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[henchman]

I'm just sick and tired of hearing Part-Time/Hobbyists making comments on an industry they've never actually worked in.
They have no valid point of view whatsoever.

[drew]

henchman wrote on Tue, 01 February 2005 15:41

I'm just sick and tired of hearing Part-Time/Hobbyists making comments on an industry they've never actually worked in. They have no valid point of view whatsoever.

yea, like when guys who work on movie soundtracks try to act like they know something about making records.







couldn't resist.

[henchman]

drew wrote on Tue, 01 February 2005 16:52

yea, like when guys who work on movie soundtracks try to act like they know something about making records. couldn't resist.

Except that I have made records for a living.
And I have been making a living from working in Studio's both music and Post, going on almost 20 years now.


And I STILL do music. Except budget is not a deciding factor for me to work on something, but wether I like the Artist AND the music.

[Level]

Hench, who are you pointing out here?? Do you know that person?

I agree we have some armchair "engineers" posing but really, was their a point to it? Someome you want to call a dumbass publically?

[henchman]

Level wrote on Tue, 01 February 2005 17:03

Hench, who are you pointing out here?? Do you know that person? I agree we have some armchair "engineers" posing but really, was their a point to it? Someome you want to call a dumbass publically?

No. I am not going to finger anyone specifically.

If the shoe fits, so to speak.

[Level]

I got cha. The bottom line is this business changes every 2 to 3 months and those who can read it and fit the vibe of the moment, is in.

Like a football game, if you don't have pass receivers down field, you have nowhere to throw the ball. (distribution)

When I am working with a new client, I ask them if they have their offensive receivers in place with a clear path...if I become involved to the point of helping them get in stores. Sometimes it is good to see what is planned after they leave.

(reference, Clients I develop, not mastering jobs)

[ted nightshade]

henchman wrote on Tue, 01 February 2005 12:41

I'm just sick and tired of hearing Part-Time/Hobbyists making comments on an industry they've never actually worked in. They have no valid point of view whatsoever.

Does the lay person have a point of view? The artist? The fan? I'm thinking so.

From clear out here where I can't tell what the fluck is going on, seems like the bigtime product is gettin' pretty thin. It's been really good before though, and now and then you can find something satisfying.

If nothing else, I'm one of the slobs who would be paying to do my little vanity project in such a palace, if such a palace can stay open long enough for me to get wise.

Took me a while but I figured out that the acoustic environment has everything to do with the potential of a performance. And that's it's awful hard to tell what you're listening to if the acoustics aren't sympathetic. I been told a number of times that there's some fine rooms in this place, all set up especially nice for recording. Seems like a damn shame not to have it working.

[Curve Dominant]

How did such an interesting professional discussion suddenly turn into a juvinile catfight??

Oh, hi Henchie.

Anyhoo...

I thought Nika's comment was spot on. I'd like to add that what we're seeing is a natural evolutionary cycle. All the prosumer gear is doing, is filling demand which apparently wasn't able to be met by big studios (for better or worse).

People love to bitch about today's pop music, but where was that music produced?

But people love to bitch about home studios at the same time.

Can't have it both ways unfortunately.

[henchman]

ted nightshade wrote on Tue, 01 February 2005 18:55

henchman wrote on Tue, 01 February 2005 12:41 I'm just sick and tired of hearing Part-Time/Hobbyists making comments on an industry they've never actually worked in. They have no valid point of view whatsoever. Does the lay person have a point of view? The artist? The fan? I'm thinking so. .

As far as the music goes, yes. They do have a point of view.
But as far as working in professional studio's, no. They don't have a clue.
Most of these people haven't ever even used professional gear, yet they like to talk about why it's so outdated and they can do everything in their bedroom/garage/basement.

[henchman]

Eric Vincent wrote on Tue, 01 February 2005 20:12

How did such an interesting professional discussion suddenly turn into a juvinile catfight?? Oh, hi Henchie.

And which one of my statements do you consider a catfight?

And keep your little snide rem,arks to yourself please.

[Nika Aldrich]

henchman wrote on Tue, 01 February 2005 14:13

I'm sorry Eric, but you have no idea what you are talking about.

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I'm just sick and tired of hearing Part-Time/Hobbyists making comments on an industry they've never actually worked in. They have no valid point of view whatsoever.

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And keep your little snide rem,arks to yourself please.

[Curve Dominant]

It's useless, Nika, he'll never get it.

Anyway, the thread is titled "Cello Studios Closes down."

If Henchie wants to moan and groan about who is or isn't qualified to post on GM's board, he should start a new thread.

Personally, I judge people more by the quality of their work, than by how many TV rerun overdubbing hours they've clocked.

[Submissive Flats]

U da man Curve u undersand the superhype digititis better than albini or hench or any a dees posers. no one more qualifikated than u curve m-box forever! who needs acoostical spases when u got the finest anolog front end-tooobs.
Filly rules.

[Kindly forgive my rather gauche faux pax: I should have said "filly roools!"]

[henchman]

Eric Vincent wrote on Tue, 01 February 2005 21:23

It's useless, Nika, he'll never get it. Anyway, the thread is titled "Cello Studios Closes down." If Henchie wants to moan and groan about who is or isn't qualified to post on GM's board, he should start a new thread. Personally, I judge people more by the quality of their work, than by how many TV rerun overdubbing hours they've clocked.

I had no idea this was moved down here.
You want to judge people by their work, fine.
I don 't usually blow my own horn about what I'm doing or have done unlike some of us. But here you go.

I'll put my Platinum Record for Engineering the 4 Non Blondes Hitsingle "What's Up".
And my Award for Best sound for a dramatic series "The Collector" on the table.

What's the name of your platinum record?

BTW, you talk about being professional.

Starting out I was lucky to work with people like Santana, John Lee Hooker, Jimmy Vaughan, Sheila E even Celine Dion (Who, BTW, was very, very nice to everyone), Walter Affanasief.

Being a professional means making a living from your profession full-time. Which is what I do.
I make a full-timne living from being an Audio-Engineer. And from various facets of Audio-Engineering and music production.

Currently I am working with Simon Collins. Phil's son.
I've received very positive comments on what I've done with him  from Phil. Wich counts for more than your snide remarks regarding my work in post-production.
Which, BTW can be quite fun. I've met some pretty nice people. Britney Murphy, Jennifer Beals, Alan Cummings, Montell Williams.

I guess someone like Gary Rydstrom is a wanker in your books as well.

Back to you.

[henchman]

And one more thing, this taken form your website:

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Right...So, Why Pro Tools?? Quite simply: Pro Tools is by far the most advanced digital recording, editing and mixing platform that exists today.

No, It's not the most advanced. It's just your opinion.

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More importantly: Pro Tools affords producers and artists the advantage of "Cross-Platform Compatibility."

Again everything about this statement is just plain wrong.

Crossplatform means that you would be able to open a Pro-Tools sesion in other DAWS.
Whereas PT's is all about PREVENTING that.