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matucha

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Re: A cool exersize of skills and opinions.
« Reply #60 on: May 01, 2005, 05:06:15 am »

I lost kik, the body of it... no time to get it in again... Good news is I'm almost 100% mono compatible Wink.

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Re: A cool exersize of skills and opinions.
« Reply #61 on: May 01, 2005, 06:15:53 am »

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Re: A cool exersize of skills and opinions.
« Reply #62 on: May 01, 2005, 10:19:30 am »

Well heck, any of you guys coming to New England in the fall, should come to southern Vermont and stop in for a visit. Bring cameras and time it for leaf-peeping season Smile

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Re: A cool exersize of skills and opinions.
« Reply #63 on: May 01, 2005, 02:29:54 pm »

chrisj wrote on Sun, 01 May 2005 10:19

Well heck, any of you guys coming to New England in the fall, should come to southern Vermont and stop in for a visit. Bring cameras and time it for leaf-peeping season Smile



Used to go to Brattleboro every year to get the hell out of NYC in the summers. Where are you up there??  Liked to take trips up to Hickin's Mountain Mowing farm and get those giant strawberries that were sweet as sugar. Best on the planet bar none! Also that cool swim-hole at the Dummerston Bridge. Gotta get my ass back up there. You live in a beautiful slice of this country, Chris!

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Re: A cool exersize of skills and opinions.
« Reply #64 on: May 01, 2005, 02:59:21 pm »

Bellows Falls- out past Putney. If you're on 91 it'd go Brattleboro-Putney/Dummerston-BF.

If you're in the area, drop me a line and stop by!  Smile

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Re: A cool exersize of skills and opinions.
« Reply #65 on: May 01, 2005, 03:00:53 pm »

If anyone is still interested in the original intent of this thread, I've take a slightly different approach than I've seen discussed so far.

analysis
Using a 200Hz and 4KHz multiband split:
Bass band has phase flipped on one channel, so does high band. You can see this from watching the band selected correlation meter.
Mid band freqs were set around vocals (and synths). Vocals are phase correct, some of the synths are flipped.

strategy used
Split into separate tracks for each band.
Flip polarity on bass R channel, narrow about half way to mono (using M/S).
Leave phase alone on mid channel. This leaves vocals mono compatible, but some of the synths receed in mono. Better than the other way around. Bring left channel toward center a bit to even spread.
Flip polarity on high band R channel. Use a little exciter on high band to brighten and (I think) mask some of the splatter.
Mix three channels to taste.
Final eq and about 2.5dB compression/boost.
All eqs and band splits linear phase.

Comments?




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Re: A cool exersize of skills and opinions.
« Reply #66 on: May 01, 2005, 03:18:14 pm »

schley-may wrote on Sun, 01 May 2005 15:00

If anyone is still interested in the original intent of this thread, I've take a slightly different approach than I've seen discussed so far.

analysis
Using a 200Hz and 4KHz multiband split:
Bass band has phase flipped on one channel, so does high band. You can see this from watching the band selected correlation meter.
Mid band freqs were set around vocals (and synths). Vocals are phase correct, some of the synths are flipped.

strategy used
Split into separate tracks for each band.
Flip polarity on bass R channel, narrow about half way to mono (using M/S).
Leave phase alone on mid channel. This leaves vocals mono compatible, but some of the synths receed in mono. Better than the other way around. Bring left channel toward center a bit to even spread.
Flip polarity on high band R channel. Use a little exciter on high band to brighten and (I think) mask some of the splatter.
Mix three channels to taste.
Final eq and about 2.5dB compression/boost.
All eqs and band splits linear phase.

Comments?

Hey Jim, I am very much still interested in how one approaches tailoring this "maladjusted suit" to sound/fit it's best. I like what you have done here, and I appreciate you demonstrating some of your techniques as well. Cool approach.

Lee







Hey Jim, I am very much still interested in how one approaches tailoring this "maladjusted suit" to sound/fit it's best. I like what you have done here, and I appreciate you demonstrating some of your techniques as well. Cool approach.

Lee
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Re: A cool exersize of skills and opinions.
« Reply #67 on: May 01, 2005, 03:37:25 pm »

chrisj wrote on Sun, 01 May 2005 14:59

Bellows Falls- out past Putney. If you're on 91 it'd go Brattleboro-Putney/Dummerston-BF.

If you're in the area, drop me a line and stop by!  Smile


Big 10-4 there, Chris. Thanks!


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Re: A cool exersize of skills and opinions.
« Reply #68 on: May 02, 2005, 02:08:33 am »

Jim Schley-May > analysis and technique... almost the same as I used, maybe that's the only way Wink, however I split it only in 2 bands.

You raised the voc, that's nice, but I don't like the tradeoff - drums. And... you've lost the (low of the) kick too.

However your ex. doesn't suffer any big phase cancelations in mono as the rest of the examples posted here.



Other listenable examples IMO:
CJStayFarField (collapses in mono)
AJC Stay 01 (collapses in mono)
Stay OTR (collapses in mono)
BR Stay (bass ok in mono, but the rest becomes muddy in mono)
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Re: A cool exersize of skills and opinions.
« Reply #69 on: May 03, 2005, 03:25:53 am »

Gee how I'd like to hear DC Brad et al have a go at this..


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Re: A cool exersize of skills and opinions.
« Reply #70 on: May 03, 2005, 06:42:57 am »

me too... because I'm no pro mastering engineer...
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