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e-cue

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Re: New twist on power cables.
« Reply #30 on: June 25, 2005, 09:33:36 pm »

dcollins wrote on Tue, 21 June 2005 21:48

The 14 rod grounding system alone is impressive!

I only have one...

700 Amps is a lot!

DC


I'd also love to see some pics of this 14 rod system.  

To hear about a setup like this in Florida sounds like.... what's the word I'm looking for?
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Re: New twist on power cables.
« Reply #31 on: June 25, 2005, 09:36:12 pm »

e-cue wrote on Sat, 25 June 2005 18:33



I'd also love to see some pics of this 14 rod system.  

To hear about a setup like this in Florida sounds like.... what's the word I'm looking for?


Impressive?  Expensive?  

Low-Z and Low R?

Florida has plenty of lightning.

Next thing you know, you're on Americas something home videos!

They call it "air terminals" today just to be confusing...

Some point up.

DC

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Re: New twist on power cables.
« Reply #32 on: June 26, 2005, 10:36:47 am »

barefoot wrote on Wed, 22 June 2005 18:59

dcollins wrote on Tue, 21 June 2005 21:48


700 Amps is a lot!

I guess when you're studio is burning 40 kilowatts yah need that other 40 kilowatts to run the A/C! http://www.barefootsound.com/homerecording_images/sweating1.gif Shocked



I have my gear on a separate breaker panel than the AC and building lighting so no problems with those anymore. I have only one 8 foot grounding rod, but I talked to Scott Williams awhile back, he owns Windshear Studios and works for Duke Power in Greenville SC, he said that there was an advantage to using 2 rods over 1 and that I would have been better off installing 2 4 foot rods placing them several feet apart, rather than using one 8 foot one and sinking it deep. I'm not doubting that 14 rods would be ok, but it seems like there would be point of no return somewhere along the line, which would make more rods unnecessary. 14 just seems like overkill.
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Re: New twist on power cables.
« Reply #33 on: June 29, 2005, 06:10:55 am »

This is a sign of the times! AC power's not what it used to be! Mass-production and poor QC rule the roost...

You need excess power to compensate for the bad quality of modern current - in days of yore they had a handpicked team at the power-station inspecting every amp before it left the premises!

written by Ecue


To hear about a setup like this in Florida sounds like.... what's the word I'm looking for?



"Attractive"?

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 OK, fine. But where are the "Twist On Cables" you spoke about? I am tired of plugging in, and I was looking forward to twisting on instead!


Sam Cooke knew this - "plugging the night away" would never have had the same ring to it.


Justin  
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Re: New twist on power cables.
« Reply #34 on: July 05, 2005, 09:10:31 am »

One of the points that enabled your good gear to work under better conditions now is that you have less of the neighbours influencing the cleanliness of your current. Then you have no dimmers and computers (which put some HF back into the circuit)at the same circuit like the gear responsible for the sound. You could add one  or more hi-end-hifi AC filters and get even cleaner current.Also keep analog and digital gear separate. The better your amps, cables and speakers are, the more they can show you what they really can do then. You will hear fine differences like the ones between cables easier now.
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Re: New twist on power cables.
« Reply #35 on: July 05, 2005, 09:17:36 am »

bblackwood wrote on Wed, 22 June 2005 05:24

dcollins wrote on Tue, 21 June 2005 23:48

Level wrote on Tue, 21 June 2005 21:38

PM to you Brad for info..


I've also been considering changing the AC service and would be interested to see what a top-notch installation such as Bill's looks like.  The 14 rod grounding system alone is impressive!

I only have one...

700 Amps is a lot!

Yah, I've been contemplating the same upgrade, which is why I'm interested in seeing Bill's install. He says he's swamped until the weekend of the 4th, so we'll have to wait, but it will be worth it.

Bill, please take shots of the install from different angles, please. I'd love to see the box, the grounding rods - everything you can get a shot of. Will give us good ideas if/when we upgrade out service.

Thanks!


My offer still stands, can't wait to see those pics, Bill. And thanks in advance for sharing!
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Re: New twist on power cables.
« Reply #36 on: July 08, 2005, 10:42:09 am »

bblackwood wrote on Tue, 05 July 2005 10:17


Bill, please take shots of the install from different angles, please. I'd love to see the box, the grounding rods - everything you can get a shot of. Will give us good ideas if/when we upgrade out service.



Still looking forward to seeing these pics.  I'm having the service upgraded here this summer, and I too would like to see your install for ideas, etc.  Thanks!

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Re: New twist on power cables.
« Reply #37 on: July 12, 2005, 05:47:22 am »

JLaPointe wrote on Fri, 08 July 2005 15:42

Still looking forward to seeing these pics.


Me too - sounds like an extraordinary setup. Don't get to see too many of these in the UK!

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Re: New twist on power cables.
« Reply #38 on: July 12, 2005, 09:47:25 am »

dcollins wrote on Sat, 25 June 2005 18:36

e-cue wrote on Sat, 25 June 2005 18:33



I'd also love to see some pics of this 14 rod system.  

To hear about a setup like this in Florida sounds like.... what's the word I'm looking for?


Impressive?  Expensive?  

DC


Close, but you're way off.

Here's a hint:

It begins with "B" and rhymes with "ullshit".



I'm expecting a revisionary statement before I expect photos.
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Re: New twist on power cables.
« Reply #39 on: July 12, 2005, 10:54:46 am »

e-cue wrote on Tue, 12 July 2005 09:47

dcollins wrote on Sat, 25 June 2005 18:36

e-cue wrote on Sat, 25 June 2005 18:33



I'd also love to see some pics of this 14 rod system.  

To hear about a setup like this in Florida sounds like.... what's the word I'm looking for?


Impressive?  Expensive?  

DC


Close, but you're way off.

Here's a hint:

It begins with "B" and rhymes with "ullshit".



ummm, I know of a studio in Long Island, NY that has something like 80 rods in the ground.  I have no further comment.  but things like this do exist.

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Re: New twist on power cables.
« Reply #40 on: July 26, 2005, 08:38:31 pm »

Hey Bill, when can we see those pics? The service entrance alone must be impressive!

I'll be happy to donate a disposable digital camera if needed...
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Re: New twist on power cables.
« Reply #41 on: July 26, 2005, 09:28:36 pm »

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Let me clean up after this beast. My hands are full right now.

It was neither mild nor fun..and it will take a while to get a new roof and that comes first. this is not my priority right now. Customers are.

Sample of the areas damages:

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Look at gallery as well.
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Re: New twist on power cables.
« Reply #42 on: July 26, 2005, 10:17:02 pm »



The only way that I could take a pic of my grounding rod, is to take it out of the ground and it's driven down 8 feet. You'll have your hands full pulling 14 of them out, Bill.  

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Re: New twist on power cables.
« Reply #43 on: July 26, 2005, 10:38:43 pm »

Ronny wrote on Tue, 26 July 2005 19:17


The only way that I could take a pic of my grounding rod, is to take it out of the ground and it's driven down 8 feet. You'll have your hands full pulling 14 of them out, Bill.  



I'm far more interested in the 700A service entrances, and how the 14 rods are inter-connected. As well as how Bill interfaces the 10kW genset.

DC

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Re: New twist on power cables.
« Reply #44 on: July 27, 2005, 12:51:02 am »

dcollins wrote on Tue, 26 July 2005 22:38

Ronny wrote on Tue, 26 July 2005 19:17


The only way that I could take a pic of my grounding rod, is to take it out of the ground and it's driven down 8 feet. You'll have your hands full pulling 14 of them out, Bill.  



I'm far more interested in the 700A service entrances, and how the 14 rods are inter-connected. As well as how Bill interfaces the 10kW genset.

DC




Here's one in action on our newly remodeled mobile recording truck. Notice the autoboring heavy duty grounding rod in the bottom left of picture. Makes it a cinch to resink it at each venue.  
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