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j.hall

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Sans Amp bass driver.
« on: May 23, 2005, 01:46:33 pm »

i've got the rack mount version, the "RBI"

is anyone else using these things on a regular basis?

i can't stop patching mine in, and i'm not just using it on bass guitar.

this is a must have piece of gear, IMO.
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Re: Sans Amp bass driver.
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2005, 02:17:59 pm »

I use mine all of the time as well. Mainly because most of the  bass players I record don't have very good bass amps and  because it makes for a pretty killer di in general but sometimes I run direct guitars and vox for something "different".
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Re: Sans Amp bass driver.
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2005, 09:34:44 pm »

j.hall wrote on Mon, 23 May 2005 18:46


i can't stop patching mine in, and i'm not just using it on bass guitar.



Just curious, what else are you using it on?
I've used mine on vox on this weird Danny Elfman meets Prong kinda project I've got going on, and loved it.
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Re: Sans Amp bass driver.
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2005, 08:04:39 am »

kick drum, floor tom.....organ, piano.....

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Re: Sans Amp bass driver.
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2005, 10:08:48 am »

I've used mine on every recording I've done in my place.  I can't say enough good things about it.  Love it, love it, love it.
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Re: Sans Amp bass driver.
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2005, 01:43:45 pm »

I have one in my live bass rack, just becasue some FOH soundguys cannot be convinced (read as: bribed, threatened, cajoled) to use only the mic on the amp... so the Sans Amp let's me send a DI signal that at least I can shape to sound like ME, with some distortion and tone shaping.

But I only rarely use one in the studio... I almost always get what I want out of the amp.
And it's not something I use on 'other things'.

I WILL say that for whatever reason, in a direct A-B, I think the pedal version Bass Driver DI sounds better than the rack mount RBI.
Although they swear they are the same.

I actually have BOTH in my rack set-up but now the RBI sits there just as a back-up.
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Re: Sans Amp bass driver.
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2005, 08:45:14 am »

if they swear they are the same then they are total retards cause the RBI has a "mid" EQ control, and has extra inputs and outputs.

the extra EQ band alone would account for it sounding differently.
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Re: Sans Amp bass driver.
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2005, 11:45:06 am »

j.hall wrote on Tue, 24 May 2005 07:04

kick drum, floor tom.....organ, piano.....




After hearing all those non guitar uses for a bass DI and also your comments on non-guitar uses for the Little Smokey, I have to say:


Man, you will run anything thru anything to get a tone won't you?!
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Re: Sans Amp bass driver.
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2005, 12:52:49 pm »

floodstage wrote on Wed, 25 May 2005 10:45


Man, you will run anything thru anything to get a tone won't you?!




MUW HA HA HA HA HA

that's why i get hired......that's why we all get hired.  for who we are.

i do things my way, and i bring something unique to the table, just as you do.
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Re: Sans Amp bass driver.
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2005, 08:59:56 pm »

I meant they swear they are the same basic circuit and sound the same when the mid range is set the same...

to me the RBI sounds, ALWAYS, more scoopy and cleaner.
The BDDI sounds fatter, thicker... better.
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Re: Sans Amp bass driver.
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2005, 08:14:30 am »

oh.....i've never placed them side by side.

i wouldn't doubt they are different.
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Re: Sans Amp bass driver.
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2005, 08:37:26 am »

How do they compare to the PSA? I always dug the PSA but haven't really needed one in a while.
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Re: Sans Amp bass driver.
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2005, 10:31:20 am »

PSA is all about guitar and distortion with a few bass presets.

the RBI is a totally different animal.
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Re: Sans Amp bass driver.
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2005, 02:57:52 pm »

We were in the middle af a long arena tour when I got the RBI and aded it (i thought I might make my rack set-up more compact)...
I switched during set-up and, during soundcheck the FOH engineer from WAY back in an arena said "how come the bass soundes different today?"
Which shows he's listening!
Anyway, at that point I told him and we did a quick A-B and he was adamant that the BDDI sounded "better".

So next break I had, I took the rack into Pie Studios, where I could listen for myself and really know what I'm hearing, and we ran both into the Neve and listened.

And there as well, it was clear that the RBI was somehow more hollow and transparent.

So I've really been using the BDDI ever since...

One nice thing about the RBI is that if you use the effected output to feed your amp (I DON'T) then having that separate level control for each output is a big help.
In fact I wish it worked on the parallel out, but it doesn't.

But I use the SansAmp to make the DI sound more like the amp. Not to change the amp's sound in any way. (which, being a Hiwatt, is perfection {g})

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Re: Sans Amp bass driver.
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2005, 12:26:41 pm »

I hate that this thread came up, and has forced me to admit that I, too have and love the Bass Driver DI.  I've used it on many records, both with and without acoustic amps as well.

In fact, almost the whole Lenny Kravitz "5" album ("Fly Away") was done with my Precision and the BDDI as the only bass source.
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