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brandondrury

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Re: Sans Amp bass driver.
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2005, 11:28:40 pm »

In my experience, a killer bass player sounds killer through the Bass Driver DI.  A shitty bass player sounds shitty through a Bass Drive DI pedal.

It's the same damn answer for every piece of gear I have.

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Re: Sans Amp bass driver.
« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2005, 07:20:22 am »

I'm embarrassed that I don't have one. It's been on my "to get" list for a long time though.
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Re: Sans Amp bass driver.
« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2005, 02:07:57 pm »

I want the pedal version..

I've always dug it mucho when it's turned up on sessions.

Or is the rack mount the only way to fly?

Seems a great combo with Music Man Stingray bass!

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Re: Sans Amp bass driver.
« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2005, 02:30:27 pm »

Jules, the pedal is way cool.
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Re: Sans Amp bass driver.
« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2005, 04:37:33 pm »

there's also a new version of the pedal that memorizes a few settings.
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Re: Sans Amp bass driver.
« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2005, 08:41:15 pm »

I've got a chance to pick up either at cost; which one?

I'm leaning towards the splitting ability of the rack.
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Re: Sans Amp bass driver.
« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2005, 10:59:04 pm »

I have only used the pedal, but I think I recall William stating that he preferred the pedal, for some reason, to the rack.  And he is pretty "tuned in" to bass.

Both?
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Re: Sans Amp bass driver.
« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2005, 07:44:55 am »

Any SansAmp I've ever used, rackmount, pedal or plugin all sound great on anything except of coarse guitars.   There is an SVT preset that came with my SansAmp plugin for my ProTools mix system and if I'm using a DI and I throw that on there.   With a little tweaking it always sounds really really great.

Drums, bass sound effects.   I've used the Plugin on vocals a lot too.   SansAmp in general is pretty sweet on all kinds of stuff.

Anyone else use the Plugin version?

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Re: Sans Amp bass driver.
« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2005, 08:44:37 am »

fibes.  the rack mount version is really great.  i think i'd go for the pedal as it seems to be a bit more popular......i think william's "tests" shed a lot of light on this issue as well.

i'll keep my RBI, but i might pick up a pedal to compare it to in the near future.
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Re: Sans Amp bass driver.
« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2005, 06:45:59 am »

TheViking wrote on Mon, 13 June 2005 12:44

Any SansAmp I've ever used, rackmount, pedal or plugin all sound great on anything except of coarse guitars.   There is an SVT preset that came with my SansAmp plugin for my ProTools mix system and if I'm using a DI and I throw that on there.   With a little tweaking it always sounds really really great.

Drums, bass sound effects.   I've used the Plugin on vocals a lot too.   SansAmp in general is pretty sweet on all kinds of stuff.

Anyone else use the Plugin version?

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Re: Sans Amp bass driver.
« Reply #25 on: June 21, 2005, 03:57:15 pm »

Call me perverse, but I have the pedal version hooked up at my home studio as the main DI for guitars/basses/electric piano/etc.  At modest settings it sets an instrument signal up beautifully for interfacing with amp sim plugins etc (a raw guitar signal never cuts it, for me).  As a straight DI (circuit switched out), it doesn't thrill, but that's not what you'd buy one for anyhow.

Lately I've found myself making a lot of 70s-punk-meets-idm-in-a-disco-with-morrissey-on-the-mic music, and playing way too much guitar (I'm a bass player mainly).  I couldn't find a thing out there in plugin land to give me the sound I was looking for.  One night I plugged into the BDDI, maxed out the Drive and tweaked up the presence and suddenly, I'd joined Gang Of Four! Wink

It nails the scritchy, nasty, dance-rocky guitar tone so well it *hurts!*

So, naturally it's first call on that task now, and of course gets a lot of use for bass tones from dub thump to distorted picking.  The "classic" sansamp gets more use on things like vocals, drum overheads, the rhodes, etc, when I really want distortion.  But sometimes there is just too much Tech 21 on a track and I bust out the secret guitar recording weapon..

..my brutally damaged vintage Deluxe Memory Man pedal.  It overloads if you so much as breathe on it- a bad bbd chip sits cooking within it.  I set it to minimum delay, all the way wet, gain maxed, and...  

Wow.  The coolest, most singular distortion tone I've ever heard while DI-ing comes churning out of it.  If you've got a Memory Man in bad repair, try it.  The reissues and old specimens in top shape can't do it, too bad (maybe a line/mic amp placed before it would help, and also help to destroy that bbd chip! Wink

The funny thing is, there is a bit of "latency", as even at minimum delay, you're looking at 80ms or so of slap.  Luckily I've done much time with an Mbox so I know how to deal with that!

Anyway, I've hijacked the thread a bit, just wanted to share that, it's priceless.

I have a PSA, too, and it does a fine job on keys/drums/bass/guitar/etc.  It's still a better "amp sim" than any plugin or digital sim I've tried.  I saw a bit of footage with the RZA from Wu-Tang- the interviewer is talking to him in his hotel room with his then-new production rig.  

The interviewer says, "Hey Riz, where's the SP1200?  What's the deal?" and he says, "Aw dang, I sold that s***, I've just got my K2500 and a SansAmp PSA-1.  I get the same sound. *presses play on keyboard*"..  ..and out comes a very junked, very RZA beat.  I look over at my PSA-1 and smile wide.
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Re: Sans Amp bass driver.
« Reply #26 on: July 04, 2005, 06:45:59 pm »

I used to own the pedal.  I found it to be quite noisey.  I wished it had a hotter output.
The "scooped" midrange tones sounded great on their own but didn't work well in the mix.  The instrument became invisible.
I wanted to love it.
Lately I've been getting some cool bass tones out of my Fender Vibrolux using a C414 on the speaker and an old H&K Red Box as a D.I.  Whatever works I guess.
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Re: Sans Amp bass driver.
« Reply #27 on: August 08, 2005, 09:11:26 am »

just got the rbi.
whew! it gets heavy.

stingray -> rbi -> RNP -> 1176 -> 'puter.

nice.


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Re: Sans Amp bass driver.
« Reply #28 on: August 09, 2005, 12:31:55 am »

I use mine (BDDI)pretty religiously but on occasions some bass's or players really sound average.
Combined with good amp and good player sounds pro. Cool

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Re: Sans Amp bass driver.
« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2005, 02:20:20 pm »

I've had one for years... used to belnd it with a mic'd amp signal. Sucked out a little too much midrange to be used alone. But ever since I got the Fulltone Bass Drive pedal, i haven't touched my Sansamp. The extra midrange is too important to me now. Sansamp adds a killer bottom, but i can get that in other places... sub synth or whatever is around.
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