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Re: fiona apple's new record
« Reply #75 on: December 25, 2005, 08:01:14 pm »

mitgong wrote on Fri, 14 October 2005 15:12

SO. It's the difference between liking Fiona Apple or not.  I heard the Elizondo first, and thought:  "she's actually pretty boring, isn't she?".  Then I heard the Jon Brion, and thought:  "She's a fucking genius!".

it's as if she writes tunes and sings them well, but doesn't seem to know who or what she wants in her backing band. the arrangements seem completely up to her producer.  i guess her management does not coach her well; it seems they prefer stick her into the lucky slot machine and pull the lever.

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Re: fiona apple's new record
« Reply #76 on: December 26, 2005, 11:49:27 am »

I'm totally in agreement with everything said here. She's not inspired on the Elizondo tracks. No amount of "straight talk" to Entertainment Weekly, Paste, etc. is going to hide the fact that on the released record, she sounds like she's fronting her own cover band.

BUT!

Get the dual disc of the released version, and you'll get five or so videos of her and Brion at Largo. That's what saved it for me.

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Re: fiona apple's new record
« Reply #77 on: December 26, 2005, 09:45:35 pm »

TheCurmudgeon wrote on Sun, 25 December 2005 16:06

 I know of so many people who have been listening to the original for a long time now, who are baffled as to why it wasn't released.




do any of these people have a 16 bit 44.1 version of the album, sequenced and mastered as it was supposed to be release?

all i have is terrible mp3s
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Re: fiona apple's new record
« Reply #78 on: December 27, 2005, 05:50:34 am »

j.hall wrote on Tue, 27 December 2005 02:45


do any of these people have a 16 bit 44.1 version of the album, sequenced and mastered as it was supposed to be release?

all i have is terrible mp3s


The one I have are mp3's of what sounds like a stereo mic setup in front of a pair of monitors. I would LOVE a "real" copy. Although having said that, again - the MUSIC makes me listen to the crappy copy repeatedly.  

What a funny notion these days.

Maybe someone could up a torrent somewhere of a more direct copy?  Sony shouldn't care, since they apparently feel it wasn't good, right?

What was the real story?  I presume from this thread Brion went over budget, and Sony didn't like it?  Seems weird, making her lose momentum for so long.  Kinda smells like the recent Dave Matthews "new artistic direction".
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Re: fiona apple's new record
« Reply #79 on: January 20, 2006, 04:28:06 am »

i really love fiona apple, i really hate her new record...

haven't heard the first version but I'm going to look for it...
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Re: fiona apple's new record
« Reply #80 on: January 21, 2006, 04:40:39 am »

j.hall wrote on Mon, 26 December 2005 20:45

TheCurmudgeon wrote on Sun, 25 December 2005 16:06

 I know of so many people who have been listening to the original for a long time now, who are baffled as to why it wasn't released.




do any of these people have a 16 bit 44.1 version of the album, sequenced and mastered as it was supposed to be release?

all i have is terrible mp3s



I'd really love a real version too!

I saw her on Jay Leno a couple months ago.  The live peformance was a lot more like the Brion version than the "official" version.  I think Charlie Drayton was playing drums.
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Re: fiona apple's new record
« Reply #81 on: January 22, 2006, 09:26:57 am »

frankly, i find the girl a little irritating, and i only listened to the record to hear whar was left of jon brion's work

to me, it sounds emasculated, if i can use that word

i'd love to hear the original, though

jonh s wrote:

"Yea, he is absolutely the 'second coming' - true genius in an era where that term has been sadly diluted. I've been meaning to order his solo disc "Meaningless""

absolutely brilliant, file it under "must have"
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Re: fiona apple's new record
« Reply #82 on: January 29, 2006, 09:10:15 pm »

maxim wrote on Sun, 22 January 2006 09:26



jonh s wrote:

"Yea, he is absolutely the 'second coming' - true genius in an era where that term has been sadly diluted. I've been meaning to order his solo disc "Meaningless""

absolutely brilliant, file it under "must have"


how does one define genius in today's world of incalculable subsets of musical genre?

This jaded mainstream junkie would love to know.... Smile
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Re: fiona apple's new record
« Reply #83 on: January 29, 2006, 09:58:01 pm »

nick wrote:

"how does one define genius in today's world of incalculable subsets of musical genre?"

best definition i've heard goes as follows:

talent means being able to hit the target others can't

genius means being able to see the target others can't


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Re: fiona apple's new record
« Reply #84 on: January 29, 2006, 11:15:32 pm »

i'll buy that for a dollar Smile

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Re: fiona apple's new record
« Reply #85 on: January 30, 2006, 07:53:51 am »

it's only worth about $0.02
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Re: fiona apple's new record
« Reply #86 on: January 30, 2006, 09:47:41 am »

maxim wrote on Mon, 30 January 2006 06:53

it's only worth about $0.02


for .02 cents i can be a certified genius producer? is ths some sally struthers trade school?
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Re: fiona apple's new record
« Reply #87 on: January 30, 2006, 09:21:12 pm »

j wrote:

"for .02 cents i can be a certified genius producer?"

20 millicents?

you're dreaming

times it by a hundred, and you're in the running
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Re: fiona apple's new record
« Reply #88 on: January 31, 2006, 01:45:45 am »

if twenty girls named Millicent are yours, you MUST be a genius producer.
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