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[zetterstroem]

sixtiksix wrote on Fri, 01 July 2005 10:41

Well I guess we could run out of colors.... I think what I see is about 20% or so are you able to count?of Europeans that have a strong opinion about the war...that's cool...that blame everything on their government that was elected and tell me they are helpless to change it. I would submit that the majority support it or don't give a shit and whoever runs Denmark would have to leave office if that were not true. i really expect that to happen at the next election Everytime Bush is talking...hmmm...We'll never agree on that one. ok..... to be fair.... only every second time For the record the Danish people did vote for the war....I was refering to the U.N. voting record. Afterall this is a international forum, so no need to repeat yourself I am attending to your argument and complaints with great attention and will forward anything I deem responsible to higher authorities.... calling "daddy" now are we? So the Arabs were reacting to our policies when they blew up the Trade Center...hmmm...you're right!!! The question is were they right?blowing up 3000 people can NEVER be right..... let me emphasize that! but i can undetstand that they feel a need to react.... i wish they would react differently though... I posed the questions to George about Arabs then and now and who is interacting with whom and why....they interact with the us..... trained and paid with your tax money!but it seems to be easier to shoot from the hip...like a cowboy. So which is George Bush?  Farbricating mastermind that lies and manipulates thousands without their knowledge into wars for profit -or- Monkey? he's a monkey.... or rather a marionette controlled by the manipulators Confused by your argument. I don't know about freedom.  More interesting rhetoric. Perhaps you are right. Let me take a shot. Freedom: Gays, lesbians, pornos, women running companies, voting, total freedom of speech is that why all american tv station beep out 40% of hiphop lyrics??and assembly, dissent of my government, a right to trial by my peers,oh.... yes.... and the chance to be executed after a mistrial movement without permission from the government,if you're a us citizen hmm have to think about that one. you forgot the right to own a gun... In Western Europe there is political censorshipas opposed to wher?? and censorship of song lyrics...purely an american invention.... starting to rub off on europe..... but we can still say FUCK as loudly as we please..... FUCK!.... marilyn can't even say "shit".... I am talking about adults here.  You cannot buy or sing certain songs....I am not talking about the Nazi shit either."nice" avatar by the way.... I run a music studio here in Europe and would submit to you that if think the Europeans have more freedom than Americans just because you can show tits in public I would suggest you are smoking crack.as you may or may not know crack is not big in europe....even at drugs we're better...  The government here is much more restrictive with my ability to make money oops there it is......... "the ability to make money and spend them"to do things like....eat... i'm at 108kg's..... Keep Rockin' To be continued... omg Lemme nough Tik

[George_]

Quote:

i'm at 108kg's

140kg's here.. this is maybe where we should start a new thread about the weigh of Mixers, Technicians, normal people and Masteringeng...

maybe we can print a conclusion, where you can find out because of your body weight if you should better become an ME or a Mixer or whatever;)

forget oil, bodymass counts..

now back to "off"topic

[t(h)ik]

Censorship an American invention....hmmm

We don't have it.

We "try" to protect minors.  Which is why I specified adults...

Better at drugs...you are of course right, I should have said LSD to keep it Eurocentric...

Hey man,  You keep making references to making money.

This is at the heart of the European Socialist illusion.

Nothing is free.

Who is paying for your drunks to sit around in pulbic squares?

How would you have your socialist utopia (and it is) without the Americans footing the bill in blood and CASH to protect you.

Do you really believe that the American culture is really different in that regard.  We have freedom to make whatever the fukk we want out of ourselves.  Europeans do but it's much much harder.  So because we write the play book on makin' the bucks we are somehow remiss?  

I don't understand.

It's OK to appreciate what you have but again, it's just arrogance based on a free ride.

Somebody has to pay for everything, the corn doesn't jump into the kettle, somebody has to harvest it.

Could you please let me know where I am fukked up.

Tik

Sorry, bottom line.  I know you are frustrated but the constant implication from Euros that America is evil is a crock of shit.  Otherwise they would do something because they are the all seeing purveyors of right and wrong....

But what are they doing?  In most cases wishing the world was more like their sheltered garden...

It's not, what are you going to do about that? Take the Mercedes out for a spin?

Those poor Arabs!  VVVAAAAAAAAAAAARRRROOOOOOOOOOOMMMM!!! People from every fukken European nation down the  fukken autobahn at 200K.....Hypocrisy...at it's zenith...

And yes I pay attention...I know you don't drive, the rest of your nation goes past my studio regularly.  But I can't hear them over my wonderful S-3A's  


My point, think before spouting

You ignored my point on love too.

Lemme nough

[zetterstroem]

sixtiksix wrote on Fri, 01 July 2005 11:31

Censorship an American invention....hmmm We don't have it. i ask you again..... why is then that everything is beeped out in american media....??? We "try" to protect minors.  Which is why I specified adults... yes.... you're protecting them from tits and foul language..... and then you let the drive at 16.... have a shotgun at 18..... and "save" them from alcohol until they're 21 ... didn't you ever think that it should be the other way around? Better at drugs...you are of course right, I should have said LSD to keep it Eurocentric... Hey man,  You keep making references to making money. This is at the heart of the European Socialist illusion. european......socialist??? to use your own words..... are you on crack?? ..... europe is rapidly becoming a copy of the us..... althought the people in france and holland already voted against it...... but the european leaders don't give a shit what people think.... the want the toys george have...... Nothing is free. yes healthcare is..... here at least Who is paying for your drunks to sit around in pulbic squares? maybe you know something about that?? being from the us where there are so much more poverty than in denmark! How would you have your socialist utopia (and it is) without the Americans footing the bill in blood and CASH to protect you. i think the world would be a safer place if the us wasn't starting wars all over the palce Do you really believe that the American culture is really different in that regard. yes  We have freedom to make whatever the fukk we want out of ourselves. egoism is the root of your problem  Europeans do but it's much much harder.  So because we write the play book on makin' the bucks we are somehow remiss?   I don't understand. It's OK to appreciate what you have but again, it's just arrogance based on a free ride.free ride?..... are you aware of the kind money you need to earn to have a place to stay? Somebody has to pay for everything, the corn doesn't jump into the kettle, somebody has to harvest it. i know..... that's why we built a system that works...... but now they're rapidly tearing it all apart with their eyes fixed on the us...... although anyone can see that america is completely dysfunctional Could you please let me know where I am fukked up.i don't think you're fukked..... it just seems you're more focused on yourself than what makes a great society Tik Sorry, bottom line.  I know you are frustrated but the constant implication from Euros that America is evil is a crock of shit.  Otherwise they would do something because they are the all seeing purveyors of right and wrong.... But what are they doing?  In most cases wishing the world was more like their sheltered garden... It's not, what are you going to do about that? Take the Mercedes out for a spin? i own a bicycle...... the "free ride" didn't grant me a mercedes Those poor Arabs!  VVVAAAAAAAAAAAARRRROOOOOOOOOOOMMMM!!! People from every fukken European nation down the  fukken autobahn at 200K.....Hypocrisy...at it's zenith... And yes I pay attention...I know you don't drive, the rest of your nation goes past my studio regularly.  But I can't hear them over my wonderful S-3A's   even in speakers you have poor taste My point, think before spoutingi thought about this for years... You ignored my point on love too.was was your point then? Lemme nough

[t(h)ik]

Sorry working right now.

Interesting that you are saying I only think about myself.

Not sure what that means, maybe your argument is being challenged and you are getting desperate?

Your healthcare isn't free...and when you need real doctors you have to fly to the States.

I am in the Euro system, my medical insurance is 300 Euros a month....hello???

But that's not the real cost.  Your system is consumer based like ours and you profit from not having to secure your borders or take care of anything but yourself.  So lecture away on how your system is better....C'mon and take a free ride....

Egoist...hmmm...

You vacillate....excessively....

You were saying the US is all about money..

Did you construct you studio from beeds and hemp?

Gotta run...

You built a better system?

LMAO

Ever hear of the Third Army and the Marshall plan....

You had a great system going...IN FLAMES...congratulations...good plan...til we came over and showed you how to set up non-cannilbalizing Europe...

Long on rhetoric short on history, reality and logic...

What happened to your oil argument?

Your egotistical friend in the Fatherland...


Tik

[zetterstroem]

this is going in circles now.....

forgive me for not wasting any more time on this...

i've made my point and nothing i do or say can change your mind the least...

so byebye




btw.... for your own sake stop calling it fatherland...... alot of germans are really sensitive about nazi "humor"

[t(h)ik]

zetterstroem wrote on Fri, 01 July 2005 20:36

this is going in circles now..... forgive me for not wasting any more time on this... i've made my point and nothing i do or say can change your mind the least... so byebye

I'm sorry you were "wasting your time".

But I really think you managed to prove all of your points without being defensive or withdrawing and by using logical and well conceived dialog.


What I have learned:

It's time someone put us in our place.  Spending all this money and using the world's resources, while everyone else lives in the forest.  When bands (obviously Euros) come to my studio, since I am an American the first thing I have to do is teach them about technology and take the branches out of their hair.

The problems in the Arab world are mainly due to the Americans.  This is so true.  After building the oil industry and educating their children and doing nothing when each country nationalized company property we all went back to the States and suddenly came to the conclusion, "Hell, we could just fly over there and bomb them just like Dresden!"

It is OK for the Arabs to nationalize the oil equipment.  It is not OK for the U.S. to nationalize BMW in South Carolina....that would be wrong....

The world Trade center bombing is because of U.S. Policy.  One day the Americans were sitting around asking themselves where they could steal some oil.  Aha! Arabia!  So they went over there and started bombing.  I know this is true due to thorough research and a keen eye for world events.

We don't care about the rest of the world either.  Europe cares more than we do.  They prove it everyday by posting it on the internet.  And they give more aide to the world than Minnesota and Iowa combined!

The Americans just go around bombing everyone.  That's the only way they know how to solve things.  They probably have plans for bombing Holland.  Europeans send money and troops to fight with the Americans but this is just because they are under the enchantment of an evil monkey, therfore they don't have to defend their actions because Americans are evil. Europeans are really against what the Americans are doing and signing up for NATO and vacationing by the millions in San Francisco is all the evidence you need.

President Bush does not represent the American people.  Everyone knows he is a liar.  The only reason people there don't lynch him is because they blocked off Pennsylvania Avenue and you can't get at him.  You might even get shot and Americans hate getting shot.  You can't find one of them to stand up for their country or what they belive in because they might get shot.  So there's no way to stop Bush from pursuing his eve-ill plans.  Except of course by insulting people at random on the net....

Lemme nough

Tik