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Re: STRANGE, OTHER-WORLDLY GEAR
« Reply #60 on: February 27, 2005, 05:21:16 PM »

compasspnt wrote on Mon, 14 February 2005 00:00

neve1073 wrote on Sun, 13 February 2005 17:28

for some strange other-worldy gear you must check these people out:

http://www.crammed.be/craworld/crw27/e/index.htm


Sorry, not "different" enough.  Everybody's recorded a group like this...


I missed this the 1st time round..

Wow - pretty crazy jams..love all the distortion and the wooden mic!

That mixing desk looks interesting - maybe DAW people could try that as a summing device to get some of the 'wood' sound in their mix...

I hear vintage wood sounds best.  

I assume Terry's comment is tongue in cheek..

Or - was it the mudshark?
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Re: STRANGE, OTHER-WORLDLY GEAR
« Reply #61 on: February 27, 2005, 06:19:09 PM »

Ryan Moore wrote on Sun, 27 February 2005 17:21

 

....I assume Terry's comment is tongue in cheek..

Or - was it the mudshark?


Ryan,

Turn my original comment around backwards, and you will get the REAL  message!

(redrum, krahsdum, redrum, krahsdum,......)
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Re: STRANGE, OTHER-WORLDLY GEAR
« Reply #62 on: February 28, 2005, 08:37:46 PM »

compasspnt wrote on Sun, 13 February 2005 00:12


That reminded me of another of my favourites, The Great British Spring reverb.  I have two of them.  They are about 4 feet long, made of gray PVC tubing, and have four long springs inside each.  Sound great on guitars, vocals, keys, lots of things, except for percussion/drums ("boing!")


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4 1415&item=7304270832&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Is that something similar?  I found some other online resources too:

http://electronics.audiopervert.com/micmix_index.htm
http://home.sprynet.com/%7Esregdorb/micmix.htm

Anyone have experience with these?
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Re: STRANGE, OTHER-WORLDLY GEAR
« Reply #63 on: March 02, 2005, 08:17:22 AM »

A couple of odd ball items- one is a TOY Chest limiter- from the 70s, Don't know anything about it's "provenance". just a threshold, and an out put knob- goes from " not doing anything" to " squishmaster 7000" in the barest turn of the threshold. Only for those special occasions.

A colorsound ringmodulator, actually a footpedal, squealing oddness is us, again, only for sacrificing virgins at the alter.

J



BTW, I'll post some stuff that may be of interest  in "for sale" section of the marsh
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Re: STRANGE, OTHER-WORLDLY GEAR
« Reply #64 on: March 02, 2005, 08:36:32 AM »

Hmmn, thought of another- not strange, as much as rare. A rack of 4 melchor eqs. two band with swithable freqs. lows were something like 40-80 160 and 320, and the "highs" were somthing like  400, 800, 1600, and 2400. My all time favorite kick and bass eqs. run a precision through the melchor and an la2 and it just locked in. haven't seen them for years.
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Re: STRANGE, OTHER-WORLDLY GEAR
« Reply #65 on: March 04, 2005, 03:48:19 PM »

Would someone mind going on about John Stephens gear for a while, or just posting a link to a website? I've tried looking for information about his tape machines and the company history, but can't seem to find too much.

Thanks guys,
Jason

P.S. Does anyone have a picture of one of his machines? I hear the tape handling is a quite a sight.
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Re: STRANGE, OTHER-WORLDLY GEAR
« Reply #66 on: March 04, 2005, 04:02:36 PM »

Fenris wrote on Thu, 03 March 2005 17:37

John McEntire wrote on Fri, 25 February 2005 09:54

Maybe not so other-worldly, but the ITA (aka Wilkinson) LA-1B is a fantastic 6386 vari-mu comp/limiter. Anyone else have experience with this beast?
Extremely rare. Sylvia Massey has one. Check http://www.radiostarstudios.com/

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BUT LOOK!  In the photo, racked under the ITA, there's a BELLARI!
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Re: STRANGE, OTHER-WORLDLY GEAR
« Reply #67 on: March 04, 2005, 04:20:32 PM »

meverylame wrote on Fri, 04 March 2005 15:48

Would someone mind going on about John Stephens gear for a while, or just posting a link to a website? I've tried looking for information about his tape machines and the company history, but can't seem to find too much.

Thanks guys,
Jason

P.S. Does anyone have a picture of one of his machines? I hear the tape handling is a quite a sight.


The ones I have used all sounded great...these were 24 on 2" and 32 on 2" (I think).  They definitely made a 40 track 2" machine.  I think he made a 12 track 2"...if so, that would have sounded KILLER!  Maybe something here:  (See Chronology.pdf Attachment below.)

Terry


Now, here's a comment by Dave McNair (mcsnare) taken from a MARSH forum:


"...I have used almost EVERY model of 2" machine made. I did a jazz/fusion session one time at this funky studio in NYC that had 2 Telefunken multi-tracks. Damn things looked silly and sounded KILLER and that was at my accidentally wrong level of +9 on Ampex 456, ooops LOL. Anyway... There is quite a bit of sonic/operational differences even between different models within a basic family. e.g. an MCI JH 116 sounds very different from a JH 24, an A-80 mk III sounds VERY different from a MK IV, and so on. I'm talking like WAY more different than 888's vs AD-8000. I'm talking U47fet vs. a tube U47.
A few small disagreements: A Stephens punches in and out fine, but the whole mechanism is so clunky, it just freaks you out.
I think of M79's as very diff from M56's but both are VERY colored in a super cool way. Almost tube-like top end, so harmonically sweet, and a HUGE low end kick, especially M56's. To make things more complicated, stock M79's sound very diff from modded M79's of which almost any you will find these days are usually pretty modded. I owned a highly modded M79 and another one that was almost stock. They both sounded killer. I used to use a very modded M79 1/2" that was unbelievably good.
Ampex MM100 total headroom-less dirt balls. MM1100 I only used one and that was with dbx! I guess it was ok. MM1200, not a huge fan of these, but some people love their RnR crunch.
The Ampex ATR 124 is overall the best machine ever made, hands down. I had 3 locked together at OceanWay, once. The first time I ever heard one it was like "That sounds better than input!....Where is the fucking hiss? and we're only at +3...incredible!" Maintenance is pretty Satanic and the punch in/out takes getting used to, but they sound so fucking good you'll scream. BUT the Stephens has something VERY magical about the sound. I think I've used 4 different Stephens and each one was the bomb. I also have had some long conversations with John Stephens and the machine bears absolutely no resemblance, design wise, to any other tape machine circuit. A very unique machine that was the product of some seriously brilliant original thinking. The super tight, deep low end AND very high S/N ratio of an ATR 124 and the silky, silvery top kinda like a really good M79. My personal favorite sounding machine.
I think of Studer 827's to be much better sounding than the 820's which I always considered to be very bland. Except for the 820 1/2" which I always thought sounded great, well almost no sonic signiture at all. A80's record much better than they play back, but the punching is totally unusable. A shame cause the MK III's sound really good, if a bit noisy. A800's in general sound pretty smooth, too smooth if ya ask me, but clean and quiet with a deep but undefined low end. I have heard them hot rodded to sound snappier. I wouldn't cry if I had to use one, but I'd rather have an 827....
Many models of Scully totally rock sound-wise, but that transport sucked BIG TIME.
I always liked Otari MX-80's in a little-engine-that-could kinda way. Not very big on the bottom, but a nice extended top end. MTR-90's sound like a cheap Onkyo receiver, compared to some McIntosh separate components.
What to buy used in 2004? For my money, best combo of sound/operation/ability to fix it and get parts/going price .....would be the JH24, late model if possible. Flawless punch in/out. A clean JH24 with 16 trk heads sounds incredible.
Writing this really makes me miss tape....I don't think any body's gonna miss the "vintage" sound of Pro Tools III with an 882.. LMFBO

Dave McNair"
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Re: STRANGE, OTHER-WORLDLY GEAR
« Reply #68 on: March 05, 2005, 06:44:51 AM »

Not that I've used one (I was offered one as a trade a while back), but whilst we're on the subject of oddball gear has anyone used a Cady Multi-track?

Google only gets me one Cady hit, an interview with the excellent Vic Keary: http://www.unityaudio.co.uk/thermionic_culture_site/mr_therm ionic.htm

Taken from link:
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" I've also got a Cady 1 track machine which was made by a guy called Steve Wadey about twenty years ago. It's a peculiar design in that the record electronics are valve, while the reply and motor amps are transistor and sound bloody awful. I'm in the process of replacing all the transistor circuitry with valves means that it will soon be possible to record here without touching a transistor anywhere between the microphones and tape."



I believe the model my associate has is a 16-track 2", and apparently Tim de Paravincini is a fan of them and can retro-fit the electronics.

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Re: STRANGE, OTHER-WORLDLY GEAR
« Reply #69 on: March 05, 2005, 12:42:38 PM »

Thanks Terry for the info. I've come across the AES thing before, and intend on ordering it if they still make it, but I'm really interested in his transport design. A capstanless transport seems like something worth seeing.
Thanks,
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Re: STRANGE, OTHER-WORLDLY GEAR
« Reply #70 on: March 06, 2005, 05:52:22 AM »

Fenris wrote on Thu, 03 March 2005 23:37

 Extremely rare. Sylvia Massey has one. Check http://www.radiostarstudios.com/

The ITA LA-1A and LA-1B (vari-mu) are completely unrelated to the Teletronix LA-1 (opto).


OK - thanks, wow looks neat..Nice looking bunch of stuff at that studio,
What a collection
I also thought it was strange seeing that Bellari in the racks! Smile
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« Reply #71 on: March 06, 2005, 09:14:43 AM »

I have a wonderful client who's been bringing me the most amazing obscure, vintage gear for the last couple of years.  I wish I'd taken more photos!  Right now we're going through half of a Helios console that supposedly belonged to the Who, and sitting on the shelf are two Klein & Hummel tube EQ's, massive beasts that by comparison, make a Pultec look positively anemic.  Photos to follow at a later date.

Last year we serviced a Movement drum machine / sampler for him.  The thing was dead and in pieces but a very talented shop tech managed to get it working like new with no documentation.  It had a built in CRT monitor and a lot of strange connections and menus, many of which we never figured out.  The story seems to be that Eurythmics used one on Sweet Dreams, so after Greg got it running I bought the song on iTunes, he figured out how to replicate the drum machine chorus and played along.  It was great fun.  The Movement is definitely strange and other-worldly, here's a photo.  Anyone know more about this thing?
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Re: STRANGE, OTHER-WORLDLY GEAR
« Reply #72 on: March 06, 2005, 10:19:45 AM »

That Movement machine is straight out of a Gerry Anderson production! Thanks for letting us know.

BTW, If you need a schem for the UE100 monster EQ drop me a pm. They are impressive beasts!

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Re: STRANGE, OTHER-WORLDLY GEAR
« Reply #73 on: March 06, 2005, 12:06:17 PM »

Maybe I missed it, but has no one mentioned the EMT 250 or 251 on this thread???  Most old timers will remember these but for you young lads, this was one of the first digital reverbs.  As you might imagine, the 250 caused quite a stir when introduced in 1976 for a mere $20,000.  Plus freight.

A while back we had three of these in the shop -- an obvious photo opportunity -- so Greg took some high res digital shots.  The unit on the left is the original 250, the two on the right are 251's.  Forum member J.J. ended up buying the one with the big wheels.

There's an article on my website with much more info about these, for anyone who's interested.  http://studioelectronics.biz/recentprojects.html

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Re: STRANGE, OTHER-WORLDLY GEAR
« Reply #74 on: March 06, 2005, 12:10:06 PM »

Maybe we should do an other worldly-gear calendar?  No rude comments boys, this is my WIFE!

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