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Joe Giannone

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How the heck did you do this, Terry?
« on: February 27, 2005, 12:12:32 am »

Alright, while I have no direct evidence linking you with this bit of engineering wizardry, I have my suspicions  Very Happy
Engineering brilliance or just a bunch of hooey?
The link of mystery...
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/stairway.php
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Re: How the heck did you do this, Terry?
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2005, 01:38:37 am »

I discovered that when 13 ... 22 years ago.  I've played that backwards for people and freaked them out.  BTW, Andy Johns did that record, not Terry.
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Re: How the heck did you do this, Terry?
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2005, 02:06:35 am »

That's crazy.

All that Occult stuff Jimmy was into..it's no wonder.
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Re: How the heck did you do this, Terry?
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2005, 04:20:55 am »

Thats pretty funny..
FWIW I find the regular 'forward' version more of a possible 'Satanic message'...whatever it is they're trying to say..(!)..
What is a spring cleaning for the May Queen ?
Could it be NATAS?
Do you think Planty was clever enough to come up with lyrics that kind of make sense in one direction but NO sense backwards (IMO), but does contain something sounding like 'Satan'....?
I'm not so sure..
an accidental combination of sounds or the work of the hand of Satan on his musical puppets?
Or.. was it the mudshark?
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Re: How the heck did you do this, Terry?
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2005, 04:27:29 am »

Just out of curiousity does anyone know if people have discovered other strange and mysterious messages whilst playing music backwards, say Christian contemporary, Frank Sinatra, Doris Day, Celine Dion etc..

I'm wondering how often strange stuff shows up backwards, just as a random consequence of sounds..
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Re: How the heck did you do this, Terry?
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2005, 05:03:36 am »

CRANBERRY SAUCE !!!

...here we go again.....

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Re: How the heck did you do this, Terry?
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2005, 06:20:52 am »

I'm telling you, this dance, the Mud Shark, is sweeping the ocean.
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Re: How the heck did you do this, Terry?
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2005, 08:47:04 am »

Well one thing's for sure  -- they don't get much credit for understanding the lyrics in the "forward" version.  The word is "sprinkling" not spring clean.  The idea being that if there's a bustle (what women wore at one time) in your hedge row, then two people are having sex there and one shouldn't be upset -- just consider it as what people do in spring time.

The lyric is pretty interesting backwards and makes some degree of sense, BUT!  If people can't figure out the lyrics when they are "forward" then who the hell cares what it says backwards?  No one I know listens backwards.  In fact, many people couldn't even tell you what their favorite song was about "forwards" or not.

Just be inspired by Elton John's "Tiny Dancer"  and "count the 'head lice' on the highway."

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Re: How the heck did you do this, Terry?
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2005, 12:50:38 pm »

"And there's a whino down the road...""
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"The negative aspects of this business, not only will continue to prevail, but will continue to accelerate in madness. Conditions aren't going to get better, because the economics of rock and roll are getting closer and closer to the economics of Big Business America." - Bill Graham

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Re: How the heck did you do this, Terry?
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2005, 03:36:55 pm »

Oh my God, here it all comes again...

First, I wasn't directly involved in the (released) recording of "Stairway," but I can assure you that there was NO intent for anything to sound like it was "saying anything backwards."

The whole backwards thing I have always found to be totally ridiculous.  Here are some websites which give "information" about it:

http://www.reversespeech.com/music_reversals.htm

http://www.wootang.net/backmask/classicrock.html

http://skepdic.com/backward.html

http://skepdic.com/backmess.html

Here, there are "Satanic Messages" supplied by everyone from Britney Spears to Mary Poppins!

In fact, it has become a whole "backmasking" industry, and actually provides a living for a few people!

When I first noticed that some Beatles recordings had backwards sounds on them, I decided to experiment with the whole thing.  I thought someone was saying (forgive me for this!) "Paul's a Queer" on "Yellow Submarine" (now I think it was probably  "All's clear," or something more appropriate to the meaning of the song, but hey, it was a long time ago!)  I thought that this "saying" might have been performed in a backwards manner.  So, for some strange reason, I recorded that same saying forwards, turned that around backwards, and worked a long time learning phonetically, and as "correctly" as possible, to say the backwards sounds FORWARDS.  In other words, I was soon speaking "backwards."  Then I recorded that backwards speech, and turned THAT recording around to play in reverse.  The result was the saying "Paul's a Queer" being phonetically rendered forwards, but with an out-of-this-worldly, almost mutant sounding speech pattern.  ("Ray-oook'---nyeh-sssssslop'" for those who want to learn this august phrase in 'backwards-speak.')  All that this experiment showed was that I was not to be trusted with any spare time.

On another occasion, years later, I was producing a band which was somewhat heavy, and we had an instrumental track which was almost demonic sounding, musically.  So for fun, I recorded the lead singer speaking phrases like "Eat all your vegetables!" and "Don't forget to brush your teeth!" and other excellent, non-Satanic things.  We turned those around backwards, and put them loudly throughout the song.  No one at the label, at radio, or from any Christian tolerance group ever said a word!  But it sure sounded "Satanic!"


I think it may be the mud shark...

Terry
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Re: How the heck did you do this, Terry?
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2005, 04:33:52 pm »

I remember when I was a kid hearing on WMET in Chicago that somebody had discovered a backwards hidden message on The Wall.  I googled it and sure enough found it.  At the end of Goodbye Blue Sky", if you reverse it, it says, "Congratulations. You have just discovered the secret message. Please send your answer to Old Pink, care of the Funny Farm".

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Re: How the heck did you do this, Terry?
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2005, 08:51:27 pm »

compasspnt wrote on Sun, 27 February 2005 14:36

Oh my God, here it all comes again...

First, I wasn't directly involved in the (released) recording of "Stairway," but I can assure you that there was NO intent for anything to sound like it was "saying anything backwards."

The whole backwards thing I have always found to be totally ridiculous.  Here are some websites which give "information" about it:

http://www.reversespeech.com/music_reversals.htm

http://www.wootang.net/backmask/classicrock.html

http://skepdic.com/backward.html

http://skepdic.com/backmess.html

Here, there are "Satanic Messages" supplied by everyone from Britney Spears to Mary Poppins!

In fact, it has become a whole "backmasking" industry, and actually provides a living for a few people!

When I first noticed that some Beatles recordings had backwards sounds on them, I decided to experiment with the whole thing.  I thought someone was saying (forgive me for this!) "Paul's a Queer" on "Yellow Submarine" (now I think it was probably  "All's clear," or something more appropriate to the meaning of the song, but hey, it was a long time ago!)  I thought that this "saying" might have been performed in a backwards manner.  So, for some strange reason, I recorded that same saying forwards, turned that around backwards, and worked a long time learning phonetically, and as "correctly" as possible, to say the backwards sounds FORWARDS.  In other words, I was soon speaking "backwards."  Then I recorded that backwards speech, and turned THAT recording around to play in reverse.  The result was the saying "Paul's a Queer" being phonetically rendered forwards, but with an out-of-this-worldly, almost mutant sounding speech pattern.  ("Ray-oook'---nyeh-sssssslop'" for those who want to learn this august phrase in 'backwards-speak.')  All that this experiment showed was that I was not to be trusted with any spare time.

On another occasion, years later, I was producing a band which was somewhat heavy, and we had an instrumental track which was almost demonic sounding, musically.  So for fun, I recorded the lead singer speaking phrases like "Eat all your vegetables!" and "Don't forget to brush your teeth!" and other excellent, non-Satanic things.  We turned those around backwards, and put them loudly throughout the song.  No one at the label, at radio, or from any Christian tolerance group ever said a word!  But it sure sounded "Satanic!"


I think it may be the mud shark...

Terry



Great story!!

Here's another site that tries to explain backwards masking techniques and their use in popular music:

http://www.triplo.com/ev/reversal/


I remember a TV show several years back in which some new-age "doctor" was claiming that we all use backwards speech daily in normal conversations which indicate what we "really" feel rather than what we might be saying verbally in "non-reversed" speech. So, according to him, we're all subconsciously using backwards masking at all times in all forms of verbal and audable communication forms... yup. Rolling Eyes

(record that, reverse it, listen to it, and you'll know what I feel about that bunch of bannas!) Smile

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Re: How the heck did you do this, Terry?
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2005, 10:14:37 pm »

mr. moon wrote on Sun, 27 February 2005 20:51

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...Great story!!

Here's another site that tries to explain backwards masking techniques and their use in popular music:

http://www.triplo.com/ev/reversal/


Great  site!  Total riduculousness!

Quote:

...So, according to him, we're all subconsciously using backwards masking at all times in all forms of verbal and audable communication forms... yup....


One other thing I find funny is that they will almost always print out "the words" for you, so that you can read them as you hear the backwards stuff...that makes it A LOT easier to tell what they're "saying," doesn't it!!!
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Re: How the heck did you do this, Terry?
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2005, 10:38:06 pm »

Ryan Moore wrote on Sun, 27 February 2005 20:20


FWIW I find the regular 'forward' version more of a possible 'Satanic message'...


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Re: How the heck did you do this, Terry?
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2005, 08:26:41 am »

Barry Hufker wrote on Sun, 27 February 2005 14:47

Well one thing's for sure  -- they don't get much credit for understanding the lyrics in the "forward" version.  The word is "sprinkling" not spring clean.  The idea being that if there's a bustle (what women wore at one time) in your hedge row, then two people are having sex there and one shouldn't be upset -- just consider it as what people do in spring time.

The lyric is pretty interesting backwards and makes some degree of sense, BUT!  If people can't figure out the lyrics when they are "forward" then who the hell cares what it says backwards?  No one I know listens backwards.  In fact, many people couldn't even tell you what their favorite song was about "forwards" or not.

Just be inspired by Elton John's "Tiny Dancer"  and "count the 'head lice' on the highway."

Barry


you're kidding, right..?

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