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Tidewater

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Re: Production or 'Spec' Deals?
« Reply #105 on: November 29, 2005, 08:44:29 am »

I detest the Nashville writer's paradigm; bring song to publisher, publisher calls friends, friends change 3 words, everyone eats writer's carcass.

Well, that and country/rap.


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Re: Production or 'Spec' Deals?
« Reply #106 on: November 29, 2005, 11:39:16 pm »

DivideByZero wrote on Tue, 29 November 2005 07:44

I detest the Nashville writer's paradigm; bring song to publisher, publisher calls friends, friends change 3 words, everyone eats writer's carcass.



And you don't know what the hell you're talking about. I don't see that happening - ever. Not with professional writers and professional publishers.
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Re: Production or 'Spec' Deals?
« Reply #107 on: November 30, 2005, 10:33:33 am »

Ok, It never happens to people you know.

heh... and just try and deny country rap..


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Re: Production or 'Spec' Deals?
« Reply #108 on: November 30, 2005, 11:36:57 am »

DivideByZero wrote on Wed, 30 November 2005 09:33

Ok, It never happens to people you know.

heh... and just try and deny country rap..


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Does it count if I'm in denial about country rap?
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Re: Production or 'Spec' Deals?
« Reply #109 on: November 30, 2005, 11:55:30 am »

Farmer Dre.


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Re: Production or 'Spec' Deals?
« Reply #110 on: December 02, 2005, 03:36:14 pm »

Dave Martin wrote on Wed, 30 November 2005 04:39

DivideByZero wrote on Tue, 29 November 2005 07:44

I detest the Nashville writer's paradigm; bring song to publisher, publisher calls friends, friends change 3 words, everyone eats writer's carcass.



And you don't know what the hell you're talking about. I don't see that happening - ever. Not with professional writers and professional publishers.



I've seen this thing happening several times over here, whenever someone writes a good song and a famous artist picks it up. The artist changes a word or three and presto, he/she will also get a piece of that action. There are some large names overseas doing this as well, then again it's all part of the game so you'll just have to deal with it.


Mind you, none of the artists I know doing it are from Nashville! <- Disclaimer


Then again, ymmv.
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Re: Production or 'Spec' Deals?
« Reply #111 on: December 03, 2005, 04:37:05 pm »

Tomas Danko wrote on Fri, 02 December 2005 12:36



I've seen this thing happening several times over here, whenever someone writes a good song and a famous artist picks it up. The artist changes a word or three and presto, he/she will also get a piece of that action. There are some large names overseas doing this as well, then again it's all part of the game so you'll just have to deal with it.






Yet everyone bitches and moans when the guy sitting behind the console, offering his time space and equipment for free, asks for a small percentage of publishing to make up for the time he put in.
Which usually is more time than anyone else involved.

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Re: Production or 'Spec' Deals?
« Reply #112 on: December 04, 2005, 01:43:13 pm »

henchman wrote on Sat, 03 December 2005 21:37

Tomas Danko wrote on Fri, 02 December 2005 12:36


I've seen this thing happening several times over here, whenever someone writes a good song and a famous artist picks it up. The artist changes a word or three and presto, he/she will also get a piece of that action. There are some large names overseas doing this as well, then again it's all part of the game so you'll just have to deal with it.



Yet everyone bitches and moans when the guy sitting behind the console, offering his time space and equipment for free, asks for a small percentage of publishing to make up for the time he put in.
Which usually is more time than anyone else involved.


You are very right about this. You don't start working as an audio engineer for the money, it'll be a huge disappointment in the end. Nah, as we all know you have to get into it because it's what your life is all about.

The different aspect regarding the topic stated above, is that without the artist the song won't be sold. And without changing a few words, the artist won't get the dough. So it's just the way it is. Personally I'm fine with that, I'm even fine with A&R people "improving" a song with two words because it wasn't "sellable" until after this "improvement". Whatever it takes for this A&R guy to do his best and make sure it ends up on a record. If I don't dig this, I just stay out of this kind of business.

Oh, wait. I think it's just what I did a few years ago. Smile

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Re: Production or 'Spec' Deals?
« Reply #113 on: December 05, 2005, 11:54:23 am »

If you know any good songs, I have spare good words.

Call me.


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