Other CD players handle it fine. the question is (i think i know the answer, but...) if this version is blowing away an older, cheap CD player like this - but sounds fine in most others.... this SHOULD NOT be sent as the master for the press plant. correct? better safe than sorry. thoughts on this? anyone see masters do things like this? thanks for the help. -pete

Typically it's peak gain and or heavy low end that's going to distort small audio speakers. Let's hope that you meant -6 and -7 masters and are meaning RMS dB's. Because both a +6 or +7dBFs peak cd is going to distort on anything that it plays on. Personally I would much rather go with a 1dB decrease in RMS gain than risk the cd distorting on other peoples car players. Both cd's should be the same peak level and the only + or - 1dB difference should be RMS level, which isn't typically going to have one cd distorting and the other not.

[TotalSonic]

well... every stereo system has this cool button called the "volume knob" that you can turn up if things sound too soft.  But there isn't a single stereo out there that has a "undo distortion" button.  So if you have already experienced a problem with the hotter master in a low-fi player I would go with the less hot one as the one to use for replication.    In general if your master has more headroom it will sound better when broadcast over radio also.  

Best regards,
Steve Berson

[mikepecchio]

you didn't say what the style of music is.  if this is a jazz re-release or similar you are probably doing very bad!  if this is the latest short lived hip hop sensation I wouldn't worry about it one bit. maybe even make it distort "mom's wack stereo" more, son.

mike p

[brett]

mikepecchio wrote on Thu, 25 August 2005 02:13

you didn't say what the style of music is.  if this is a jazz re-release or similar you are probably doing very bad!  if this is the latest short lived hip hop sensation I wouldn't worry about it one bit. maybe even make it distort "mom's wack stereo" more, son. mike p

"turn it up!.......Bring the noise!"  LOL

[Jerry Tubb]

jerkrecords wrote on Mon, 22 August 2005 07:16

i have a couple copies of the master to choose from: the HOT one and the "one notch less than HOT" one.

Send the "one notch less than HOT" one.

Your ears will thank you later.

[pete andrews]

yes - the hotter one will remain on our junk cdr pile.
BTW the +6 and +7 were references to some setting in masterlist.

pete