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[masterhse]

Thomas W. Bethel wrote on Mon, 18 July 2005 06:02

Acoustik Musik, Ltd. was suppose to be a play on words. We wanted to limit our mastering to acoustic music (that never happened). I chose the European spelling to give it a more continental fare, if you will. ...

I was just teasing Tom. It's kool ...

[Jason Poff]

How often do you run into the problem of the client not being familiar with your listening space and demanding changes that you know aren't going to work? It would seem  the client probably wouldn't want these changes if he/she were referencing on a system they really knew.

Jason

[Tomas Danko]

Shouldn't that be Akustik, in german? Or rather something like Akustische Musik. Then again, my grammar is always out the window and gone all haywire whenever I write my lyrics in german.


...then again, I'm always rather drunk whenever I write german lyrics.

Cheers,

Der Danko

[dcollins]

Jason Poff wrote on Mon, 18 July 2005 10:26

How often do you run into the problem of the client not being familiar with your listening space and demanding changes that you know aren't going to work? It would seem  the client probably wouldn't want these changes if he/she were referencing on a system they really knew.

Naturally this does happen, but you might remind the client that you work in the room every freaking day, and might know more than they about the monitors.

Diplomatically, of course.

Yet there are also guys that can "get it" to the point of making constructive comments after 16 bars, so there you go...

DC

[Thomas W. Bethel]

Jason Poff wrote on Mon, 18 July 2005 13:26

How often do you run into the problem of the client not being familiar with your listening space and demanding changes that you know aren't going to work? It would seem  the client probably wouldn't want these changes if he/she were referencing on a system they really knew. Jason

That's why I always have the client take the material, after it is mastered and play it on systems they are familiar with before committing to a final "master".

Sometimes however one can find "familiar" monitoring setups that will not do justice to the mastering like the lady I did some work for and she kept insisting that it did not sound good on her car stereo. Well I went out to listen to her car stereo and found that all the tweeters were blown that it rattled like a tin can struck with a stick at 70 Hz and that she had both her bass and treble controls full on. When I pointed this out to her she said but the commercial stuff sounds great.....so I went in a got two "commercial CDs" and we proceeded to listen to it and then to what I had just mastered and low and behold they all sounded the same - BAD. She was so use to listening to the system that she was literally making up the missing parts on the CDs she played back but since mine was something "new" she did not have a frame of reference. She finally agreed that the commerical stuff and the stuff I had mastered sounded the same. Case solved.

[Trillium Sound]

Thomas W. Bethel wrote on Tue, 19 July 2005 05:13

Well I went out to listen to her car stereo and found that all the tweeters were blown that it rattled like a tin can struck with a stick at 70 Hz and that she had both her bass and treble controls full on.

[genericperson]

it's surprising someone paying for pro mastering had such a lame car stereo.

[turtletone]

I have a lame car stereo.

Stock am/fm cass Jeep stereo with a sound bar over my head.

bass and trebble all the way up.

Talk radio sounds awesome on it going 80 with the top down.

At least that's what I remember when I drove it last, 3 months ago.

Not much need for a car in manhattan.

[Bob Olhsson]

I have worse than lame, a factory installed Bose!

It turned out to be a useful enough reference point for excessive boomieness that I've never replaced it.

[turtletone]

Oooh, you have boomieness... I wish I hade anything resembling boom. I get more fart than boom. My car stereo sucks so bad that my grandmother asks me to turn it down even when i'm playing lawrence Welk.

[bblackwood]

genericperson wrote on Wed, 20 July 2005 19:51

it's surprising someone paying for pro mastering had such a lame car stereo.

You really think so?

Is there such thing as a car stereo system that isn't lame? I have a pretty nice rig in my car, but it doesn't hold a candle to a decent system in a room, imo...

[Ronny]

bblackwood wrote on Wed, 27 July 2005 09:35

genericperson wrote on Wed, 20 July 2005 19:51 it's surprising someone paying for pro mastering had such a lame car stereo. You really think so? Is there such thing as a car stereo system that isn't lame? I have a pretty nice rig in my car, but it doesn't hold a candle to a decent system in a room, imo...

No fan of Bose by any means and completely abhor their big wave ear trumpet techological break throughs, but I can think of one advantage, if the master passes the car test on Bose, it'll sound good on just about any system.