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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2005, 09:12:15 PM »
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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2005, 09:55:18 PM »
If you have tweeters to the inside without any toe-in or fancy crossover delay trickery, you will have a particular kind of physical time-unalignment, the opposite of geometries like the Dunlavys or Lipinskis. The tweeters will be closer to your ear than the woofers, and their sounds will be more out-front and uninterfered with by lower frequencies- even if the actual mix has them interfered with. I can produce this effect with a group delay control on an EQ of mine that lets me slide the 'tap' for the FIR moving-average filter around... slide the highest band forward a bit and the sparkly stuff comes off the surface of the sound and more forward at you.
I wouldn't want my speakers doing that too- it would get confusing- but if you're not actually fooling with group delay for sound effects it's not such a big deal. Again- if it sounds great to you, go from there.
One thing about tweeter-center with no toe-in is that the lower frequency drivers can't beam at your ear- irregularities in response will go straight out into the room and you're listening quite off-axis to everything. If the drivers beam, you might be getting a more accurate sound without toe-in.
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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2005, 10:04:27 PM »
Many thanks guys. Very informative!
Very off topic now.. Monitor Ones passive MK2 are much better than their original formula and than their self powered version.
Now.. would someone explain to me what is toe-in? I could not find a proper translation for this term, besides the basic "location", "finger/toe" meanings.
Thanks again
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« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2005, 10:22:54 PM »
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« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2005, 12:10:31 AM »
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Noting the music industry's complaints that illegal downloading means people are getting their music for free, he said, "Well, why not? It ain't worth nothing anyway." (b.dylan)
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2005, 04:48:00 PM »
many thanks, bud.
Intersting.. someone mentioned I should separate the monitors a little bit more. So the perfect equilateral triangle idea must be abandoned?
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« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2005, 07:00:30 PM »
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« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2005, 12:58:17 AM »
Al
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Noting the music industry's complaints that illegal downloading means people are getting their music for free, he said, "Well, why not? It ain't worth nothing anyway." (b.dylan)
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2005, 08:38:57 AM »
FWIW, there's no rule about speaker placement - do what sounds good. Some speakers sound better toed-in, some don't...
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« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2005, 02:40:29 PM »
certainly no rules..... but maybe rules of thumb
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Noting the music industry's complaints that illegal downloading means people are getting their music for free, he said, "Well, why not? It ain't worth nothing anyway." (b.dylan)
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2005, 10:12:49 PM »
Agreed! I fact what I have concluded now with just one week mixing and mastering with this new topology is that it seems I'm taking my eq/panning decisions faster. I would really love to post some stuff of mine and see you gurus criticize the stuff, ranging from classical to hard rock. Nice friday
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