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[chrisj]

Thanks to Brad for supplying the server space to host this:

[links removed due to bandwidth usage]

Bill, if you would download [links removed due to bandwidth usage] it is an excerpt from the CD.

I'd like to say that anyone who feels they can restore quality, especially dynamics, to this track should participate, provided they can do something to explain what it is they did.

Please contact Brad or myself for upload information if you have something to contribute.

I've started it off with examples of the two components of my expansion software, an exaggerated version, and a version that is the best that I could do yesterday. I'm also wanting to upload an uncompressed version but before that, I want to implement a type of dithering to my 'remap' code, because I think there are some situations where it's called for.

[Level]

Got a gig tonight..I will grab it tomorrow or late tonight.

Savoy Brown. Kim should sound great. Got to go set-up now..

[hollis]

Forgive me for my ignorance, but I'm a little confused, is this source material?

You're going to remaster from a 16 bit mastered, limited track?

[Ed Littman]

I've got one to upload...let me know where.
Ed

[chrisj]

hollis wrote on Wed, 16 March 2005 15:14

You're going to remaster from a 16 bit mastered, limited track?

Limited is a terrible understatement

The idea is, Vida Loca is well known to be smashed to the point of obliterated. Can you get a dynamic track, as if unsmashed, out of it? Or is that impossible? If you get a dynamic track, is it the original or is it an additional layer of distortion?

[Norwood]

I don't usually work with "meastering" type situations, but I'll take a stab at this.  I've got a couple ideas.  Any deadline?

[Brendan Thompson]

LMFBO. Someone get Charles over here...

[chrisj]

I can't speak for anyone else, but I thought Vida Loca was an interesting experiment and more dynamics information is buried in in than you think. The last ten seconds (of the song) ARE a bit scarey, though

Charles Dye has already apologized for 'setting the bar' with Vida Loca and causing many mix and mastering engineers to have to cut crazy loud. I'd love to see him in this thread- hell, who would know better what the original sounds of the various tracks were? If he was generous enough to audition people's entries with an eye to what sounded like his experience of the original tracks, it would be a real help.

Deadline? I'm sure Brad will want his server space back at some point. Short of that I don't know. Maybe we can have this thread be sticky

[Level]

Concert was damned killer, Brother Kim did some shit Eric Clapton would have loved to be an audience of....

Serious great show.

[Ed Littman]

chrisj wrote on Wed, 16 March 2005 23:06

If you get a dynamic track, is it the original or is it an additional layer of distortion?

It will never be the original...so I guess it's distortion.
i applaud you for challenging ME's to think the other way.
Ed

[bblackwood]

Anyone interested in trying out their hand, contact chrisj for download information and contact me for upload info (so I can move it to the public directory)...

[chrisj]

Hans from Vienna writes me:

Quote:

Hi Chris, I am lurking at PSW and took an experiment in your restoration game http://members.chello.at/hmp_web/LaVidaSOURCE_TR3.mp3 (You may tell it everyone at PSW who you like I did not care much for the distortion, because it is so deep inside everywhere. But watch the "s" and the brass, also the flow and the kick-in after the stop. The goal was to make something that could be sold, and it should sound cool to the kids in a club. The other approaches are pumping too much, and Bill Roberts was excellent with the distortion, but now it sounds like paled by a denoiser. I wanted it to sound less smashed and more "biting" and dancing. Competing to all the modern Brandy and Gwen Stefani stuff, which the old version certainly was not. EQ is essential, for instance to EQ around the distortion, and to balance the frequency dependent dynamic impact of the processing. I think thats a "reality" approach, for an audiophile one, we need a totally different source.

[Level]

Ok, finished. (first step anyway) Tell me where to upload. it is aiff file of 16.8 megs or I can mp3 it.

(Edit, I changed it to .wav)


The cymbal crash that lasts a nano second could not be restored, however, I have dynamics. Buckets full.

I could have added a real cymbal crash if it were up to me.

[Level]

It is uploaded.

PS, I got to fly out for a gig tonight so I will not be back until sometime in the Morning tomorrow.

I will redo it tomorrow because it is way way too bright..this is pre emphesis which is step one.

3 more steps..

Bright! Bright!!!

Do expound on it.

[bblackwood]

Reminder - here are the files: [links removed due to bandwidth usage]